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Here in canada its $90 more, not $70 which is pretty steep if you ask me. Again, its not so much that $90 is the end of the world, but that the principle of jacking up the price, in a trend where its never happened with previous models is shady and all about money.

I'm sorry, I see you were a panel fabricator and somehow got the price down for the screen. :rolleyes:

Newsflash: NO ONE IS USING THIS SCREEN BUT APPLE, it costs money to ramp up production to the level that Apple has to (no one else is ordering displays in this volume) in order to fill demand.
 
OP, this is Apple not Google. Were you one of the people thinking the originally mini would be $199? lol

not sure why people complain about price. apple has never been cheap and never will be. return it and get a google product and be done with it.
 
I feel like I'm at an AA meeting. Hi, my name is [CENSORED] ... and I love my rMini. I know Misskitty feels like Apple has done something unconscionable with the pricing for and screen of the new rMini, but whenever I use mine, I am reminded why I bought it:

  • I'm already on iOS I can't do an OS switch right now. I know that's lazy, but the over-priced premium is worth it for that reason alone.
  • Pocket portability No bags, unless I want to bring one. Not so with my iPad 3.
  • Retina screen. You say yellow, gamutless, and retention for premium pricing. I say looks great. In fact, it wasn't until I started reading these forums more regularly that I realized my perfect iPad 3 screen, my cMBP Hi-Res screen, and iPhone 4S screen have all been riddled with problems and I should have returned them when I had the chance. Funny, they always looked awesome to me, and they still do.
  • MiniAir The mini is literally lighter than the Air. However, it now shares nearly the same specs, so no huge performance tradeoffs.
  • Look Ma, one hand One-handed operation. I could never do that with my iPad 3. Never.
  • Faster Improved wireless and performance speeds -- like a lot.
  • I've become obsessed As soon as the retina screen was confirmed for the mini by WSJ and AllThingsD, I declared to my family that I was buying it as soon as it became available because I -- we -- needed it. My wife looked at my son in disbelief and replied, "Can WE be clear that YOU or WE don't NEED a mini when YOU and WE have a perfectly functioning iPad 3? What YOU NEED is an excuse to buy a new Apple product every 12 - 18 months. Can WE just be clear about that?"
I think that last bullet point is probably the most important. Because if you think about it from a total number of projected units sold, a small population of people probably have an rMini right now. Anyone who does, or did and returned it, has been on top of Apple's announcements and inventory like a maniacal stalker, or happened upon inventory serendipitously. Either way, this truly is a 1% problem.
 
The rminis screen improvement over the mini is so miniscule, that even though i much prefer the size of the mini, Im leaning more towards converting to the Air as my ipad and no longer supporting the mini, until Apple puts a high quality screen in there and not something manufactured at Dollarama...

I'm keeping the Air & returning the rMini, but think you're way off base here. rMini is an obvious improvement over the mini.
 
Bought iPad Air today for $379 after $100 GC and returning rMini is no brainer.....lower gamut, inferior screen and overpriced.....
 
Ive been Apples biggest fan of the original mini mainly cause I truly do believe its the perfect size and the most portable tablet today. Ive been looking forward to the rminis release for some time now, primarily for the retina, only to be in shock when I found out that Apple isnt sliding this into the original minis pricing, but $90CDN more! GREEDY!

I paid $330CDN for my mini the week it came in 2012. Best Buy here is giving gift cards for your ipads and for my 16GB mini, they offered me $210CDN, which I think is more than fair. But no, having to pay an extra $90 on top of the $330 for a new one, that is just wrong. So essentially it would cost me $230 with tax to upgrade to the rmini.

Now you tell me what is wrong with this pricing. $330CDN vs $420CDN for the 1st and 2nd gen minis in Canada is a complete joke. Thats 21% more for one gen upgrade?

Now factor in that this week, the 16GB Air was $20 off, making it $499, which made it only $80 more than the 16GB rmini. I compared the two and for $80 more, the Air was a much better value and showed just how overpriced the rmini is. Really its a no brainer. Only $80 to go from the rmini to the Air I think is a steal.

If Apple wants to jack up the price, the very least they could have done was upgrade the ram to 2GB, then i would see the value. I wont support this business practice as I believe its very greedy and criminal. But Apple doesnt care because people will still buy it, so you know whats going to happen next time? Apple will make this a permanent trend.

I would make a one time exception if the new screen blew me away, but unfortunately it didnt. When I first saw the rmini, it was a complete dissapointment on so many levels. I was expecting to be wowed like I was with the 3rd gen over the 2nd gen ipad.

