Article: Apple will release iOS 8 beta 5 on August 4th


madsci954

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Aug 4th would be the day I would guess. But last beta before GM? Total bull. It won't launch until mid to late September, no way they will spend a month and a half going from beta 5 to GM.
 

Fenderf4i

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iOS Beta 5 was released on Aug 6 last year, so it's entirely plausible that the same thing can happen this year. Remember that Beta 6 was just a hot fix, so Beta 5 was it until GM.
 

Cougarcat

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Aug 4th would be the day I would guess. But last beta before GM? Total bull. It won't launch until mid to late September, no way they will spend a month and a half going from beta 5 to GM.
If it launches a bit earlier in September, it's totally reasonable. For iOS 7 it was about a month between the last beta and the release.

Edit: Missed the above point that b6 was a hot fix. So yes, this would be the same schedule as last year.
 

clevins

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No way. B4 isn't close to ready - on an iPhone 5 I had several update issues and it's still crash-y here and there. There are also a fair amount of little things (unable to type in some places, etc). Unless there are a LOT of fixes in b5 there's no way it's the GM seed.
 

Mlrollin91

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If we get Beta 5 on Aug. 4, we could see Beta 6 on Aug 20/27. Then it would be about 2 weeks until GM is released on the day that the iPhone 6 is announced and 7-10 days later we will see public release.
 

mrsketch

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No way. B4 isn't close to ready - on an iPhone 5 I had several update issues and it's still crash-y here and there. There are also a fair amount of little things (unable to type in some places, etc). Unless there are a LOT of fixes in b5 there's no way it's the GM seed.
The article doesn't imply that beta 5 will be the GM build. It means that beta 5 would be the last beta release until the GM.

Last year it looked like this:

iOS 7.0 beta 6 (11A4449d) 8/15/2013

iOS 7.0 Gold Master (11A465) 9/10/2013

From what I know about build numbers, the GM was at least 16 builds newer than beta 6
 

clevins

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The article doesn't imply that beta 5 will be the GM build. It means that beta 5 would be the last beta release until the GM.

Last year it looked like this:

iOS 7.0 beta 6 (11A4449d) 8/15/2013

iOS 7.0 Gold Master (11A465) 9/10/2013

From what I know about build numbers, the GM was at least 16 builds newer than beta 6
Ah, that's much different.
 

cariacou

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iOS Beta 5 was released on Aug 6 last year, so it's entirely plausible that the same thing can happen this year. Remember that Beta 6 was just a hot fix, so Beta 5 was it until GM.
the ios8 betas seem to be at a much earlier stage than the ios7 betas.

If you want a reason, I would say that ios7 was a reskin, and that ios8 brings much deeper integration with an external OS (macOSX.10), but that's just me and my 2cents.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see 3 more betas before a GM.

There's no pattern to find here (like first 3 betas 1week apart, next betas 2weeks...).
The only pattern that we know is mid-september GM release.

before that, Apple needs to do everything possible for GM to be stable. whether that requires 16 public betas or just 5.
 

matthew2926

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Please use the up-vote button. According to the forum rules these types of posts are "routinely removed" and then we'll never know you approved. :)
The mobile site needs a vote up button. How do you expect people browsing from and iPhone (such as myself) to vote up posts?
 

Fenderf4i

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It doesn't need to feel "done" to us. The last betas for ios 5, 6, and 7 were all more than 30 days apart from the GM, so this would not be out of the ordinary. They use that time to fix the little things that are not important for developers to make their apps, and make it feel "done" for the GM/main release. Again, it seems people forget what's consistently happened in the past.
 

Merkie

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Beta's are for developers to test new functionality of iOS 8. It does not have to be stable. It's perfectly possible that 90% of all the effort that goes into stabilizing is iOS happens after the last beta.