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As Apple Plans to Launch New Low-Cost iPad, Google Debuts First Chrome OS Tablet
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Come on. People are allowed to dream.
Some folks select specific criteria so that it supports their opinion. If someone wants to believe that Windows won the OS war, I say let them.
It is in education market. You think school IT guy won’t make sure lock down the whatever the devices down to the basic educational purpose? You think school would allow these devices track student?
Most of them never really leaves school anyway. It will be locked down to one single application and online access will be extremely limited.
So Google data mining school kids will be extremely limited.
I clearly said desktop so why are you bringing up servers (for example)? The only desktop war IS the consumer desktop war.
Virtually nobody outside of developers or geeks who think they’re ‘leet use Linux as their primary OS.
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Come on. People are allowed to dream.
Windows clearly won the desktop OS war. No need to use “specific criteria”, except for people trying to take away from Windows. I’m a Mac guy, and I have no trouble admitting Windows dominance. Though it’s funny watching the Linux nerds get upset when reminded of this fact. They’ve been predicting the “Year of Linux on the Desktop” for 20 years now. Still hasn’t happened.
WTF? You think sever OS or super computer doesn’t have some short of desktop environment? If it does, then it is freaking desktop OS.
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LOL... You think people replying you as Linux nerd... Too funny... I only have one computer running Kubuntu and it is for fun (Windows runs too slow on that machine anyway). I use iPad and my Windows ThinkPad for most time.
Clearly, Windows only dominate consumer space. Linux or Unix for what matter is dominate in computing world. Super computers, severs, IoT devices all run some kind of Linux OS...
You’re grasping at straws and trying to alter the accepted meaning of a desktop just so you can claim some sort of victory for Linux.
My joke in the post above about the year of Linux on the desktop is funny and understood because the underlying meaning of desktop is also understood. The joke doesn’t work without this accepted standard definition of desktop.
I can't see what the stylus is like? Is it that stubby, rubber tipped stick? If yes, that really is terrible to use,
Multiple user accounts on one device. A student can take any device and log in.
waiting for morning. wallet ready. none of my iPads are supported anymore. it is kinda lame that they don't update software for security reasons at least.
My nieces and nephew are in middle school and they've only used Chromebooks their entire educational life. I was talking to my sister about a Microsoft word document and one of the kids said "What's Microsoft Word?" Goes to show how quickly things can change when the new generation is up and coming.
I don't know about this foray into tablet education, but I do know that Chromebooks have a complete stranglehold on the education market for better or worse. The laptops are dead simple to deploy and manage, they can't get malware, they're always updated, they have the educational software, and they are inexpensive. So maybe they don't have FaceID, a bionic chip, or Animojis, but for education purposes, they don't need to.
I don't know about this foray into tablet education, but I do know that Chromebooks have a complete stranglehold on the education market for better or worse. The laptops are dead simple to deploy and manage, they can't get malware, they're always updated, they have the educational software, and they are inexpensive. So maybe they don't have FaceID, a bionic chip, or Animojis, but for education purposes, they don't need to.
If we dont teach kids to pay 30-40% premiums on products now.....what good are they to apple in the future? Lets hope this event paves the way for apple and their investors!
You probably don't know the current iPad has no true tone.
So the 2017 iPad has no true tone feature, why would the rumored cheaper iPad have true tone?
In terms of closeness to computer replacement, ChromeOS > Android > iOS. Apple might be able to take preschool and elementary with iOS if pricing is similar but won't be able to compete in middle school and above.
Source? Last I checked Windows Server owns a big chunk of Server market share, Making windows #1 overall
So Google doesn't actually charge for G Suite for Education. And the vast majority of Chromebooks are sold by OEMs like Acer, ASUS, Lenovo or HP.
So if Google isn't making any money, then why are they investing in education? What do they get out of it (since they're not charging anything)? Seems pretty obvious what Google wants.
So if Google isn't making any money, then why are they investing in education? What do they get out of it (since they're not charging anything)? Seems pretty obvious what Google wants.
It is very conceivable that your nieces and nephew, and my son, will not need anything other than a Chromebook by the time they graduate high school. I'm finishing out my MBA this year, and except for some power use cases, specifically with Excel, the apps I used and the resources I accessed, were available on Chrome OS, Android, or via the browser.
Right. I suppose Apple investing in code camps that target specifically Macs is much different.
I don’t care about a low-cost iPad option for education. I want an updated iPad Mini to pair with my iPhone. Thank you.
Not only does Apple need to release a purposefully designed iPad C built for classrooms, rugged and inexpensive — a polycarbonate case, rather than aluminum will solve both of those problems — and with support for Pencil, Apple needs to think of the entire experience from deployment, to use by students and teachers, to maintenance by school staff. Apple's school solution must account for every part of the experience or else schools will just remain with ChromeOS. iOS is missing several components of that workflow right now.
How does Apple interface with digital whiteboards? How do school support staff update thousands of iPads? How do they deal with theft? How do they keep all of these iPads and Pencils charged? How do kids take their work with them home for homework?
There are a lot of little and big problems that need to be solved. Let's see if they fill in those blanks tomorrow.
How does Apple interface with digital whiteboards? How do school support staff update thousands of iPads? How do they deal with theft? How do they keep all of these iPads and Pencils charged? How do kids take their work with them home for homework?
There are a lot of little and big problems that need to be solved. Let's see if they fill in those blanks tomorrow.
How is that even remotely true?
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Android has multi user support as well.
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I’m sure you have good reasons why you think Chrome OS can replace a computer better than an iOS device.
Absolutely! Yes, this looks like a piece of junk. And it is. However, Google's free Educational Tools (Google Drive, Backup and Sync, Google Slides, Docs... and their school management software) is wrapping up the educational market. Why? Because the hardware is cheap (doesn't matter to the budget people that it is crap) and the online software and tools is FREE. Apple cannot compete with that. It is astonishing how many schools are adopting Google technology. That is scary. Because they are data mining every single kid (millions) that have their free google school account. Schools should care - but they don't. Google partners with tons of other innovative educational software companies that use Google cloud services. Apple has nothing to compete with that. This new Google tablet will be a huge success. Apples plans? It will be the same ol' same ol'! A nice device with a big app store. And that's about it. Even if the new iPad for Education is lower in price, they cannot compete with FREE Google web services. Apple is still run by the age-old hippies from the 70's - well maybe the 80's and 90's. Eddie Cue? Phil Schiller? They don't have a clue. Convince me I am wrong.
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There is no doubt that iOS is much better OS than Android in terms of security and consistency. But the Chrome OS on devices has no doubt taken over the educational market. I don't think Apple can catch up. Google has a lot more under the hood than just the device.
Everything you just said is invalidated by the fact that you got wrong — repeatedly — the critical part of your argument: Apple does have free educational tools. Pages, Numbers and Keynote are included Free with every iPad. All of those apps work in collaboration, either through apps on other iPads or on the web via iCloud.com. Free. Every iPad backs up into iCloud and syncs, for free. iCloud drive is also included, for free.
Now, let me preempt an argument you might make. While consumer accounts come with 5GB of iCloud data, both enterprise and institutional clients negotiate caps outside of what is given to consumers. And since education is clearly an important market for Apple, they can offer whatever data caps are suited to that client to ensure that they capture their business.