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Are you returning your Samsung chip iPhone for a TSMC?

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rockitdog said:
This guy.... someone please tell me he's joking... please. I need to know that he is not posting this and meaning it.
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Nah dude, TSMC totally rocks. Much higher quality than Samsung. I'd be upset if I had a Samsung. I get super long battery life and awesome performance.

Sounds like you might have a Samsung chip and you might be in denial about how serious this issue is.

/s
 
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btrach144 said:
Nah dude, TSMC totally rocks. Much higher quality than Samsung. I'd be upset if I had a Samsung. I get super long battery life and awesome performance.

Sounds like you might have a Samsung chip and you might be in denial about how serious this issue is.

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LOL, you're hilarious! Down fanboy, down! I don't even know how to tell what I have. My battery life is better than my 6 and that's all that matters!
 
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rockitdog said:
LOL, you're hilarious! Down fanboy, down! I don't even know how to tell what I have. My battery life is better than my 6 and that's all that matters!
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Download an app called Lirum Device info lite - system monitor. On the start page, you should see something like NXXXMAP or NXXXAP. MAP= TSMC and AP=Samsung.
 
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btrach144 said:
Download an app called Lirum Device info lite - system monitor. On the start page, you should see something like NXXXMAP or NXXXAP. MAP= TSMC and AP=Samsung.
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My co-worker is going to pick up a new iPhone. How can he know what he's buying? Is there a way to know at point of purchase? He's drinking the kool-aid.
 
mbaran said:
I think we've gotten off track. That is GeekBench. Let's disregard GeekBench as it seems to be an anomaly from every otehr benchmark that anyone else has done. It constantly has an output which does not match up with anything else.

Run those two phones on GFXBench, which was what I said in my post. GFXBench gives the lowest runtime out of any of the scripted benchmarking tools.

Lets see the difference between GFXBench on two devices, JUST like Ars did.
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Off track? Let's narrow down the arguments. On Geekbench only, a 51% delta is not thing?
OMG. If you insist on regular usage on normal day, which means you are on APPLE's side. Fine....
Go on and deny. You are just pretending. That doesn't help you or APPLE at all.
 
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Thanks again, GrumpyMom. No blame game from me. I am enjoying phone and do expect that if any specific issues Apple will address. That's why I spent on Apple Care + as I always do. Just admittedly all this consternation has taken a bit from the experience. But that is simply me. Overall I love my iPhone 6s. And I do believe it benefits from some of the comments made last year about Apple needing to up the Ram! Perhaps Apple is listening now to avert some of these concerns in the future.
 
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Off track? Let's narrow down the arguments. On Geekbench only, a 51% delta is not thing?
OMG. If you insist on regular usage on normal day, which means you are on APPLE's side. Fine....
Go on and deny. You are just pretending. That doesn't help you or APPLE at all.
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So you use your phone Geekbenching all day? The point being made is that Geekbench tests the phone in ways its not normally used. All other tests shown or normal tests showing the way the phone is actually used show minimal difference.
 
Lobwedgephil said:
So you use your phone Geekbenching all day? The point being made is that Geekbench tests the phone in ways its not normally used. All other tests shown or normal tests showing the way the phone is actually used show minimal difference.
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Normal uses or not, a more efficient chip is a more efficient chip. An extra minute of battery life or an extra 2 hours of battery life, given they both cost the same, I would pick a more efficient chip every time.
 
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GrumpyMom said:
If you're using your iPhone often as a gaming device you need to test your iPhone for that purpose as soon as you get it. My overall point to you is that you incur a lot of waste and further risk and aggravation if you dismiss your device the minute you find out it's not a TSMC iPhone.

So see my advice to the other member about testing your iPhone against your own usage standards. Think of the most demanding scenarios you're likely to realistically run into at some point in your ownership and see what kind of performance, battery life, heat dissipation issues you run into. Evaluate THAT. That's concrete, that's what's in front of you. If it's a good result that you can easily live with, keep it, especially if everything else about the device meets your standards. Be honest with yourself, don't sit there and think "Oh but if it had the TSMC chip in it, it would be even better."

