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Just because Apple releases a new Mini doesn't mean you need to upgrade, especially if you feel it is overpriced.

Did your Mini 1 stop working all of a sudden?
 
Im most likely going to be sticking with the mini because honestly typing kn the air makes my hands get sore from typing on it. So im now trying to type on it with the split keyboard and see how it goes.

My biggest concerns with the mini is the 66% gamut and the retention that i have on mine and whether it can get worse over time.
 
Im most likely going to be sticking with the mini because honestly typing kn the air makes my hands get sore from typing on it. So im now trying to type on it with the split keyboard and see how it goes.

My biggest concerns with the mini is the 66% gamut and the retention that i have on mine and whether it can get worse over time.

Instead of simply returning, you are keeping a product you are "absolutely disgusted with".
 
Im most likely going to be sticking with the mini because honestly typing kn the air makes my hands get sore from typing on it. So im now trying to type on it with the split keyboard and see how it goes.

My biggest concerns with the mini is the 66% gamut and the retention that i have on mine and whether it can get worse over time.

Ah yes, the dreaded gamut. I wonder how many iPads are being returned where the conversation goes something like "yes, there's something wrong with it. I heard it doesn't have all the gamut. I don't know, but I know it's gamut is bad and I need a new one. Please replace it with one that's not missing some of the gamut." :)
 
Cnet rated the rmini screen as one of the worst for the 7-8" tabs.

Actually from CNET:

"The bottom line: The new iPad Mini somehow shrinks down the iPad Air into an even more compact package, sacrificing nearly nothing. It's more expensive than before, but it's also the perfect smaller tablet.":rolleyes:
 
Im most likely going to be sticking with the mini because honestly typing kn the air makes my hands get sore from typing on it. So im now trying to type on it with the split keyboard and see how it goes.

My biggest concerns with the mini is the 66% gamut and the retention that i have on mine and whether it can get worse over time.

Why on earth would you buy something you are disgusted with? I mean, do you just have to throw money at Apple? It seems like you have 66% of common sense to go with the 66% gamut.
 
It just isn't right that all you 1% ers are able to have so much expendable income that you can buy all these toys. I'm waiting for Obama to take it from you so I can get mine for free. #tongue'n'cheek
 
My question is who is forcing the OP to buy this device? Seems like a lot of whining for nothing. So what the OP is saying is that they bought the device without even checking it out. Doesn't notice any text improvement. You could have figured that out by going into the store with your old mini and compared the two. You could have read up on all the issues on this forum before buying. But let me guess, you just had to be one of the firsts to get one. And please, you actually think it was criminal that they charge $420 for it? Drama queen.
 
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Instead of simply returning, you are keeping a product you are "absolutely disgusted with".
Utterly, utterly baffling isn't it?

Who feels this strongly about being subject to "criminal" behaviour, but pays the (entirely discretionary) sum that they are so upset about and then fails to take advantage of the opportunity to return and get a refund?

I genuinely find it bizarre.
 
Sometimes you need to take things home for a day or two to try out. I was in the store and the sales ppl said take both home and try out. Its not unheard of. What am i going do, stand in the store for hours while i test them?

I found a buyer for my mini for $250 so im going to take it. I said already that i need a sharper screen after seeing the nexus 7. Im not getting nexus 7 cause i prefer 4:3.

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Ah yes, the dreaded gamut. I wonder how many iPads are being returned where the conversation goes something like "yes, there's something wrong with it. I heard it doesn't have all the gamut. I don't know, but I know it's gamut is bad and I need a new one. Please replace it with one that's not missing some of the gamut." :)

My biggest concern is that screen retention worsens over time. Ive never had this before so like i said, i dont know if it does or not.

Anyone else here have retention on theirs?
 
Here's a novel idea. Keep your current Mini. Don't upgrade. You don't like the price. You don't see the benefits. So skip this year. What's the problem?

Agreed. Just because Apple has released a new iPad doesn't mean you have to buy it.

I wont support this business practice as I believe its very greedy and criminal.

Perhaps you can point out specific laws that Apple has broken?:rolleyes:
 
Holy hell. All that text to complain about $70? The new mini is top of the line last year it was outdated the day it dropped. $70 increase is nothing.
 
I love my mini...and the thing that amazes me is how quick it is. I knew the screen was a big plus but the speed has really made this an even better experience.
 
Ive been Apples biggest fan of the original mini mainly cause I truly do believe its the perfect size and the most portable tablet today. Ive been looking forward to the rminis release for some time now, primarily for the retina, only to be in shock when I found out that Apple isnt sliding this into the original minis pricing, but $90CDN more! GREEDY!

I paid $330CDN for my mini the week it came in 2012. Best Buy here is giving gift cards for your ipads and for my 16GB mini, they offered me $210CDN, which I think is more than fair. But no, having to pay an extra $90 on top of the $330 for a new one, that is just wrong. So essentially it would cost me $230 with tax to upgrade to the rmini.

Now you tell me what is wrong with this pricing. $330CDN vs $420CDN for the 1st and 2nd gen minis in Canada is a complete joke. Thats 21% more for one gen upgrade?

Now factor in that this week, the 16GB Air was $20 off, making it $499, which made it only $80 more than the 16GB rmini. I compared the two and for $80 more, the Air was a much better value and showed just how overpriced the rmini is. Really its a no brainer. Only $80 to go from the rmini to the Air I think is a steal.

If Apple wants to jack up the price, the very least they could have done was upgrade the ram to 2GB, then i would see the value. I wont support this business practice as I believe its very greedy and criminal. But Apple doesnt care because people will still buy it, so you know whats going to happen next time? Apple will make this a permanent trend.

