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Your phone won't lag from lack of RAM. It will just reload apps more.
 
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I work as a developer. I many Apple products. I am what you would call a fanboy. I own a 13 inch mbpr. I own two 15 inch mbprs–one with a 750m and the other has a 650m. I own an iPhone 5s. I own an iPhone 6 and I own an iPhone 6+. See these pictures for some proof:
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I need these devices for development purposes. They are all running the latest builds. I have other phones running 8.2 beta, also.

I will confirm what other posters have said. THERE IS DEFINITELY LAG on the 6+. It is not atrocious, but I can make every single 6+ crash with a springboard reload. I can make your 6+ do this. I can make the 6+s in the the store on demo mode crash. I can make anyones crash while just browsing on certain sites in Safari. There is definitely a problem with the scalar. This does not happen on a 5, a 5s, or a 6. It only happens with a 6+.

Only 1 website crashes my 6 Plus to springboard for me on my 6 Plus and its so weird and i dont understand why it happens, otherwise Safari does work great though
 
This is the correct answer to this thread in a nutshell.

This is the incorrect answer in a nutshell.
Of course lack of memory will cause lag. Why do you think computers have memory? Why do you think specific computers/devices require more memory? Programs are loaded into memory. When there's not enough memory, you'll have to write to disk. Read/write from/to disk is significantly slower than read/write from/to memory. Same goes for the GPU (rendering onscreen vs offscreen, buffer allocation).
These are all example of page faults. Large numbers of page faults cause lag (processing lag, which can/will result in visual lag).
However, memory isn't the *only* reason lag can/will occur. Processing speed is the other obvious culprit.
 
This is the incorrect answer in a nutshell.
Of course lack of memory will cause lag. Why do you think computers have memory? Why do you think specific computers/devices require more memory? Programs are loaded into memory. When there's not enough memory, you'll have to write to disk. Read/write from/to disk is significantly slower than read/write from/to memory. Same goes for the GPU (rendering onscreen vs offscreen, buffer allocation).
You are confusing Mac OS with iOS. IOS knows no page in and page outs.

1. iOS does not swap to disk like Mac OS.
2. iOS apps do not require more RAM than the device they are compatible with
3. iOS does not allow real multitasking. That means Apps are not really kept in the RAM for that purpose like in Mac OS

Classic "lag" on an iPhone is almost never caused by memory deficiancy.
Under normal circumstances this would be close to impossible.
 
My 6 Plus is very laggy (definitely feels slower than my 2 year old iPhone 5, which also had 1GB RAM but iOS 6 didn't need as much of it) Safari constantly has to re-load pages and crashes many times per day. I have a widget that shows free RAM and it's almost always under 50MB. My iPhone 5 rarely showed less than 200MB free)
 
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I get some lag. Like in the recent apps menu sometimes, scrolling through notifications in the slide down menu or the today tab in the pull down menu, some third party apps (not sure that counts), Safari tabs...

I have other problems that are clearly the RAM that aren't lag related though. Namely the dreaded browser tabs.

I am using a 6+ by the way.
 
I wonder what percentage of the millions of users have lag. I have none that I can see, neither does my son and his wife. No issues with iOS upgrades either. This is the most fluid phone I have owned. Albeit, I did not own any previous iPhones to compare to the 6's. :)
 
Other than messages locking up where I have to kill it every now and then. I haven't had any issues I can think off with my plus.
 
Buttery buttery smooth iPhone 6 Plus here on iOS 8.1.2 with no frame lag or any lag
 
My 6 Plus is very laggy (definitely feels slower than my 2 year old iPhone 5, which also had 1GB RAM but iOS 6 didn't need as much of it) Safari constantly has to re-load pages and crashes many times per day. I have a widget that shows free RAM and it's almost always under 50MB. My iPhone 5 rarely showed less than 200MB free)

Are you being serious?
 
Highly doubt he is being serious

What I've come to realize is that people just don't know what lag is. They think something is buttery smooth because they don't have a frame of reference to what buttery smooth actually is, and, honestly, if I were you, I'd be glad. Once you see the lag, you can't unsee it. Every single 6+ crashes and lags. If you really want to see frame drops and stutters, I can tell you where they happen. Ars technica reported on the lag. It's a fact that there are UI stutters on the 6+ that don't exist on the 6 or any other phone.
 
Does anyone know what the "there as a problem loading this page" in safari is cause by?

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What I've come to realize is that people just don't know what lag is. They think something is buttery smooth because they don't have a frame of reference to what buttery smooth actually is, and, honestly, if I were you, I'd be glad. Once you see the lag, you can't unsee it. Every single 6+ crashes and lags. If you really want to see frame drops and stutters, I can tell you where they happen. Ars technica reported on the lag. It's a fact that there are UI stutters on the 6+ that don't exist on the 6 or any other phone.

