You guys that are bashing AT&T have no clue what it takes to maintain a wireless network like at&ts. I don't work for them, but I work in the 'industry' at the network level. The changes that were needed in the network architecture to cover the addition use was needed; mostly in the switching and routing department to handle the load of burst packets over the protocol for mms. Do some research on how mms works. It's not just a text, it's alot more, and they wanted to make sure it's solid before opening on the flood gates.
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AT&T Announces iPhone MMS Launch Date: September 25
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I should have ended my post with YMMV, I apologize.
All carriers have dead spots. And I'm in no way stating that Verizon is king... I've never once been a Verizon customer, so I have no way of personally knowing their strengths and weaknesses. AT&T has awesome coverage in Salt Lake City where I have family and visit quite often. I remember being in the mountains with my brother (Sprint, no signal) and I was streaming audio from a baseball game on EDGE at elevation 7,700 ft (elevation stat courtesy of MotionX GPS app
).I also should correctly state that Consumer Reports' article on U.S. carriers wasn't a 'test', but rather surveys submitted from carrier customers asking them for input on network strength, call quality, customer service, etc. I wouldn't define it as scientific by any stretch, much like thread replies on MR.
CR is a subscription service, and I'm at work right now so give me a little time to compile that list of cities and their results.
Just my opinion:
When at&t was allowing BlackBerry customers MMS. They new they had to turn on iPhone MMS soon.
When at&t was allowing BlackBerry customers MMS. They new they had to turn on iPhone MMS soon.
The Rapport
I wouldn't be so harsh about this news naturally but att is expensive, and frankly I'm not impressed.
I wouldn't be so harsh about this news naturally but att is expensive, and frankly I'm not impressed.
I have to respect the UA and therefor cannot cite that information for the reasons below, but for a fee you can read up on it. It's all there for everyone to see.
Again, it is not based on a 'test' but rather submitted surveys of U.S. mobile carrier quality.
Consumer Reports (Consumers Union) User Agreement
It shouldn't matter how it works,, they SHOULD have had it working already.. If their the nations largest 3G network than it better act like it.. They knew MMS was coming way before the June update and why have they still had to wait to get it working on there end...
It's not like AT&T is finally adding MMS to there entire network.. It works on all other phone's except the iphone.. They shouldn't have to change anything on there end except adding equipment for usage issues....
James
While I understand the frustration of inadequate AT&T service and the desire to switch carriers "when available", the iPhone going to Verizon won't happen anytime soon in my opinion.
If Verizon's going to make a move on the iPhone, it's going to be when Verizon's LTE (4G) network is up and successfully running. CDMA is out and old, LTE is in and new.
In addition, AT&T will be moving to LTE and as a result, the two largest wireless companies in the U.S. will be on the same 4G technology.
My prediction will be Verizon will dominate their LTE networks in some markets, and AT&T will dominate their LTE networks in others.
Anyone remember the days of astronomical roaming charges? I think it's about to make a come-back.
If Verizon's going to make a move on the iPhone, it's going to be when Verizon's LTE (4G) network is up and successfully running. CDMA is out and old, LTE is in and new.
In addition, AT&T will be moving to LTE and as a result, the two largest wireless companies in the U.S. will be on the same 4G technology.
My prediction will be Verizon will dominate their LTE networks in some markets, and AT&T will dominate their LTE networks in others.
Anyone remember the days of astronomical roaming charges? I think it's about to make a come-back.
Here is why i think the 2g cant send mms. iPhone 3.0 firmware sends text in the background. If you are sending a mms on the 2g you wont have enough bandwidth left to make a phone call or surf the net. and people being the stupid consumers they are wont understand this and freak out when they cant make a call and send a mms at the same time.
I dont even live and America and r lolzing around in great hysterity of the crap AT&T is.
2degrees FTW!!!
2degrees FTW!!!
I dont even live and America and r lolzing around in great hysterity of the crap AT&T is.
2degrees FTW!!!
It's pretty sad. America used to be the industrialized capital of the world.
Right now, iPhone users in Indonesia are enjoying MMS while I'm sitting at home on my PowerBook G4 in Washington DC wondering if my iPhone will even make calls on 9/25.
i doubt there connection will be any slower. now that they fixed the network to wistand it. and im sure the change will be minimal no one will notice a decrease if any at all.
The problem with what you are saying is that an iPhone 3G will still send and receive MMS messages while on EDGE, a situation where it effectively is a 2G.
I have a first generation iPhone that i purchased in January of 2008, and for a long time I loved it. Then 2.0 came along and I made the mistake of installing it right away. A short time later 2.1 came out and things were o.k. again, for about a month and a half, when AT&T decided to fix some of their 3G issues by stripping the guts out of their EDGE service. Ever since then I have had crap for service in places where service was formerly fantastic.
To recap:
- I paid $399 for my phone, not including sales tax.
- for roughly the last 11 months AT&T has been providing a lower level of service than I started with.
- AT&T is going to F*** ME OVER by not providing a feature to me that their cheapest phone provides.
- It seems likely that I will continue to receive NO NOTIFICATION AT ALL that a message has been sent to me when it is a MMS message. (This one is going over great with my friends btw).
Let's not forget that jailbroken iPhones have been sending and receiving MMS messages since 2007. I'm just so thrilled that AT&T and Apple have decided to royally screw us first gen iPhone owners once again!
Thank you AT&T! The greatest cellular provider in the greatest country in the world.
Not all of us iPhone users are whiny girly men.
Not all of us iPhone users are whiny girly men.
I've had an old Nokia flip phone that sent and received over the GPRS network 6 years ago.
The issue is not phone or network speed related, it's purely greed. Apple is not going to include MMS in the 2G's firmware simply because leaving it out will make more people, who want that feature, have to upgrade to a 3G phone. AT&T wins too because they'll be able to extract an extra $15 per month, in data plan fees, from each user who upgrades.
My 2G iPhone phone was stolen a few months ago and 3G was the ONLY available option, for new purchase, from AT&T. So in replacing the phone, I was was forced to pay $15 more, per month, for the same crappy AT&T service!
Carrier exclusivity agreement only benefit the network provider, certainly NOT consumers who foot the bill!
I guarantee MMS will be as useless as copypaste, which I use only once in a blue moon.
All this unnecessary hoopla, I tell ya!
All this unnecessary hoopla, I tell ya!
And this is the only usefulness I will ever get out of MMS. :3
and because I'm using iPhone OS beta 3, I already have MMS.
in 10 years we have gone from "you can hear a pin drop" MCI... to "CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?"
What a reflection on the industry.
Your damages will be a credit on your next bill of $.18.
We lawyers will get $22,000,000. ;-)
Ohhh ok, understood. Now if you can explain away all the other negatives of said company, I'm sure many would completely understand. Maybe starting with the reason for the $140 phone bills people receive occasionally when they should be no more than $82 would be good. Then we can go from there.
You'd think that would only need to be said once instead of 8973458738537 other times in this thread, right?
I can't believe no one else has pointed out the girl in the picture is using a 1st gen iPhone.
Guess I gotta do everything around here.
Guess I gotta do everything around here.