I agree, this thread is getting better and better. So many who glorify the ipad, yet have no clue about ChromeOS, while blatantly spreading false information. I mean how hard is it to do a simple search before commenting? Enjoy your "computer"
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Either company could afford to produce a cheap tablet for schools free of charge. This would make their greedy mark-ups credible, secure acceptance of their OS at an early age, and raise company status to saint level. But neither company has any interest in anything except maximum profit all the time at any cost.
DuckDuckGo will fail to exist...never heard of it but if it does exist...thats its fate.
When it comes to marking up products, I don't think Google or Microsoft can hold a candle to Apple. I mean, look at how a $200 product, jumps to over $1000 when it reaches customers hands. That is the definition of greed.
Class? Really. Lol, its software man, don't take it so personally.....
The poor kids will still need their parents to get them that precious apple pencil and smart keyboard. Budget friendly is not Apple....they find ways to get that extra money out of you even when they mention budget. Marking up is their existence.....
You have snipped around the edges. "its only purpose is for advertising" .... when actually in G Apps for education there is no advertising and tracking is limited. Sure if you jump out though a browser and hit the generic world wide web you get ensnared in tracking and advertising .... just like you would be in whatever "full desktop OS" you are alluding too.
ChromeOS allows for running local apps detached from internet. So that can't be the gap between it and "Full desktop OS". It is runs binaries. So that isn't the gap either. You seem to be stuck on ChromeOS from 4-5 years ago. It has significantly different capabilities now. Sure you can find corner cases but for many highly mainstream application workloads there is not really much of a material difference at this point.
That is one of the reasons it has been relatively rapidly squeezing iOS out of the education market. It is works good enough to be highly useful and it is cost effective.
Apple’s slight fall from grace in education is software and ecosystem not hardware. Lowering the price of an iPad won’t make much difference. The same issues persist that were there 6 years ago;
- Low iCloud storage space for teachers and students is still there.
- Apple IDs not designed for education
- Software having its moment in the sun and then being abandoned (expect Swift Playgorunds to go the way of iBooks Author and iTunes U)
- The need for 3rd party MDMs (add that to the every iPad).
I spent a few years delivering iPad Training for teachers for Apple and also teach with an iPad myself. iPads work well as a teaching aid, small groups device but love/hate Google, they have provided a whole school package and although some parts of the jigsaw are a bit dodgy, at least they are offering them. That’s where Apple needs to catchup to me.
- Low iCloud storage space for teachers and students is still there.
- Apple IDs not designed for education
- Software having its moment in the sun and then being abandoned (expect Swift Playgorunds to go the way of iBooks Author and iTunes U)
- The need for 3rd party MDMs (add that to the every iPad).
I spent a few years delivering iPad Training for teachers for Apple and also teach with an iPad myself. iPads work well as a teaching aid, small groups device but love/hate Google, they have provided a whole school package and although some parts of the jigsaw are a bit dodgy, at least they are offering them. That’s where Apple needs to catchup to me.
iOS isn’t a full desktop OS either and it can barely handle an iPad at this point. So we can compare iOS to chrome os?
And how about the ecosystem? It sure shows Google delivers. Or would you say that over 50% of schools are just dumb?
Apple won’t be able to match google in education. The combination of user and device management that is cross platform and low cost hardware is fairly hard to match. If you go with apple’s management you’re stuck with Apple devices, where as google accounts can be used across all platforms.
I never said iOS was a desktop OS. Chrome OS is a less than 1% operating system.
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DuckDuckGo will fail to exist...never heard of it but if it does exist...thats its fate.
Maybe write that back in English?
We are discussing the educational market where Chrome OS takes around 60% of it. Then Windows takes nearly the rest.........where is Apple....no where to be found almost in this sector.
It’s not price alone. It’s the whole package. Google is delivering where Apple is lagging/failing. We’ve seen this with desktops, laptops and now education too. If Apple isn’t able to deliver tomorrow we will see another whole category go. Years of neglect begin to show.
I never brought up anything about iOS, but it’s clearly a better OS than Chrome.
So market share constitutes a desktop OS? Does that make iOS, "not a real OS" since its under 15% market share?
Did Google steal your lunchmoney fella.when you were a kid?
In what ways? It seems many people here are disagreeing with you. Especially since you don't seem to have much of an idea of what ChromeOS even is.
Even most easy intro coding classes. Swift Playground is an iPad app. A Python (or perhaps a Kotlin) playground wouldn't be hard. Essentially there were "Logo Playground" decades ago but that isn't "modern sexy" as a target learning language. Something like HyperCard would work also.
Coding for people who probably won't be full time coders in the future ( composing a small scale logical , structured path to a solution) . It is quite doable on the Chromebook.
Coding for people who are doing higher end, professional work ... its mainstream K-12 not a finishing trade school. ( Yes you can overlap trade school stuff with 9-12 without major problems but that equipment doesn't have to be mainstreamed. )
Popularity means what though? Android wipes the floor with iOS with its userbase. Education is the same way, with iOS becoming even more of a minority of classrooms.
True, when this starts to happen with their iPhones in the future...the one piece of technology that keeps this company existing....some of these people will start to fall off with their Apple battalion.
That seems to be the root of the issues in this discussion. Lack of knowledge as to what Chrome OS is or knowledge that is woefully outdated.