Due to variances in the manufacturing processes there is no guarantee you won't still end up with a rather lame example of a TSMC chip. So even if you do find you got the TSMC chip, test the device anyway. Make sure it meets your needs. But be honest about it and don't set unreasonable expectations.

For example, it doesn't matter which chip you have, FB app will eat your battery for breakfast, lunch and dinner!
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look i understand what you're saying and everything and i appreciate you writing all this but i really can't get it out of my head that if i get the samsung model its worse than the tsmc. sorry, not trying to be awkward. the thing is when there's an upto 20% difference in heavy load that annoys me.

and i will test the tsmc chip iphone of course :) it would be kind of bad to go through all that effort (assuming i have to return them) and then to find out weeks later there's something else i don't like.
 
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Lobwedgephil said:
So you use your phone Geekbenching all day? The point being made is that Geekbench tests the phone in ways its not normally used. All other tests shown or normal tests showing the way the phone is actually used show minimal difference.
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Normal, normal, normal... because you are normal person, so you never think it in different way.

You forgot what apple used to say while Steve Job was there as CEO:

"THINK DIFFERENT!"
 
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tvbi said:
Normal uses or not, a more efficient chip is a more efficient chip. An extra minute of battery life or an extra 2 hours of battery life, given they both cost the same, I would pick a more efficient chip every time.
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Gotcha, and I understand. But what if they were all TSMC chips and had a 2-3% difference. Would you be upset if mine performed 2-3% better then yours. Just trying to understand, haven't seen any real world proof in either direction other then a bunch of simulated tests.
 
Lobwedgephil said:
Gotcha, and I understand. But what if they were all TSMC chips and had a 2-3% difference. Would you be upset if mine performed 2-3% better then yours. Just trying to understand, haven't seen any real world proof in either direction other then a bunch of simulated tests.
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I don't care if it's only 2-3% really, but a 2 hours difference is not small. It might not be real world but I think a CPU intensive test (benchmark) is the best test to show the difference between CPU.
 
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does anyone know whether it varies by where you are in the world? like is there any country that only has tsmc or only samsung? or more of one than the other? im in the UK.

edit: actually i think my question is a bit pointless seeing as no-one really has that data atm as far as im aware but idk how to delete posts so i guess its staying.
 
hammy434 said:
look i understand what you're saying and everything and i appreciate you writing all this but i really can't get it out of my head that if i get the samsung model its worse than the tsmc. sorry, not trying to be awkward. the thing is when there's an upto 20% difference in heavy load that annoys me.

and i will test the tsmc chip iphone of course :) it would be kind of bad to go through all that effort (assuming i have to return them) and then to find out weeks later there's something else i don't like.
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That's fine. You've been very patient with all of my lecturing and I do appreciate it. I do hope you get the TSMC on the first try if that is what you'll be comfortable with.

I've been upvoting all the posts that I happen to see where people announce happily they have the TSMC because I do want my fellow forum members to be happy with their purchases. Whether or not I agree or disagree on the chip gate issue is immaterial. At the end of the day it's your money and your decision.
 
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tvbi said:
Normal uses or not, a more efficient chip is a more efficient chip. An extra minute of battery life or an extra 2 hours of battery life, given they both cost the same, I would pick a more efficient chip every time.
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The problem is we don't know until we get them home and set them up. If we could just pick the chip we want from the get go, all my earlier posts about the risks of repeated returns just to get a certain chip would be moot.
 
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It just occurred to me. Apple will probably start phasing out the Samsung chips in future production runs once it gets back to them that some of us are referring to our IPhones as the "Samsung IPhones". :eek::D
 
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I've got a Samsung chip in mine and I'm not bothered at all. I'm amazed by the battery life my Plus gets, much better than my old 6.

My 6s Plus easily makes it through a heavy day, including regular web browsing, occasional gaming (3D graphics), variable LTE signal, multiple email accounts with push etc. I also seem to be getting normal usage stats compared to what I've seen from other Plus owners.

I'm very likely going to get AppleCare+ on this thing as well. I love it to bits and don't want to cover the gorgeous Rose Gold finish with a case (not to mention I don't want extra bulk on this already huge phone).
 
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