As Apple Plans to Launch New Low-Cost iPad, Google Debuts First Chrome OS Tablet

[RedDeliciousPinkLady]

I send my kid to a Waldorf school because all this tablet crap in schools terrifies me.

But in terms of my art supplies, you'll have to pry my apple pencil from my cold dead hand. Looking forward to Procreate or Scriviner on Android or Chrome OS someday though. Competition is good. Apple sucks when they're on the tippity top. Those who think I'm crazy don't remember how much fun the early 2000s were.

 

[RickInHouston]

On a side note...

This is a good thread to 'ignore' people from.
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Same exact resolution as the 9.7 inch iPad.

But more expensive than the rumored iPad being announced tomorrow.

But it has a file system. BOOM.

 

[horsebattery]

"why Microsoft added Linux support" Strawman argument. What Microsoft has or hasn't done doesn't change what I said.

Speaking the truth is ranting? I'm sure ChromeOS is useful for some things. But it's not a desktop OS and it's severely lacking in Apps. Those two statements are 100% correct.

Not a hyperbolic rant driven by your own biases for sure. Definitely not.

 

[npmacuser5]

Whatever works for you. Chrome OS is a less than 1% OS, nobody uses it. It's sole purpose is for advertising data, jump on board if you'd like.

Here: Chrome OS is an operating system designed by Google that is based on the Linux kernel and uses the Google Chrome web browser as its principal user interface. As a result, Chrome OS primarily supports web applications

Only difference the shell. iOS Shell, Mac Shell, Chrome Shell (web browser). More then 1%.

Nobody using, really:

2016 Education:
Chrome OS 58%
Apple 5%

2016 All:
Chrome OS 3.3%
MacOS 20.2%

Lot of nobodies out there. 3.3% of all computers a big number. This thread, now stay focused, Education. That would be 58% for Chrome OS.

My use, Mac OS and IOS.

 

[ck2875]

I want the cheaper Apple Pencil to just be a little nub. Someone, create this with photoshop. I've tried googling "Apple Pencil Nub" but can't find it.

To be clear - like this, but an Apple Pencil:

Battery Life: 10 minutes
Loseability: All Signs Point to 'Yes'

 

[deconstruct60]

I thought Chrome OS was designed for mouse/Keyboard, Android was designed for touch.
did Google update Chrome OS UI to make it easy to work with touch input ? if they did then why would they need Android & Chrome OS ?
Google is going MS route, have multiple products with overlapping functionality.

Originally they were rigidly separated but there have been Chromebooks with touch screens for a several years now ( I think first were circa 2014 or so.).

A 2016 model
https://gizmodo.com/acer-made-the-touchscreen-chromebook-weve-been-waiting-1785967967

Google's own PixelBook ( a 4 way usage model ) late 2017
https://www.blog.google/topics/hardware/introducing-pixelbook/


To some extent the trackpads on some Chromebooks have been quite sketchy. But yes they are following MS since some of these systems are either Windows or Chrome based on the size of the SSD installed. Acer/Asus/Dell etc sells the basic design as either ChromeOS or Windows with some minor changes to baseline design.

The upside for touch is that get the Android apps which brings local app binary usage and wider scope. Not that K-12 need tons of apps but get small cover case coverage with just a couple of apps.


Android isn't like ChromeOS in significant operational ways. It is much easier to lock down ChromeOS than Android. ChromeOS apps are also much better at using/dealing with larger screens than Android apps generally are. Shrinking ChromeOS down won't work so well.

 

[DNichter]

Here: Chrome OS is an operating system designed by Google that is based on the Linux kernel and uses the Google Chrome web browser as its principal user interface. As a result, Chrome OS primarily supports web applications

Only difference the shell. iOS Shell, Mac Shell, Chrome Shell (web browser). More then 1%.

Nobody using, really:

2016 Education:
Chrome OS 58%
Apple 5%

2016 All:
Chrome OS 3.3%
MacOS 20.2%

Lot of nobodies out there. 3.3% of all computers a big number. This thread, now stay focused, Education. That would be 58% for Chrome OS.

My use, Mac OS and IOS.

It's less than 1% of all operating systems. It's still not a desktop OS no matter how you chop the numbers up. I look forward to all of you dropping your current computers for a Chromebook.

 

[jamesrick80]

And no one can complain about the lack of updates with Chrome OS. Chrome OS is guaranteed updates for 5 years. Most people see at least one update a month with their current Chrome OS devices. The joy of Chrome OS.......a desktop, mobile, and internet based operating system. There are now stand alone apps so you no longer need the internet on any chromebook for certain apps.

 

[now i see it]

...as Apple frantically changes presentation slides before tomorrow's event

 

[itsmilo]

what happened to Android Andromeda or whatever

 

[hashrack65]

And no one can complain about the lack of updates with Chrome OS. Chrome OS is guaranteed updates for 5 years.