I would make a one time exception if the new screen blew me away, but unfortunately it didnt. When I first saw the rmini, it was a complete dissapointment on so many levels. I was expecting to be wowed like I was with the 3rd gen over the 2nd gen ipad.

Aside from the infamous yellowing and screen retention (what is this a plasma?), the improvement is very minimul to describe it generously. Screen retention? Gammut problems? Seriously Apple, is this 2001? I put my mini and rmini side by side viewing the exact same text content, and honestly...the only times where you can notice the rminis extra clarity is in portrait mode with super tiny text. View in landscape and its not nearly as apparent. I have very good vision, not 20/20 but very very close to it.

I did the retention checkerboard test on my rmini and what do you know, I have retention. It takes a good 2 minutes for it to go away with testing done with 35% brighness.

Icons, menu fonts and text are a tiny bit crisper by the eye on the rmini, but cmon....$230 for this? $100 i would pay yes, $150 maybe, but $230 is a straight out fleecing. This screen just doesnt wow me like the normal size ipad did when it had retina put in. If you are going to jack up the price, at the very least dont cheap out on the parts. Why did Apple put noticably lower grade screens, speakers, in this gen rmini?

I understand the markup on the original mini wasnt all that high from what I was told compared to the full size ipads. Was the rmini some kind of rebound job? I will say one thing, I also picked up an Air and now that screen floored me and destroys the rminis. Its not even close. Now this is how the minis screen should look. The clarity is unreal on the air. You really notice it with the added screen size. I just dont think with a 7" tab, that you get the maximum benefits from retina. Many reviews have said it that the Air has a much better screen and that the rmini screen didnt wow them.

http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=955A74AD-ABC4-7C10-9A43049DA58EC0C2

The rminis screen improvement over the mini is so miniscule, that even though i much prefer the size of the mini, Im leaning more towards converting to the Air as my ipad and no longer supporting the mini, until Apple puts a high quality screen in there and not something manufactured at Dollarama. I dont want to leave the mini because I truly do believe its the best size tablet today for comfort and portability, but the rmini screen is such a dissapointment and for $230 you might as well go play Blackjack at your casino cause you have a better shot there hitting the jackpot than with the rmini.

Honestly, its nice to have the A7 in there, but unless you are running 64bit powerhouse games than its really just not needed right now. By the time it will be needed and put to use, 3rd gen mini with 2gb ram will be out. People can say what they want about the A7 quad core CPU, but the fact is, its not needed right now cause its untapped deadweight.

Speaking of weight, the added weight on the rmini is really unacceptable. The thing is now a brick. My air weighs the same and the weight distribution on the Air is much more balanced in the hands. The mini is so heavy compared to the mini. What a big dissapointment.

I wont even get into how bad the speakers sound. Apple calls these speakers? Really? For a $420 device, you wouldnt expect to have 99 cent speakers put in them. They are just horrid. I just dont know what Apple was thinking with the rmini, but to me it seems like a rushed and very quickly thought out release. Just seems like not much thought was put in to the rmini and they just mocked up all the details over a 30min lunch break.

I dont know what to do. I love the mini but after using the Air, i cant see myself going back to my 1st gen mini. It is night and day difference. I might convert to the Air but I will really miss the size of the mini.

The price hike is mostly for things you don't see a two generation processor jump. Updated Logic board. Double the RAM of the last gen (mini only had 512mb) bigger battery and then there is he Retina Screen which has nearly the same PPI as the iPhone. If you think they're going to shove all that in the new mini and didn't expect a price jump you don't understand economics.
 
If it replaced the old mini for the same pricing, Id be ok with it but $420CDN price tag is just unacceptable especially when you factor in the low grade screen. Cnet rated the rmini screen as one of the worst for the 7-8" tabs.

So you're complaining about the price... return it! It's not like you're a victim of a scam. This country (as well as Canada) is a free country. Clearly it's immensely popular based on the fact that they're hard to find in stock, so return it if you're unhappy.

CNET is known for giving a rating based on sponsorship status, so naturally they're going to give others higher ratings as Apple isn't a CNET sponsor. If you seriously consider CNET a reliable source for ratings\reviews, I've got a subscription to Consumer Reports and JD Power Reports to sell you, haha
 
Can you post some sites or post links to show where the retina really shines over the mini? Should i mainly be focusing on black text on white?

What an odd request. What could people "show" you that would confirm, for you, that the Retina mini "really shines" as compared to the non-Retina mini? If you don't see the difference, then don't buy it. If you do see the difference, then decide what it's worth to you and pay no more than that.

For the record, I agree that the price of the Retina mini is quite steep, and share your disappointment that Apple chose that course. But you have to remember that this device was highly sought and is in short supply. Basic economics suggest a high price in that situation.
 
What an odd request. What could people "show" you that would confirm, for you, that the Retina mini "really shines" as compared to the non-Retina mini? If you don't see the difference, then don't buy it. If you do see the difference, then decide what it's worth to you and pay no more than that.

For the record, I agree that the price of the Retina mini is quite steep, and share your disappointment that Apple chose that course. But you have to remember that this device was highly sought and is in short supply. Basic economics suggest a high price in that situation.


I did more testing today and i do now see the difference. Not a night and day difference like some say, but a difference nonetheless.

Again, my biggest concern is whether screen retention can get worse overtime or not.
 
I did more testing today and i do now see the difference. Not a night and day difference like some say, but a difference nonetheless.

Again, my biggest concern is whether screen retention can get worse overtime or not.

It comes with a warranty you know.
 
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