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As Apple Plans to Launch New Low-Cost iPad, Google Debuts First Chrome OS Tablet
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why are you so active and engaged in this topic but you don't know the answer to this question? You were on page 1 which I was browsing and still here on page 6 but you don't know very basic answers to what computers/tablets the education market is actually using.
I had seen it repeated in the thread, but hadn’t seen any data behind it. I looked it up, yes popular in schools.
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I can’t see Apple releasing an iPad in a poly chassis. The remainder I agree with. $299 with a Gen 1 Apple Pencil.
I can't give numbers. I can only speak to my experience as a teacher in one of the largest school boards in Canada, and my correspondence and collaboration with educators beyond my board, and express my disagreement with the unsupported statement that "Google is a joke". I find that many of the people who comment on what Google or Apple are or aren't doing in the education sector haven't even been in a school since the invention of WiFi.
I didn’t say Google is a joke. Very good search and advertising company. I just didn’t consider Chrome a desktop OS, still very much a mobile OS in my eyes. It’s good that they are doing so well in education, but I still question their motives.
I didn't say that you said they're a joke. It was my response to someone else who said that which you quoted.
As for their motives, I assume that it's to make money. Neither Google nor Apple are charities.
Oh yea I agree, but they don’t make any money from hardware, software, or services. They make 95% of their revenue from advertising, so building profiles around children at an early age to serve up targeted ads just feels wrong to me. I know many people don’t have an issue with it.
I dont see why people are hating on the Chrome OS Tablet. Looks like a decent tablet for education at a reasonable price point. The included Wacom stylus is also intriguing, I wonder if this tablet could work as a drawing device? If it works reasonably well for drawing apps I would definitely pick one up over an iPad Pro.
I haven't seen any evidence that their education platforms are used for such data mining, but maybe you know more than I do in that regard.
Well they aren’t a charity like you said and they only make money from advertising. I’d imagine they aren’t doing it for fun.
I can’t see Apple releasing an iPad in a poly chassis. The remainder I agree with. $299 with a Gen 1 Apple Pencil.
I guess we'll see tomorrow!
If the $259 price is accurate, I'm not sure how else Apple would cut costs. The majority of iPads in school probably are protected by a case already. So I don't think a polycarb chassis is a negative for something priced towards education.
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7nm from TSMC needs time to ramp.
True, but I just don't see how much useful data they get from education accounts. I suppose someone at Google is very well versed in my students' homework assignments, but not much personal data.
Yea I guess it depends if they use it for search or any Google services.
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Chrome OS is dominating in education. Apple won't be able to match it.
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Apple also sucks at cross-platform tools. Schools can have iOS, Android, MacOS, Windows and Chrome OS devices and the same platform (Google accounts) can be used. Apple doesn't offer anything that matches that.
It's 2018. 30 year old definitions (what's a computer? what's a desktop? what's a real desktop OS?) just don't always apply anymore.
My main 'computer' is my phone. The device I use (at home) most of the time as my 'desktop' is a tablet. And since most of what I do for work or entertainment is web based, my 'real desktop OS' can be anything that can run a browser.
With Android set to run (smoothly) on Chrome OS in the very near future, Google is but a few apps away from offering most of what I need for my use case (mid-level manager) to switch from macOS to Chrome OS for my desktop needs, while keeping iOS for my mobile requirements.
Getting back to the main subject, from what I've heard, Adobe Creative Cloud Android apps work well, and there are YouTube videos (haven't watched) that say you can run them on a modern, mid to high end ChromeBook. And with cloud-based IDEs (several with free accounts that can be used by students) available for programming, I can't think of many things a grade 1-12 student can't do on a ChromeBook.
So, if it walks like a desktop, and quacks like a desktop, who cares if it's not a traditional desktop?
My main 'computer' is my phone. The device I use (at home) most of the time as my 'desktop' is a tablet. And since most of what I do for work or entertainment is web based, my 'real desktop OS' can be anything that can run a browser.
With Android set to run (smoothly) on Chrome OS in the very near future, Google is but a few apps away from offering most of what I need for my use case (mid-level manager) to switch from macOS to Chrome OS for my desktop needs, while keeping iOS for my mobile requirements.
Getting back to the main subject, from what I've heard, Adobe Creative Cloud Android apps work well, and there are YouTube videos (haven't watched) that say you can run them on a modern, mid to high end ChromeBook. And with cloud-based IDEs (several with free accounts that can be used by students) available for programming, I can't think of many things a grade 1-12 student can't do on a ChromeBook.
So, if it walks like a desktop, and quacks like a desktop, who cares if it's not a traditional desktop?
I suppose if they illegally stole data from Apple.
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Very well said.
Well, we either trust them or we don't (which applies to all these companies). Knowing Google, they probably run all kinds of stuff on the data without actually "taking" it in any way... loopholes and all. Have to train those AIs somehow
That's the state of things these days since everyone is all-aboard the "cloud" train.
WTF? If you count a the super computers and servers in the world, Linux absolutely crash Windows. Mac doesn't even have space in sever and super computer spaces.
Windows did not won the desktop war, it won the consumer desktop war. Since you really want play into professional and high end game, there you go.
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People can. If you say, iPad can replace people's PC, Chromebook absolutely can.
It gets Android apps, it gets all the Chrome extension, it gets file managers, it runs all Google and Microsoft Office applications... etc.
