AT&T and Sprint Settle Lawsuit Over Misleading '5GE' Label for AT&T's 4G Network

[tridley68]

Makes no difference to me if my phone displays a 2G 3G 4G 5G or L.T.E . icon on the screen just as long as my phone works when i need to use it .

 

[B4U]

It's incredibly stupid marketing. But since ATT wants to play this game with me i've called them like 4 times in the last week complaining my 5g phone wasnt going at 5g speeds and got a reduction on my bill

Maybe all of us need to do this at the same time to ATT.

 

[martyjmclean]

I think I read somewhere where studies in Europe show the 5G tech to actually be harmful to humans. I can’t remember where I read that though.

Probably the same place you read that microwaved food will give you cancer.

 

[Cyberpower678]

Probably the same place you read that microwaved food will give you cancer.

Uhh what? Microwaved food, WiFi 5GHz, and LTE are proven to be harmless. No. I read that the way 5G works has the potential to damage human tissue. One of the reasons it was halted in Belgium.

 

[yeah]

I love how most people on this forum are misinformed about cellular tech. “5Ge” is a bull crap claim and is not true 5G NR.

It’s only AT&T’s representation of LTE-Advanced technology.

 

[psingh01]

Settled huh? I guess Sprint customers will enjoy 5GE soon as well.

 

[benthewraith]

Is there any American carrier who is even close to the 4G hardware up/down limit? If not, then upping that limit with 5G sounds kind of pointless.

There are places in Florida where I have full bar LTE and yet somehow the speeds are slower than dialup.

 

[C DM]

Makes no difference to me if my phone displays a 2G 3G 4G 5G or L.T.E . icon on the screen just as long as my phone works when i need to use it .

Many things don't really matter to many people, or doesn't make them meaningless or of no concern to plenty of others.

 

[bigjnyc]

This all comes across as desperate on Sprint’s part. They are teetering on the brink, praying their merger with T-Mobile goes through. Let AT&T’s customers decide for themselves if it’s a marketing gimmick or not. Why doesn’t Sprint just focus on not delivering a sucky network? This is the best use of their paltry resources??

I think their point is that customers are mostly dumb and gullible and cannot decide for themselves lol.

 

[kironin]

Uhh what? Microwaved food, WiFi 5GHz, and LTE are proven to be harmless. No. I read that the way 5G works has the potential to damage human tissue. One of the reasons it was halted in Belgium.

Probably the same place you read that microwaved food will give you cancer.

It's not hard to google "5G Belgium" and see that they have halted it,
https://www.fiercewireless.com/5g/brussels-halts-5g-plans-over-radiation-rules

"5G works has the potential to damage human tissue"
according to who you listen to it's either not an issue or we just don't know because no studies involving the scenarios of 5G have been done,

5G not a problem,
https://e3.marco.ch/publish/sunrise/821_3887/20190327_MM_asut_Faktencheck_5G-EN.pdf
or we don't know,

The issue for any study is that 5G employs a broad range of radio frequencies not just one single band,
https://www.lifewire.com/5g-spectrum-frequencies-4579825
Not all service providers use the same frequency band for 5G. Like we mentioned above, there are advantages and disadvantages to using any part of the 5G spectrum.

• T-Mobile: T-Mobile plans to use low-band spectrum (600 MHz) as well as mid-band spectrum.
• Verizon: Verizon's 5G Ultra Wideband network uses millimeter waves, specifically 28 GHz and 39 GHz.
• AT&T: AT&T's deployment strategy is to use millimeter wave spectrum for dense areas and mid and low-spectrum for rural and suburban locations.
• Sprint: Sprint claims to have more spectrum than any other carrier in the US, with three spectrum bands: 800 MHz, 1.9 GHz and 2.5 GHz.

how relevant are any previous studies
to the proposed power outputs and density of transmitters proposed in high bandwidth regions ?

I think there is concern for the lack of knowledge as the industry speeds ahead. People have a right to question that lack of knowledge even if theoretically it seems unlikely there is any potential issues.

 

[ChromeAce]

Should have just called it “Smollett mode.”

 

[WaruiKoohii]

Whatever 5Ge is , it’s damn slow.