Aside from the infamous yellowing and screen retention (what is this a plasma?), the improvement is very minimul to describe it generously. Screen retention? Gammut problems? Seriously Apple, is this 2001? I put my mini and rmini side by side viewing the exact same text content, and honestly...the only times where you can notice the rminis extra clarity is in portrait mode with super tiny text. View in landscape and its not nearly as apparent. I have very good vision, not 20/20 but very very close to it.

I did the retention checkerboard test on my rmini and what do you know, I have retention. It takes a good 2 minutes for it to go away with testing done with 35% brighness.

Icons, menu fonts and text are a tiny bit crisper by the eye on the rmini, but cmon....$230 for this? $100 i would pay yes, $150 maybe, but $230 is a straight out fleecing. This screen just doesnt wow me like the normal size ipad did when it had retina put in. If you are going to jack up the price, at the very least dont cheap out on the parts. Why did Apple put noticably lower grade screens, speakers, in this gen rmini?

I understand the markup on the original mini wasnt all that high from what I was told compared to the full size ipads. Was the rmini some kind of rebound job? I will say one thing, I also picked up an Air and now that screen floored me and destroys the rminis. Its not even close. Now this is how the minis screen should look. The clarity is unreal on the air. You really notice it with the added screen size. I just dont think with a 7" tab, that you get the maximum benefits from retina. Many reviews have said it that the Air has a much better screen and that the rmini screen didnt wow them.

http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=955A74AD-ABC4-7C10-9A43049DA58EC0C2

The rminis screen improvement over the mini is so miniscule, that even though i much prefer the size of the mini, Im leaning more towards converting to the Air as my ipad and no longer supporting the mini, until Apple puts a high quality screen in there and not something manufactured at Dollarama. I dont want to leave the mini because I truly do believe its the best size tablet today for comfort and portability, but the rmini screen is such a dissapointment and for $230 you might as well go play Blackjack at your casino cause you have a better shot there hitting the jackpot than with the rmini.

Honestly, its nice to have the A7 in there, but unless you are running 64bit powerhouse games than its really just not needed right now. By the time it will be needed and put to use, 3rd gen mini with 2gb ram will be out. People can say what they want about the A7 quad core CPU, but the fact is, its not needed right now cause its untapped deadweight.

Speaking of weight, the added weight on the rmini is really unacceptable. The thing is now a brick. My air weighs the same and the weight distribution on the Air is much more balanced in the hands. The mini is so heavy compared to the mini. What a big dissapointment.

I wont even get into how bad the speakers sound. Apple calls these speakers? Really? For a $420 device, you wouldnt expect to have 99 cent speakers put in them. They are just horrid. I just dont know what Apple was thinking with the rmini, but to me it seems like a rushed and very quickly thought out release. Just seems like not much thought was put in to the rmini and they just mocked up all the details over a 30min lunch break.

I dont know what to do. I love the mini but after using the Air, i cant see myself going back to my 1st gen mini. It is night and day difference. I might convert to the Air but I will really miss the size of the mini.

Synopsis: you don't like the iPad mini retina?
 
I poped into the apple store yesterday to have a look at the new iPads, iv net yet owned one ever (have a Air on order) and there certainly is a difference between the old mini and the new one, the retina is very sharp, the old one not so, saying that the old mini is still a fab tablet and will be getting one for my little girl this Christmas.

Adam.
 
I feel like I'm at an AA meeting. Hi, my name is [CENSORED] ... and I love my rMini. I know Misskitty feels like Apple has done something unconscionable with the pricing for and screen of the new rMini, but whenever I use mine, I am reminded why I bought it:

I'm right with you. I love my new retina mini. Yes it has some shortcomings, no device doesn't. But I think it's fantastic getting something with the specs nearly those of the Ipad Air and with a retina screen which, while not as perfect as the Ipad Air is still wonderful, and that can fit in my jacket pocket. In his review, Anand said that when the original mini came out, he didn't expect to see a mini with a retina screen in the next year, and it only happened due to advances in technology.

To your list of positives I'd add one more:

  • A 7.9 inch screen with a 4:3 aspect ratio The mini is small, but it isn't too small. This is what kept me from considering a Nexus 7; for those who don't mind small text, the mini is still big enough for reading pdf documents in portrait mode.
 
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Ive been Apples biggest fan of the original mini mainly cause I truly do believe its the perfect size and the most portable tablet today. Ive been looking forward to the rminis release for some time now, primarily for the retina, only to be in shock when I found out that Apple isnt sliding this into the original minis pricing, but $90CDN more! GREEDY!

I paid $330CDN for my mini the week it came in 2012. Best Buy here is giving gift cards for your ipads and for my 16GB mini, they offered me $210CDN, which I think is more than fair. But no, having to pay an extra $90 on top of the $330 for a new one, that is just wrong. So essentially it would cost me $230 with tax to upgrade to the rmini.