It's actually 6.5-7 years now.

 

[idunn]

Who exactly wants Google 'educating' their children?

 

[jamesrick80]

Who exactly wants Google 'educating' their children?

Im sure if you have kids, they search google everyday....they ask a question and they get instant answers. You probably did it a minute ago so you and possibly most children are already being educated by Google. Exact reason why Google is the main search engine on any device even Apple's.

 

[DNichter]

And no one can complain about the lack of updates with Chrome OS. Chrome OS is guaranteed updates for 5 years. Most people see at least one update a month with their current Chrome OS devices. The joy of Chrome OS.......a desktop, mobile, and internet based operating system. There are now stand alone apps so you no longer need the internet on any chromebook for certain apps.

Gotta keep that advertising data flowing as long as possible.

 

[jamesrick80]

It's actually 6.5-7 years now.

Even better......

 

[Regime2008]

It's less than 1% of all operating systems. It's still not a desktop OS no matter how you chop the numbers up. I look forward to all of you dropping your current computers for a Chromebook.

Yet people can accomplish much more productivity with a ChromeOS tablet, than a joke of an OS, iOS on an Ipad. "What is a computer?"

 

[FightTheFuture]

Apple better be announcing more robust backend support or they're basically wasting their time with tomorrow's announcement. Hardware is only a part of why Google took their lunch and punched them in the grapes.

You would think that up-to-date textbook content, immersive classroom tools and more useful ways for teachers to engage their students is the main focus for education computing purchases. Though it never works that way.

So it can use webapps, local apps, run Android apps, connect external peripherals, such as mouse, monitors, keyboards, etc. But this is not a full desktop OS? Let me guess, your ipad is a full desktop OS on the other hand though?

Based on your criteria, a Galaxy S8 is a full desktop OS. A desktop OS requires desktop hardware, not a bunch of add-ins to make it "like" windows.

You actually don't need arbitrary program number 52 that only exists in Windows ( or maybe also macOS) in this context.

Exactly - unless it's for a coding class, there's really no reason kids need desktop hardware.

Neither can Apple, I mean it doesn’t actually make any of its hardware....

huh?

 

[spinedoc77]

The huge Achilles heel for Apple IMO is the virtually complete lack of parental controls on iOS. There are some restrictions on content and purchasing stuff, but I'd like much more control of what apps my kids use, how long they use them, and I'd like to be able to monitor that. For how to do it just look at the Amazon devices which have very robust parental controls.

This certainly impacts school use of ipads. Who will be the first kid to be playing candy crush while the teacher is trying to teach the class? Sure you can do kiosk mode or lock the app through accessibility, but it would probably be a ton of work to do that en masse.

 

[jamesrick80]

Gotta keep that advertising data flowing as long as possible.

Yeah and Google is the main search engine on your iOS and mac devices so keep that advertising data flowing on your devices as well.

 

[DNichter]

Yet people can accomplish much more with a ChromeOS tablet, than a joke of an OS, iOS on an Ipad. "What is a computer?"

This thread just gets better and better. Enjoy your Chromebook.

 

[apolloa]

huh?

Quite simple, Apple like everyone else contracts others to build its hardware like Foxconn using components built by other manufactures.

 

[jamesrick80]

You would think that up-to-date textbook content, immersive classroom tools and more useful ways for teachers to engage their students is the main focus for education computing purchases. Though it never works that way.


Based on your criteria, a Galaxy S8 is a full desktop OS. A desktop OS requires desktop hardware, not a bunch of add-ins to make it "like" windows.


Exactly - unless it's for a coding class, there's really no reason kids need desktop hardware.


huh?

Interestingly enough, the Galaxy S8 can be like a full desktop with the right tools. AKA DeX.......its even more productive than a ipad especially if you have the Note 8.

 

[BigHonkingDeal]

Google is such a joke

They do have multi user logins tho....

 

[DNichter]

Yeah and Google is the main search engine on your iOS and mac devices so keep that advertising data flowing on your devices as well.

I use DuckDuckGo, although Google is better (understandable). I still choose not to support their advertising business.

 

[apolloa]

The huge Achilles heel for Apple IMO is the virtually complete lack of parental controls on iOS. There are some restrictions on content and purchasing stuff, but I'd like much more control of what apps my kids use, how long they use them, and I'd like to be able to monitor that. For how to do it just look at the Amazon devices which have very robust parental controls.

This certainly impacts school use of ipads. Who will be the first kid to be playing candy crush while the teacher is trying to teach the class? Sure you can do kiosk mode or lock the app through accessibility, but it would probably be a ton of work to do that en masse.

Apple only seemed to enhance its purchasing controls after the outcry of children spending thousands in IAPs and Apple being forced to accept the blame and refund the money. I don’t have high hopes for them and parental control settings.