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I see a lot of uninformed buyers; especially people buying used gadgets. My husband is about to buy a new iPhone and haven't even heard of chip gate. I really think most people besides tech geeks and mac rumors don't know about this.

I agree for all iphone buyers, at least 90% people don't know about chipgate, only people go to iphone, tech forums or read tech reviews would know or heard about it. With Apple super marketing, almost all western tech review somehow "confirms" what Apple claims, for most people even read tech reviews, go to tech forum would think it is not big deal in any situation (the truth is heavy user of 6s+ samsung chip would have serious impact, read my post). So only few may be not even 1% would know there is real different, that's why also why Apple braves enough to have two chips with that much different for battery to earn much more money, because they know it wouldn't hurt them.
 
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Media needs sensational news every minute whether news is worth talking about or not.. And writing anything about Apple is a sure shot way of catching eyeballs.
Dude .. It doesn't matter whether people are aware of this issue or not.. First of all chip gate is not an issue.. And for few, even if it's an issue its not as big as the last year bendgate.. Thirdly, how does it matter while selling your phone ? Did you get a chance to check the chip of your phone before making your preference ?

Read this:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ower-in-high-demand-real-world-usage.1931880/

It is a big different.
 
So had to change out the phone a couple days ago.. Bluetooth stopped working
Anyway got the tsmc chip this time. 2 non official testing days of my average 8 plus hours a day useage. Battery seems to wind up the way the Sammy chip did. Around 10 at night I hit 20%.
Just my non official 2 days of using report
 
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I actually feel like my Samsung had a better battery than the TSMC I have now. I wish people had been able to hear me on that one, it had a perfect screen and crazy good battery :(
 
I actually feel like my Samsung had a better battery than the TSMC I have now. I wish people had been able to hear me on that one, it had a perfect screen and crazy good battery :(

You are using two 6s+ at the same time?
 
I actually feel like my Samsung had a better battery than the TSMC I have now. I wish people had been able to hear me on that one, it had a perfect screen and crazy good battery :(

It's probably the version of iOS you're on.
9.0 and 9.0.1 returned much better battery life than 9.0.2 and 9.1 (*in my experience).
 
I actually feel like my Samsung had a better battery than the TSMC I have now. I wish people had been able to hear me on that one, it had a perfect screen and crazy good battery :(


That's too bad...

I still have my Samsung CPU...with a perfect screen and great battery life...on 9.1.
 
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I actually feel like my Samsung had a better battery than the TSMC I have now. I wish people had been able to hear me on that one, it had a perfect screen and crazy good battery :(

What happened to the other one?
 
In my opinion the variation in displays seems more of an issue than the chip. I've seen more posts of people complaining or returning their phone over dark patches, dead pixels, yellow screens etc.
 
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Your thread got sent to the wasteland for a reason. Why keep trying to resurrect it?

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If you believe every decision of this forum admin is correct, why not ask him to lead your life? You consider the testing review in the post is fake or what?
 
Your thread got sent to the wasteland for a reason. Why keep trying to resurrect it?

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I believe the post is in wasteland only because there are too much argue in the post, but that doesn't mean the video review and my analysis in the post are wrong.
 
Nope, people couldn't hear me during calls on that phone, I would have gladly kept that phone. Which is what I said in my post, not sure why you'd assume...

Sorry, I didn't read back far enough. You seemed to be saying it was a perfect phone but obviously it wasn't.
 
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Other than that it was perfect, which is why it sucks lol I don't really care about the chips to be honest
 
Nope, people couldn't hear me during calls on that phone, I would have gladly kept that phone.
Oh that's a shame. I've got a good all around performer. That's why I am keeping it despite having a Samsung chip, which serves me just fine and despite having very faint wavy shadows at the top of my screen and very slight darkening of the display toward the left edge. We are talking shadowing that is extremely faint and disappears if brightness is turned up a notch past the halfway point.

I was always being such a nagging mother hen to people who wanted to return just on the basis of the maker of their chip because they weren't considering ALL of the factors that add up to making a particular phone enjoyable or a dud. What good is the TSMC chip and ridiculously good battery life if you have other noticeable defects or problems?
 
I believe the post is in wasteland only because there are too much argue in the post, but that doesn't mean the video review and my analysis in the post are wrong.

