When did people the do unauthorized tethering become criminals? When do people get put in jail for breaching the cellphone contract? All the company can do is really amend or cancel your service. Where did this criminal thing come from?
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AT&T Cracking Down on Unauthorized Tethering
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marksman
macrumors 603
iApples
macrumors 65816
You say this now... but when your plans gets terminated because of your unauthorized tethering, you will be out of luck...
I have decided to "watch" netflix movies on my phone 24-7, just to get my moneys worth out of my data charges.
Rodimus Prime
macrumors G4
which is an example of why I feel AT&T needs to change how they treat the unlimited plane to match how T-Mobile does it.
After lets say 4-5gigs of data kill their speed down to Edge or GPRS speeds.
Still unlimited just they are killings you speeds.
You can not complain because they did not change your contract. You threaten to leave they will say do not let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
5 gigs is about a break even point.
Nickel & Dime
I get it, technically its wrong, and illeagal for people to do this, but at&t nickels and dimes it customers pretty bad. They really shouldn't charge you for tethering it should just come out of your data plan. I pay X amount of dollars every month for X amount of 3G data. What medium I choose to view use it on should be irrelevent. The gas station doesn't charge you more for 87 octane just because you're using in a motorcycle vise a car, how dumb would that be!
I get it, technically its wrong, and illeagal for people to do this, but at&t nickels and dimes it customers pretty bad. They really shouldn't charge you for tethering it should just come out of your data plan. I pay X amount of dollars every month for X amount of 3G data. What medium I choose to view use it on should be irrelevent. The gas station doesn't charge you more for 87 octane just because you're using in a motorcycle vise a car, how dumb would that be!
At&t
AT&T needs to change the unlimted data plans to capped plans and end all of this now. Then you can comence your whinning
If you want more regulation get Apple involoved. If you try to sync a Jailbroken phone with iTunes it will refuse to sync the data or force an upgrade in order for you to continue. Killing the jailbreak...
That will surely fix the system...
AT&T needs to change the unlimted data plans to capped plans and end all of this now. Then you can comence your whinning
If you want more regulation get Apple involoved. If you try to sync a Jailbroken phone with iTunes it will refuse to sync the data or force an upgrade in order for you to continue. Killing the jailbreak...
That will surely fix the system...
For the record, despite the common perception, tethering is not an 'option' for ANY data plan. 2GB data do not have the option to 'add' tethering.
In order to gain official tethering service you must replace your existing plan with the 4GB one that includes tethering.
This may seem minor, but this makes a significant difference in how the contract is structured since tethering is not a separate line item.
Except that jailbroken phones (actually even factory iphones) don't need iTunes to get content on them. There are plenty of alternatives. If apple thought it was worth it to try and catch jb phones through iTunes they would have done it long ago...
iTunes has never forced an upgrade to my JB iPhones. In fact they play surprisingly well together.
KidStallyn
macrumors 6502
Since this started happening....I've started to listen to SiriusXM through their app and stream music all day long.....whether I'm listening to it or not. My goal is to use as much data as possible........with ZERO tethering I have the following usages:
Oct: 7.1 GB
Nov: 7.2 GB
Dec: 3.8 GB
Jan: 5.4 GB
Feb: 7.6 GB
Mar: 5 GB
At least that's what ATT has listed on the website....
Oct: 7.1 GB
Nov: 7.2 GB
Dec: 3.8 GB
Jan: 5.4 GB
Feb: 7.6 GB
Mar: 5 GB
At least that's what ATT has listed on the website....
Mr. Chewbacca
macrumors 6502a
25 pages of posts summed up in a single sentence
You've been over taxing the network we all use out of spite for months? Seriously? How old are you?
KidStallyn
macrumors 6502
Almost 40......and I got ZERO problem with it. Make a freakin network that can handle "Unlimited" data. I'm an engineer.....It's not Rocket Science.
Mr. Chewbacca
macrumors 6502a
You think they can make a profitable network that can handle the kinda data you use for 30.00 a month? Serious question, you're the engineer.
If your actually using the data, say pandora while your training, than thats one thing but wasting data? Overuse is the reason they are having to crack down in the first palce, or atleast one of them. I have MiWi but adv about 1.5gb a month.
