I guess they just lookI own both. The keyboards are identical aside from the black paint. You might have a defective unit.
Different. I own both as well. I still think the pro keyboard is better - perhaps because it’s not flat?
I guess they just lookI own both. The keyboards are identical aside from the black paint. You might have a defective unit.
I guess they just lookI own both. The keyboards are identical aside from the black paint. You might have a defective unit.
you don't know until you try it... hahah 😅Why the f not lol
I think you are reading a bit too much into a poll that is clearly not representative of all of those who have purchased the laptop. It does not tell us anything about overall buyer satisfaction. It just provides a little fun for discussion.Hmmm, it’s a poll so it lies? 😂😂
I think that’s an understatement -30% of apple-sheep worshipers (me included) deciding to return it is alarmingI think you are reading a bit too much into a poll that is clearly not representative of all of those who have purchased the laptop. It does not tell us anything about overall buyer satisfaction. It just provides a little fun for discussion.
Oh ok great so no one’s advise here should be take. 😂😂😂😂😂I think you are reading a bit too much into a poll that is clearly not representative of all of those who have purchased the laptop. It does not tell us anything about overall buyer satisfaction. It just provides a little fun for discussion.
I think that’s an understatement -30% of apple-sheep worshipers (me included) deciding to return it is alarming
The base model is a disappointment plain & simple. Apple could have come up with a better solution if it wanted. Throttling isn't the issue in such a device, however the single nand SSD is very much a limitation to those that multitask. A 50% reduction in SSD R/W is significant to say the least and a factor that needs to be considered.I think that’s an understatement -30% of apple-sheep worshipers (me included) deciding to return it is alarming
Yes and no, I'd like the new M2 Air but needing to double the storage & SSD to get a solid performance, no sale. I'll stick with my base M1 13" MBP. Apple can do as it pleases, equally not interested in the new Air until the prices make sense...Based on reading this thread, it appears most buyers of the new Air are those who already have a MacBook Pro.
I think your feeling about it being shallow is right, I remember seeing it mentioned in one of the reviews too that MBA M2 has shorter key travel (I think it was maybe Max Tech some video with 9 or 10 issues with MBA M2 or similar, I can't remember exactly).well having both I can tell you they look completely different and feel completely different. The air m2 feels firm and shallow and the kids feel a bit larger and closer on the MBP M1 14, and squishier. its defiantly not the same..
yes that's why I get frustrated when everyone says the keyboard 'are the same' they are NOT the same, they feel totally different to me... the MBA M2 feels just like the 12" MB ... the MBP 14 feels much better for travel IMO! Not even close..I think your feeling about it being shallow is right, I remember seeing it mentioned in one of the reviews too that MBA M2 has shorter key travel (I think it was maybe Max Tech some video with 9 or 10 issues with MBA M2 or similar, I can't remember exactly).
Anyway, I'll get MBP 14", I considered MBA M2 for a long time as my next machine but it just feels much worse and overpriced with 16/512 against MBP 14". I think MBA M1 is better choice for the ones who need light and small machine. I had one, it was just so much more solid machine IMHO.
Look at the past, it usually takes them a few years to get the price back down. For the 2008 MacBook Air, it wasn’t until the redesigned Air in 2010 (3 years).Yes and no, I'd like the new M2 Air but needing to double the storage & SSD to get a solid performance, no sale. I'll stick with my base M1 13" MBP. Apple can do as it pleases, equally not interested in the new Air until the prices make sense...
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I agree and will take time, but the base model SSD issue is far from good being a big differnce to the M1's...Look at the past, it usually takes them a few years to get the price back down. For the 2008 MacBook Air, it wasn’t until the redesigned Air in 2010 (3 years).
The introduction of 2015 Retina MacBook is another example, the MacBook Air didn’t end up getting retina until 2018.
So, you are looking at 2024 or 2025 before Apple makes it more affordable again. They will likely keep the price and maybe bring processor down to the older chassis to keep cost down.
They are the same.yes that's why I get frustrated when everyone says the keyboard 'are the same' they are NOT the same, they feel totally different to me... the MBA M2 feels just like the 12" MB ... the MBP 14 feels much better for travel IMO! Not even close..
yes we know you keep saying this........ but real world tells us differentlyThey are the same.
equally not interested in the new Air until the prices make sense...
I think it was on the Ifixit forum someone had said the M2 MBA keyboard is the same part as the 14 MBP. Of course, they could have tweaked it nonetheless.yes that's why I get frustrated when everyone says the keyboard 'are the same' they are NOT the same, they feel totally different to me... the MBA M2 feels just like the 12" MB ... the MBP 14 feels much better for travel IMO! Not even close..
the MBA M2 feels just like the 12" MB
maybe because I have these and used to them? (the 12")..I think it was on the Ifixit forum someone had said the M2 MBA keyboard is the same part as the 14 MBP. Of course, they could have tweaked it nonetheless.
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That ^^ is the biggest piece of nonsense I have heard so far![]()
I have both the M2 Air and M1P MBP in front of me right now, and the Air's key travel is noticeably shallower. They might have the same design but they are definitely tweaked differently.maybe because I have these and used to them? (the 12")..
So do I, there is absolutely no comparison between the M2 MBA keyboard and the truly awful 12" MB that they then carried to other devices. Loved the 12" MB other than the keyboard.maybe because I have these and used to them? (the 12")..
I just received my M2 Air and I also have the 12" MacBook here. The keyboard is a difference like night and day. I mean just look at the keys – the MacBook Air has at least double the travel of the MacBook. To say it feels the same requires a really strong reality distortion field.maybe because I have these and used to them? (the 12")..