No, you're just starting the same arguments in here as you had in your thread. So this thread is headed to the wasteland too. You had no "analysis". You had guesswork, conjecture, and opinions. The "review" was unscientific and non-reproducible, making it an invalid test.

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So, I actually had the opportunity to test both chips side by side and felt like I should share my results for whatever you all feel they are worth. I'd first like to start off by thanking the MacRumors community for making me crazy enough about this issue to actually take the time to do these tests.

What happened was this: I bought 2 sim-free 64 GB 6S+ for me and my girlfriend. I was upgrading from my 6+ and knew I wanted to stick with the bigger size. My girlfriend had the regular 6 but wanted to give the bigger phone a try since I liked mine so much. I ran System Status on my 6S+ and found I had the Samsung A9 chip. I figured oh-well, hers probably had the same chip since both phones came from the same factory and were manufactured the same week according to the serial number. So, I never bothered to test hers and went on with my life. I was getting around 10 hours usage, which wasn't quite as good as my 6+, but still fine for my needs. Fast forward eight days later and she decided the Plus was simply too big and that she wanted to stick with the 6. Before erasing her phone for return, I decided on a whim to check which chip it had. To my surprise, it was a TSMC. So, I decided to do some tests to see if there was a real difference between the two chips in everyday use.

For these tests, both phones were restored as new running iOS 9.0.2. Since I only had one SIM, I put both phones in airplane mode to keep the radio usage from skewing the tests. Each test started with both phones recharged fully to 100%. Here's what I did:
  • Ran a GPS test by using google maps for 30 minutes. Both phones drained 8% battery.
  • Recorded 4K video on both phones for 30 minutes. The TSMC chip drained 9% while the Samsung drained 10%. I would consider these to be essentially the same given the inaccuracy of the iPhone's battery meter.
  • Recorded a time lapse on both phones because I read that this taxed the CPU more than recording video for some reason. I let both time lapses run for 1 hour 20 minutes. Here, I found the TSMC chip was down to 75% while the Samsung was all the way down at 70%. Extrapolating that out, the Samsung chip would have lasted 4 hours 26 minutes while the TSMC would have made it 5 hours 20 minutes, almost a full hour more.
  • Finally, I used the TSMC phone as my main phone for the remaining 6 days of the return period. I loaded all the same apps and used it the same way (as much as possible). I averaged 11-12 hours of use compared to the Samsung's 10. I wouldn't say the difference was huge, but it was noticeable. It's entirely possible this difference could also have been due to other components since it was so small.
So, basically my tests showed what has already been reported. Under very high loads, the TSMC is more power efficient than the Samsung. However, you really have to run it in the highest power state almost constantly to really notice a difference. I am not at all ready to say the extra hour or so of battery life I was getting in day-to-day usage on the TSMC phone was due to the chip alone. I ended up returning the Samsung because I had the option to keep the TSMC. But, I don't think the difference is so great that I would have been devastated had I been forced to keep the Samsung phone. And I certainly don't think it's worth running out and playing the exchange game just to get the TSMC chip.

Those are my results. You can believe them or not. But I felt they were worth sharing since few people outside of the tech blogger world actually have the chance to test both chips at the same time. Hope at least someone finds this information useful!
 
I don't read this forum because I am picky but because it's the largest iPhone community on the net and I like to get REAL information. I have an iPhone because 95% of my family (my kids, my grandkids and even my 90+ yr old parents) have one and not because I am picky. I have no allegiance to Apple nor do I care which device I own.

Your response has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that 99.999% of all iPhone users don't give a hoot about this SPECIFIC non-issue which is the topic of this thread. Picky is one thing but "way too much ado about absolutely nothing" is another. I read this forum reluctantly trying to separate 99% of the whining preteens from the real information much of it thankfully provided on the "front page." This time of the year, every year, this place becomes filled with meaningless drivel and posts repeated over and over 100 times. There is a lot of REAL information to be found on MacRumors but around this time of the year, every year, it's more like a Middle School lunch room. These forums are usually a great source of help and information but for 2-3 months each year it becomes pretty much useless because the noise level is so high the "real" information (save for the "front page") is pretty much gone.