PS, my GF and I did P90X, I lost 40lbs (I'm 6'8" 300) that is a brutal program but it amazes me what I can lift now and her 6 pack... nice 😀 😀 .
Were doing it again this summer.
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KidStallyn
macrumors 6502
I don't consider it "wasting". I'm listening to the music. Just since this whole scandal came about in the last week or so, when I'd go on a telecon I used to turn it off.....Now I just let it run and turn the volume down. Those usage numbers are before the crackdowns. I don't tether at all....That's purely music and video streaming via approved apps in the app store.
As for the question of could I design a network that could handle the traffic. I really think I could with my RF and real time embedded systems background. But that's not where I work, so it's not my worry. I'm just annoyed that ATT gives us unlimited data yet says there's limitations on "how" that data is used.
PS. Great job on P90X. 6'8" is ginormous to me at 5'11". I absolutely love the workouts, and really look forward to pushing myself further each and every workout. On top of that, I'm a runner and log about 30-40 miles a week. Lots of music from SiriusXM there too, although on track workouts.....No music allowed. I'm a P90X BeachBody coach. If you ever want tailored workouts let me know.
robanga
macrumors 68000
Maybe the " real market price " of unlimited access to the internet on many devices:
TV
Multiple laptops and computers on a network at home
Xbox's and PS3's
iPhones
iPads
Should be something like $120-$200 per month. ( Oh wait...thats what I pay). At least all the providers should compete for that business on that basis.
Don't steal data, don't steal movies etc.
TV
Multiple laptops and computers on a network at home
Xbox's and PS3's
iPhones
iPads
Should be something like $120-$200 per month. ( Oh wait...thats what I pay). At least all the providers should compete for that business on that basis.
Don't steal data, don't steal movies etc.
Mr. Chewbacca
macrumors 6502a
More to the point do you think it is fair for us to expect ATT to be able to let everyone use 8-10gb a month for 30.00 on the network they have? If the traffic gets to high they are going to have to take steps to reduce the traffic in addition to beefing up the network.
I liked the workouts a lot. We got lucky and found a gym within walking distance with an upstairs area that couldnt be better for p90x. I didnt like cooking so much.
Thats a lot of running! One problem with being a big guy is no matter how good or bad of shape youre in your knees still suck 😱 O'well
Thanks for the workout offer!
I liked the workouts a lot. We got lucky and found a gym within walking distance with an upstairs area that couldnt be better for p90x. I didnt like cooking so much.
Thats a lot of running! One problem with being a big guy is no matter how good or bad of shape youre in your knees still suck 😱 O'well
Thanks for the workout offer!
KidStallyn
macrumors 6502
$30/month per device is totally fair IMHO. Look at it this way. How many millions of phones has just the iPhone sold that's on the network. Let's just say theirs 30 million iPhones activated. That's $900 million per month of revenue. Now, putting hardware and software in place is a one time fee for development, acquisition, and installation. Sure it's going to be in the billions when you consider doing it nationwide, but those are fixed costs. ATT is making almost $1 billion per month, on just the iPhone alone. That should be more then enough to put up a network that can handle unlimited data for a smartphone with today's technologies.
robanga
macrumors 68000
Is that iPhone revenue or profit on the $1B per month month?
Also we really have no idea what a network that "handles maximum usage most of the time" actually costs. So what they can afford and still return a reasonable EPS for investors is a bit more of an open question.
Our roads are mainly free from a usage standpoint, but they would crumble if everyone decided to use them at once and at maximum frequency.
mdlooker
macrumors 65816
ATT can't seem to find my original contract that I signed. It's not online in my profile as I changed my calling plan about a month ago so that contract summary is the only thing there. The guy spent a good 10 min in total trying to find previous contracts but couldn't do it.
Sooo if that's the case, where is my original contract that I signed that said I agree not to teather? I mean I don't care about it enough to fight the system at this point but where is my original contract? All it says online is when my current contract ends but no other original information. Do they keep paper records for a year or more?
Sooo if that's the case, where is my original contract that I signed that said I agree not to teather? I mean I don't care about it enough to fight the system at this point but where is my original contract? All it says online is when my current contract ends but no other original information. Do they keep paper records for a year or more?