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I liked POSV but i really hope this works out and tells the story in a better way, the book was brilliant and Ashton seems to have a great amount of respect for SJ so hopefully this won't be some rushed/make money production.
 
Maybe you and others had doubts. But it was VERY clear from his performance in big - what his range was.

That's not at all true. Big was not a dramatic role, it was a comedy with the occasional cheesy, forced heartfelt moment. It was obvious from Big that Tom Hanks was an amazing comedic actor, but not dramatic actor. Those are two extremely different things, and there are countless great actors who have been terrific at one and terrible at the other. Philadelphia is a very heavy drama about what at the time was a very serious, controversial, tragic issue. Big is a silly, lighthearted film about coming of age and discovering that growing up is about more than just being taller. When Hanks was cast in Philadelphia, people were shocked, and it's not because anyone doubted that he was intelligent or that he had talent. It was simply a very new role for him, which no one had ever seen him do. In fact, I'd say that the closest he had ever gotten to serious drama at that point was when he played the drunk uncle on Family Ties. (It's still one of my favorite Hanks performances.)

This is a lot like the time when Michael Jordan announced he was going into baseball. Everyone seemed skeptical. No one doubts that Michael Jordan is an amazing athlete, but being great at basketball doesn't mean he'll automatically be great at baseball. And he wasn't.

Lets hope Ashton Kutcher is more Tom Hanks and less Michael Jordan in this case.

UPDATE: Actually Sleepless in Seattle came before Philadelphia, and A League of Their Own before that. It was really a stretch from 1992 to 1994 where his career took a sudden curve in a completely different direction. His goofball comedies of the 80s, like Money Pit and Turner & Hooch, gave way to more serious roles, first to sports drama and romantic comedy. Philadelphia is probably still his most serious, somber role. Looking at his IMDB page, I'm actually surprise by what little comedy he's done since.
 
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hollywood always quick to make a (huge) buck. I 'd rather remember Steve via his life, work and bio than watch 100m of crap trying to condense all that to a consumable product. It's not like I am going to gain any insight or drama or whatever...

Ditto here.

Besides, the fact that he stated that the role is "meant for him" tells a lot about how far off the curve of reasonable intelligence and humility he is.

correct, a stupid brat he is, and we wouldn't know acting if it hit him on the face with a sledgehammer...and if acting had any volition of its own I am sure would.
 
I think Kutcher will be able to pull it off. The resemblance really is striking.

What he looks like has nothing to do with how believably he can play the role. You don't cast an actor because of his haircut.
 
Don't discount people, I mean just watch the chosen one and you'll see even rob schneider can play a pretty good role.

note: bad movie with a stupid plot - just pointing out rob schneider's pretty good acting.
 
Do any of you know how good of an actor he is? If you did, you'd actually be quite sad.
 
See: Robin Williams in Good Will Hunting
Will Farrell in Stranger than Fiction
See Robin Williams in Good Morning Vietnam, Dead Poets Society, The World According to Garp, Insomnia, One Hour Photo, and Awakenings.

That being said, I can't get behind the Kutcher casting. I'll wait and see, but for now it just feels all kinds of wrong.
 
Who says they will ever get that far. From the sounds of it they might not.

From what I've read about the project, it seems like they'll likely end the story at or before the point that Steve is ousted from Apple. That's my guess at least. It would be a good dramatic ending, and they could easily end it with some foreshadowing to how he would eventually return to Apple and dominate the market.

Plus, I really don't see anyone being all that interested in watching him star up NeXT.
 
From what I've read about the project, it seems like they'll likely end the story at or before the point that Steve is ousted from Apple. That's my guess at least. It would be a good dramatic ending, and they could easily end it with some foreshadowing to how he would eventually return to Apple and dominate the market.
Or just make two epically long films like "The Hobbit."

Jobs: The Unexpected Journey

Jobs 2: There and Back Again
 
See Robin Williams in Good Morning Vietnam, Dead Poets Society, The World According to Garp, Insomnia, One Hour Photo, and Awakenings.

That being said, I can't get behind the Kutcher casting. I'll wait and see, but for now it just feels all kinds of wrong.

Was just giving an example, didn't feel the need to list them all.

And I don't disagree, I have mixed feelings about Kutcher being in a serious role. But I will wait and see, maybe he'll do well.
 
If Woz is on board, I'm on board!
To be fair, he's probably on board because it's already announced, Woz is a very diplomatic and gentle guy.

In fact the mismatch in demeanour between Jobs and Woz alone would make for an interesting premise to the movie.
 

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Yeah, and Steve Jobs was just as "humble." All I can think of was how people underestimated Heath Ledger for the role as The Joker. Turned out quite a surprise. I think Ashton "might" pull it off too but nothing to bet the entire mortgage on.

The difference is that while many believed Ledger to be miscast for the role, he actually had good acting skills. Kutcher, on the other hand, hasn't yet displayed skill to play dramatic roles.
I hope to be proven wrong on this one but my confidence about Kutcher isn't particularly high.
 
Yeah they'll have to do some serious ageing tricks.. will be interesting to see. Can't say whether I think Kutcher will do a good job or not. I'm confident that he can do more than just That 70's Show style humour, but acting as Steve Jobs... ? That's a challenge.

People do know that he's done MORE than just That 70's Show, right? He's been in drama's, including the Butterfly Effect, where I felt he did a pretty decent job. The thing is that he can do more than just comedy...

I'm not very fond of him, and other than looks, I also have trouble seeing him as Jobs, but he seems to be putting a lot of effort to prepare for this. You can't judge before watching.

And anyway, with today's technology and make up skills, I think they can really make sure they look alike even more. That won't be too tough.
 
People do know that he's done MORE than just That 70's Show, right? He's been in drama's, including the Butterfly Effect, where I felt he did a pretty decent job. The thing is that he can do more than just comedy...
This is actually the problem for actors that land a long-term TV role. It's bad enough being typecast by a movie that turns out popular, but a TV show that is on weekly for 8 years completely can force perception to be narrow.
 
The difference is that while many believed Ledger to be miscast for the role, he actually had good acting skills. Kutcher, on the other hand, hasn't yet displayed skill to play dramatic roles.
I hope to be proven wrong on this one but my confidence about Kutcher isn't particularly high.

He's a **** actor, period. Actually he isn't an actor to be quite frank. Anyone can "display skills" after 40 takes with the best drama coaches working a single script for a few months. It's a testament to how bad some "actors" in hollywood are that despite all that some can't even appear to be good actors for a film or two.
 
I used to think there was some resemblance between Jobs and Tom Cruise (younger versions anyway).
 

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