Are you returning your Samsung chip iPhone for a TSMC?
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Zombiecrowd
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Did you by any chance record the reaction of Apple Store employees? If so YouTube upload would be outstanding
LLL1424
macrumors 6502a
I have a TSMC A9 chip on my unlocked AT&T 128 gig iPhone 6s Plus. And if I had the Samsung chip, I personally wouldn't exchange it. And I'm sure what I'll state below has been said before but I'll put my version of the situation:
Reality is: most people on this forum are clueless to what the A9 architecture chip is and isn't and the difference in the TSMC/ Samsung version of the A9 chip. They just want to feel superior. These people IMO are looking for a defect that doesn't exist and has been made up in their head. Countless test shows that in the real world, there is no difference in the performance of either A9 chip. This geekbench app isn't flawless like any other app out their. BUT to their defense :
You can't change their minds and if they feel like their purchase isn't up to standards, they have the right to exchange it, unfortunately. Is it ignorant? Yes. They probably have no idea what 16-nanometer FinFET and 14-nanometer technique means.
Reality is: most people on this forum are clueless to what the A9 architecture chip is and isn't and the difference in the TSMC/ Samsung version of the A9 chip. They just want to feel superior. These people IMO are looking for a defect that doesn't exist and has been made up in their head. Countless test shows that in the real world, there is no difference in the performance of either A9 chip. This geekbench app isn't flawless like any other app out their. BUT to their defense :
You can't change their minds and if they feel like their purchase isn't up to standards, they have the right to exchange it, unfortunately. Is it ignorant? Yes. They probably have no idea what 16-nanometer FinFET and 14-nanometer technique means.
jamezr
macrumors P6
LOL....you're such a rebel
RetiredInFl
macrumors 68020
If everyone returned their Samsung chipper just because it was made by the "evil empire"" that would make more sense then what is going on now.
suijkerwerk
macrumors newbie
Come on guys! It's not ONLY because of the Ars Technica test! The fact that Apple is very strict about post-two-year warranty (the warranty period in The Netherlands/EU) malfunctions made me decide to not take this lightly.
Things like the loose screen I have on my iPhone 5S which won't be replaced by Apple because of that time period, makes me very, very picky.
And yes, I know this could be the case with a TSMC-chip also. But from what i've been reading, the Samsung IS getting significantly warmer. The so called battery problems are just a small part of my personal stance.
You know, I've bought this iPhone out of my own pocket. No operator involved. Don't get me wrong: I can afford that, but I do expect the best quality then. It's not I'm a spoiled brat who likes to send perfectly normal iPhones back to Apple. Not at all!
Things like the loose screen I have on my iPhone 5S which won't be replaced by Apple because of that time period, makes me very, very picky.
And yes, I know this could be the case with a TSMC-chip also. But from what i've been reading, the Samsung IS getting significantly warmer. The so called battery problems are just a small part of my personal stance.
You know, I've bought this iPhone out of my own pocket. No operator involved. Don't get me wrong: I can afford that, but I do expect the best quality then. It's not I'm a spoiled brat who likes to send perfectly normal iPhones back to Apple. Not at all!
You can believe what you like from the hysteria here; the fact is I have an actual Samsung chipped phone here which I'd be quite happy to exchange if there was anything actually wrong with it (I've exchanged many iPhones for minor faults in the past), it does NOT get significantly warm, it has been perfectly reliable and very fast since launch day, and my battery life is excellent. Did I get the one miraculously well made Samsung chip that rolled off the line, or is this whole thing massively over baked? You decide. Either way I'm 100% happy with my phone.
I find it really funny that part of this fuss seems to stem from people's distaste at the idea that there is a Samsung product in their iPhone. I've had iPhones for 7 years now and there's been a Samsung chip driving all of them - from the 3G and 3GS, to 4S, 5 and now 6S - all Samsung! In the first two cases, Samsung even designed those chips from the ground up! So excuse me if I'm not horrified right now..
phillytim
macrumors 68000
The Samsung generally DOES NOT get significantly warmer than the TSMC; you may have come across someone posting that their Samsung-chipped 6s is warm, but either they were running extreme things that made it that way, or there genuinely was a warranted defect.
You can find a problem someone posted for with any given product that has ever been released, either because of a warranted defect or people creating problems with their own actions or OCD.
And because there is a report of a problem on the Internet, it DOES NOT make it true for you.