I only "read this forum" because after reading the news on the front page I like regress back to my middle school days and have a good chuckle over all the ridiculous complaints & multitude of meaningless threads for some light hearted entertainment. I've been around here for many years and every year it's always the same. The only good part is I know it will get better in a month or two but then next October is always just around the corner.

 
No, you're just starting the same arguments in here as you had in your thread. So this thread is headed to the wasteland too. You had no "analysis". You had guesswork, conjecture, and opinions. The "review" was unscientific and non-reproducible, making it an invalid test.

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It is the most scientific test with 105 phones and as I said a good script or remote control can make it the most fair, comparing to all other reviews which just used 1 phone vs 1 phone, it is much more statically significant and close to perfect test. All my analysis are supported by data and are very solid. If admin considered the review and my analysis are bad, would not wait until the post goes 11 pages, over 10,000 views then closed it. It was just too much argue at the end which was not my fault, too many apple addicts came to my post argued for no reason just because they love Apple with subjective love.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ower-in-high-demand-real-world-usage.1931880/
 
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So, I actually had the opportunity to test both chips side by side and felt like I should share my results for whatever you all feel they are worth. I'd first like to start off by thanking the MacRumors community for making me crazy enough about this issue to actually take the time to do these tests.

What happened was this: I bought 2 sim-free 64 GB 6S+ for me and my girlfriend. I was upgrading from my 6+ and knew I wanted to stick with the bigger size. My girlfriend had the regular 6 but wanted to give the bigger phone a try since I liked mine so much. I ran System Status on my 6S+ and found I had the Samsung A9 chip. I figured oh-well, hers probably had the same chip since both phones came from the same factory and were manufactured the same week according to the serial number. So, I never bothered to test hers and went on with my life. I was getting around 10 hours usage, which wasn't quite as good as my 6+, but still fine for my needs. Fast forward eight days later and she decided the Plus was simply too big and that she wanted to stick with the 6. Before erasing her phone for return, I decided on a whim to check which chip it had. To my surprise, it was a TSMC. So, I decided to do some tests to see if there was a real difference between the two chips in everyday use.

For these tests, both phones were restored as new running iOS 9.0.2. Since I only had one SIM, I put both phones in airplane mode to keep the radio usage from skewing the tests. Each test started with both phones recharged fully to 100%. Here's what I did:
  • Ran a GPS test by using google maps for 30 minutes. Both phones drained 8% battery.
  • Recorded 4K video on both phones for 30 minutes. The TSMC chip drained 9% while the Samsung drained 10%. I would consider these to be essentially the same given the inaccuracy of the iPhone's battery meter.
  • Recorded a time lapse on both phones because I read that this taxed the CPU more than recording video for some reason. I let both time lapses run for 1 hour 20 minutes. Here, I found the TSMC chip was down to 75% while the Samsung was all the way down at 70%. Extrapolating that out, the Samsung chip would have lasted 4 hours 26 minutes while the TSMC would have made it 5 hours 20 minutes, almost a full hour more.
  • Finally, I used the TSMC phone as my main phone for the remaining 6 days of the return period. I loaded all the same apps and used it the same way (as much as possible). I averaged 11-12 hours of use compared to the Samsung's 10. I wouldn't say the difference was huge, but it was noticeable. It's entirely possible this difference could also have been due to other components since it was so small.
So, basically my tests showed what has already been reported. Under very high loads, the TSMC is more power efficient than the Samsung. However, you really have to run it in the highest power state almost constantly to really notice a difference. I am not at all ready to say the extra hour or so of battery life I was getting in day-to-day usage on the TSMC phone was due to the chip alone. I ended up returning the Samsung because I had the option to keep the TSMC. But, I don't think the difference is so great that I would have been devastated had I been forced to keep the Samsung phone. And I certainly don't think it's worth running out and playing the exchange game just to get the TSMC chip.

Those are my results. You can believe them or not. But I felt they were worth sharing since few people outside of the tech blogger world actually have the chance to test both chips at the same time. Hope at least someone finds this information useful!

Your normal usage different is 10 hours comparing to 11-12 hours different, that is exactly around what my analysis shows average 11.2% different:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ower-in-high-demand-real-world-usage.1931880/
 
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