90Mbps down here. Slow af.

 

[KrispE00]

I speed tested 5GE in DC, and got a whopping 4 Mbps. They should obviously fix the speeds of LTE first.

Really? I consistently get over 100 Mbps on AT&T in northern VA. I just got 151 Mbps.

 

[MoreRumors?]

ATT deceptive marketing and doles out money to Sprint to stop from "advocating" on behalf of consumers. Sprint, good job on taking the money to stay silent.

 

[raghu8912]

Doesn't matter weather service providers offer 4G, 5G, 6G I will have poor coverage with 2 bars and will experience dropped calls.
all these are just marketing gimmicks.
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Apple probably didn't want to be bothered by ignorant AT&T customers complaining why iPhone is only LTE when their Android friends are on 5GE.

Not exactly "courageous" obviously.

Android friends are on 5GE
Show me one phone that has 5G Modem ?
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There are places in Florida where I have full bar LTE and yet somehow the speeds are slower than dialup.

4G, 5G are marketing gimmicks, service doesn't change.

 

[Tozovac]

AT&T has defended its 5GE branding by calling 5G Evolution "first step on the road to 5G" and by claiming that customers "love" the 5GE branding because they "want and deserve to know" when "better speeds" are available.

Wonder whether those two customers also preferred New Coke and iOS 7.0.0.

 

[lostngone]

A little off topic but I am STILL waiting for the speed AT&T promised with 4G LTE.

 

[Cyberpower678]

It's not hard to google "5G Belgium" and see that they have halted it,
https://www.fiercewireless.com/5g/brussels-halts-5g-plans-over-radiation-rules

"5G works has the potential to damage human tissue"
according to who you listen to it's either not an issue or we just don't know because no studies involving the scenarios of 5G have been done,

5G not a problem,
https://e3.marco.ch/publish/sunrise/821_3887/20190327_MM_asut_Faktencheck_5G-EN.pdf
or we don't know,

The issue for any study is that 5G employs a broad range of radio frequencies not just one single band,
https://www.lifewire.com/5g-spectrum-frequencies-4579825
Not all service providers use the same frequency band for 5G. Like we mentioned above, there are advantages and disadvantages to using any part of the 5G spectrum.

• T-Mobile: T-Mobile plans to use low-band spectrum (600 MHz) as well as mid-band spectrum.
• Verizon: Verizon's 5G Ultra Wideband network uses millimeter waves, specifically 28 GHz and 39 GHz.
• AT&T: AT&T's deployment strategy is to use millimeter wave spectrum for dense areas and mid and low-spectrum for rural and suburban locations.
• Sprint: Sprint claims to have more spectrum than any other carrier in the US, with three spectrum bands: 800 MHz, 1.9 GHz and 2.5 GHz.

how relevant are any previous studies
to the proposed power outputs and density of transmitters proposed in high bandwidth regions ?

I think there is concern for the lack of knowledge as the industry speeds ahead. People have a right to question that lack of knowledge even if theoretically it seems unlikely there is any potential issues.

Like I said, I read something, somewhere about it. I may have some or more details wrong. I only skimmed the article.

 

[Smith288]

Why not call it LTE+ instead?

 

[CordovaBay]

What are 5G speeds?
Theoretically, 5G speed should be 10x 4G speed, but actual testing in Chicago showed it at best 4x speed, by the antenna and the only phone connected!
So, if you can see the antenna from your location and it's not raining, you can expect about 2x speed over 4G! So, what is all this fuss about? Do, users here think 5G will be live changing?

4G provides speeds up to 1 Gbps. That's for stationary connections. But, it should provide over 100 Mbps for full mobile with totally transparent tower hand off. LTE means "we don't provide this but we are on the way to do so." So, twice the speed of 4G would indicate speeds of 200 Mbps with transparent hand off. That would be super since I never reach the 100 Mbps speeds today. 5G should easily provide anywhere from 10 to 100 times the 4G speeds but more importantly not suffer from larger user populations and continue to deliver almost not latency. Sounds like AT&T has put lipstick on a pig and is calling it a cow! They are no where near 5G spec -- especially when you consider they aren't using 5G radios!