It is IMPOSSIBLE to expect that Samsung-chipped 6s would pose a problem in of itself after the 2 years are up. I've had Samsung-chipped iPhones throughout the years, and they've never posed a problem by the time came to upgrade.
Stop rationalizing what you are doing, your pathetic actions.
Because this game you (and others) are playing will end up costing us all in the long run, when Apple is compelled to charge restock fees to deter this game you are playing.
And believe me...we will remember the names of the likes of you, when that time comes.
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digitalcuriosity
macrumors 6502a
If nothing else this thread has been funny to read.
hammy434
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The heat issue doesn't really bother me at all, it's not like it's burning hot or throttling. As for battery, although geekbench shows a significant difference, no other benchmark has been able to replicate that and no real world test has been able to replicate that either - the other benchmarks and real world tests show only minor differences. I used to really want the tsmc too but after thinking about this a lot and looking at all the evidence, it doesn't really matter to be honest. But I understand your opinion, and this issue really shouldn't have happened, but it's not that bad to be honest.
I understand what you're saying, and I don't take it lightly. I have a 64GB 6s with the Samsung chip, and I was initially concerned after reading the front page report on MacRumors. However, tests posted by reputable sites such as Tom's Hardware and Consumer Reports, as well as my own usage over the past ten days, have put those concerns to rest.
And consider this: if there were really a problem with the Samsung chips, considering how many 6s and 6s Plus phones have them, there would be such a backlash that Apple would have trouble overcoming it. iPhones are popular because they work and are basically trouble free. I used my 4S for four years without an issue. I know plenty of people still using older models, from the 4 to the 5s, and none have had any problems with their phones.
I just really don't think there is an issue with the Samsung chips. If I did, I would return it. My 6s does not get warm and the battery is very good.
mcdj
macrumors G3
samsung chip
I'm so sorry for your pain.
glad you understandI'm so sorry for your pain.
Snide
macrumors 6502a
To those who say there is no way of knowing what chip the phone has without opening the package:
A friend bought an unlocked phone at Walmart, and discovered it was actually carrier locked. In the meantime, he became aware of the discussions about the two different chips. He mentioned his concerns to the Apple CSR, who himself actually used the term "Chipgate" (that's astonishing, as the Apple CSR's usually play dumb even when it's a well-documented issue). He specifically asked if his replacement phone could have the TSMC chip and was told it would. Of course he will verify once he receives it, but that seems promising.
It makes sense that the serial number on the box would reveal which chip it has.
A friend bought an unlocked phone at Walmart, and discovered it was actually carrier locked. In the meantime, he became aware of the discussions about the two different chips. He mentioned his concerns to the Apple CSR, who himself actually used the term "Chipgate" (that's astonishing, as the Apple CSR's usually play dumb even when it's a well-documented issue). He specifically asked if his replacement phone could have the TSMC chip and was told it would. Of course he will verify once he receives it, but that seems promising.
It makes sense that the serial number on the box would reveal which chip it has.
I think it's pure nonsense!
I'm on my 3rd 6S Plus (had to return the 1st one due to failed Apple Upgrade Program, the 2nd one had a blotchy screen, as well as a yellow stain). All 3 were manufactured by the same factory (C3) on the very same week (37). The first one had the Sammy chip, the other two had the TSMC one. So there is no correlation, it's all so random!
cableguy84
macrumors 68000
Last day for me to be able to return. My experience is that for normal use the battery life is much better than last year's plus. But for heavy use my device gets really got and battery drain quick. Only reason for me to change is that I feel that i will manage with 64GB (128 is overkill for me), less heat and to perhaps get better battery life with TSMC chip.
But I don't know if it's worth the risk. Current device got perfect display and build quality (stellar volume rocker etc). So my question is basically, is it worth it to try to get an TSMC device?
But I don't know if it's worth the risk. Current device got perfect display and build quality (stellar volume rocker etc). So my question is basically, is it worth it to try to get an TSMC device?
ChinaRye
macrumors 6502
I had a TSMC 6s Plus, but exchanged it because it had some issues. I now have a Samsung chip. I don't notice any difference in performance between the two. I seem to have better battery life with the Samsung and it seems a bit "snappier". This is of course anecdotal, but I see no compelling reason for me to return this phone with the hopes of getting a TSMC. This phone is perfect and runs cool, contrary to some reports of the Samsung chip.
If you are getting great battery life and the phone seems perfect to you, I don't see any compelling reason to return. I think most of the "chipgate" nonsense it driven my neurotic individuals on this forum. By next month, this will all be forgotten.
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