You picked the wrong person to tell this to lol.
 
This is the incorrect answer in a nutshell.
Of course lack of memory will cause lag. Why do you think computers have memory? Why do you think specific computers/devices require more memory? Programs are loaded into memory. When there's not enough memory, you'll have to write to disk. Read/write from/to disk is significantly slower than read/write from/to memory. Same goes for the GPU (rendering onscreen vs offscreen, buffer allocation).
These are all example of page faults. Large numbers of page faults cause lag (processing lag, which can/will result in visual lag).
However, memory isn't the *only* reason lag can/will occur. Processing speed is the other obvious culprit.
Finally an answer which made most sense.
 
What I've come to realize is that people just don't know what lag is. They think something is buttery smooth because they don't have a frame of reference to what buttery smooth actually is, and, honestly, if I were you, I'd be glad. Once you see the lag, you can't unsee it. Every single 6+ crashes and lags. If you really want to see frame drops and stutters, I can tell you where they happen. Ars technica reported on the lag. It's a fact that there are UI stutters on the 6+ that don't exist on the 6 or any other phone.

Im technologically inclined and I understand what frame rate is, UI, etc, everything is. With that being said, my 6 Plus literally runs buttery smooth 60 fps basically all the time besides a few unoptimized apps i use that havent been updated yet(updated apps run very fluid with no jank)

Im on 8.1.2 with reduce transparency on and reduce motion. I know and can tell when i see lag and UI lag and frame rate lag and drop, I dont see that on my 6 Plus besides unoptimized apps sometimes

Weather app for me has like a 1 fps frame rate drop when i tap between the 2 cities listed in it for me, besides that it literally runs buttery smooth
 
I wonder what percentage of the millions of users have lag. I have none that I can see, neither does my son and his wife. No issues with iOS upgrades either. This is the most fluid phone I have owned. Albeit, I did not own any previous iPhones to compare to the 6's. :)

My sis uses iPhone 4 with iOS 7 on it. She says that she can't percieve any lag.

Can you beat that?

Some people are just not bothered by a slight drop in fps during normal day to day UI operations.

The main problem is less data in memory of iPhones due to just 1 GB and hence app and tab refreshes.
Another problem is Safari which seems to get worse every year.
Next year's Safari may even have In-app purchase of tabs. The purchased tabs will come with No Reload guarantee.
 
I'm only infuriated when people claim that Apple products are perfect. If anyone points out a fairly widespread problem it is aggressively denied. For sure some individuals have problems brought on by corrupted installs and dodgy apps, but some issues are much more widespread. There are some here that deny any problems exist, and that if they do then setting up as a new phone or getting a replacement is the answer.

1. I don't see any here saying Apple products are perfect, so stop trying to exaggerate to get your point across.

2. Widespread? As mentioned 45 million sold and 22 million lag? Or as you are trying to put forward, every one of them lags. If that was the case, the whiners would be far more widespread than this Apple hater forum.

3. The some here that deny problems exist is yet another error on your part. The fact is that responders are not seeing what you see.

4. The suggestion to get a replacement is sound. Your issue is widespread on your device, and despite this forum being anti Apple, I am not seeing a revelation of lag issues. As suggested, your device may be at fault.

Maybe you have an app or apps that are poorly written and it got through Apple vetting process and is affecting your device. You can easily test that, but on the other hand your repeated nagging is out of proportion to most others experiences, so if you located the issue, I suggest you would not pass that on, saving face.

Wipe the phone, try that without restoring, then take it back to get the faulty phone replaced

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Finally an answer which made most sense.

Agree. But is sunkings phone out of memory? His lag issue was ok on his 5 or 5S which doesnt have 2GB memory as he repeatedly wants. I out it down to either having a buggy app which is running, or having every possible CPU setting on and expecting the phone to never skip a beat. In any case it should affect every user as all our 6 Pluses are the same, that appears not to be the case

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I have noticed that apps in multitasking reload less on my iPad Air 2 but the 1 gig of ram on the 6 really is a nonissue

AS stated by a web and app dev on here in another thread. Blame the app or the webpage is his point.
 
iPhone 6 owner here and no problems with lag. I go get the occasional ,as and that's mostly keyboard or spotlight related. Safari Tabs do reload as well, but not as bad as they did before on earlier builds. Need Apple to fix that and other minor issues and then we're good to go!
 
My iPhone 5 that is over 2 years old can hold more tabs open in Safari (without reloading) than my 6 Plus. If that isn't patnetic, I don't know what is.
 
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