Now you tell me what is wrong with this pricing. $330CDN vs $420CDN for the 1st and 2nd gen minis in Canada is a complete joke. Thats 21% more for one gen upgrade?

Now factor in that this week, the 16GB Air was $20 off, making it $499, which made it only $80 more than the 16GB rmini. I compared the two and for $80 more, the Air was a much better value and showed just how overpriced the rmini is. Really its a no brainer. Only $80 to go from the rmini to the Air I think is a steal.

If Apple wants to jack up the price, the very least they could have done was upgrade the ram to 2GB, then i would see the value. I wont support this business practice as I believe its very greedy and criminal. But Apple doesnt care because people will still buy it, so you know whats going to happen next time? Apple will make this a permanent trend.

I would make a one time exception if the new screen blew me away, but unfortunately it didnt. When I first saw the rmini, it was a complete dissapointment on so many levels. I was expecting to be wowed like I was with the 3rd gen over the 2nd gen ipad.

Aside from the infamous yellowing and screen retention (what is this a plasma?), the improvement is very minimul to describe it generously. Screen retention? Gammut problems? Seriously Apple, is this 2001? I put my mini and rmini side by side viewing the exact same text content, and honestly...the only times where you can notice the rminis extra clarity is in portrait mode with super tiny text. View in landscape and its not nearly as apparent. I have very good vision, not 20/20 but very very close to it.

I did the retention checkerboard test on my rmini and what do you know, I have retention. It takes a good 2 minutes for it to go away with testing done with 35% brighness.

Icons, menu fonts and text are a tiny bit crisper by the eye on the rmini, but cmon....$230 for this? $100 i would pay yes, $150 maybe, but $230 is a straight out fleecing. This screen just doesnt wow me like the normal size ipad did when it had retina put in. If you are going to jack up the price, at the very least dont cheap out on the parts. Why did Apple put noticably lower grade screens, speakers, in this gen rmini?

I understand the markup on the original mini wasnt all that high from what I was told compared to the full size ipads. Was the rmini some kind of rebound job? I will say one thing, I also picked up an Air and now that screen floored me and destroys the rminis. Its not even close. Now this is how the minis screen should look. The clarity is unreal on the air. You really notice it with the added screen size. I just dont think with a 7" tab, that you get the maximum benefits from retina. Many reviews have said it that the Air has a much better screen and that the rmini screen didnt wow them.

http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=955A74AD-ABC4-7C10-9A43049DA58EC0C2

The rminis screen improvement over the mini is so miniscule, that even though i much prefer the size of the mini, Im leaning more towards converting to the Air as my ipad and no longer supporting the mini, until Apple puts a high quality screen in there and not something manufactured at Dollarama. I dont want to leave the mini because I truly do believe its the best size tablet today for comfort and portability, but the rmini screen is such a dissapointment and for $230 you might as well go play Blackjack at your casino cause you have a better shot there hitting the jackpot than with the rmini.

Honestly, its nice to have the A7 in there, but unless you are running 64bit powerhouse games than its really just not needed right now. By the time it will be needed and put to use, 3rd gen mini with 2gb ram will be out. People can say what they want about the A7 quad core CPU, but the fact is, its not needed right now cause its untapped deadweight.

Speaking of weight, the added weight on the rmini is really unacceptable. The thing is now a brick. My air weighs the same and the weight distribution on the Air is much more balanced in the hands. The mini is so heavy compared to the mini. What a big dissapointment.

I wont even get into how bad the speakers sound. Apple calls these speakers? Really? For a $420 device, you wouldnt expect to have 99 cent speakers put in them. They are just horrid. I just dont know what Apple was thinking with the rmini, but to me it seems like a rushed and very quickly thought out release. Just seems like not much thought was put in to the rmini and they just mocked up all the details over a 30min lunch break.

I dont know what to do. I love the mini but after using the Air, i cant see myself going back to my 1st gen mini. It is night and day difference. I might convert to the Air but I will really miss the size of the mini.

Synopsis: you don't like the iPad mini retina?

Hard to tell, huh. LOL.
 
Just curious why youre keeping the air over the mini?

Form factor & text size.

My most comfortable distance-from-eyes favors the Air -- I'd have to hold the rMini closer to comfortably read.

I actually expected to prefer the rMini's size, and had this image in my mind of holding & using it...

ipad-mini-music-apps-313x229.png


But for me, after I put the case on it that I prefer to protect the iPad from damage and to give good reading setups the size advantage diminishes.

Perhaps I'd have preferred the rMini if it had been my first tablet and I'd have adjusted my habits to the mini size... I dunno. Doubt it, but I can see the argument.
 
Well, i did the opposite. Had the Air for a week and exchanged it for the rMini.
In terms of display quality, the Air hands down but size/portability was my #1 priority. I am now a happy rMini owner for the next 12 months :D
 
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