AT&T is just milking their profits from the iPhone and not caring a single bit for their customers. It is rediculous that they can't upgrade their 3G service when multiple carriers are launching 4G service. AT&T SUCKS!!!. I hope this lawsuit cost them everything they made off the iPhone plus more.
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Are you insane?! MORE government regulation?! Please LESS! Government is the problem, NOT the solution. Socialism is a failure, unless you're poor and dumb thinking government is Santa Claus.
Bring back the liberty.
Bring back the liberty.
What planet do you live on where edge coverage is faster than their 3G? Perhaps you meant something else.
LOL. AT&T is hardly my favorite company, but Verizon is so much worse. At best they can claim more coverage. Their slimy business practices more than make up for any perceived advantage in the network. I'm glad to be rid of them and I'll never, ever go back.
yeah, my thoughts exactly. love the iphone, can't wait to use it on a network with reasonable coverage. can't tell you how many dropped calls I've had in major cities and places I go a lot. totally sucks, and it's not apples fault.
(AT&T) Telephone Company Is Arm of Government, Feds Admit in Spy Suit
If this doesn't alarm you...
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/10/att-doj-foia/
Telephone Company Is Arm of Government, Feds Admit in Spy Suit
By Ryan Singel October 8, 2009 | 8:24 pm | Categories: NSA
AT&T was the first of many telcos sued for helping the NSA spy on Americans
without warrants
The Department of Justice has finally admitted it in court papers: The nation's
telecom companies are an arm of the government at least when it comes to
secret spying.
Fortunately, a judge says that relationship isn't enough to quash a rights
group's open records request for communications between the nation's telecoms
and the feds.
The Electronic Frontier Foundation wanted to see what role telecom lobbying of
the Justice Department played when the government began its year-long, and
ultimately successful, push to win retroactive immunity for AT&T and others
being sued for unlawfully spying on American citizens.
The feds argued that the documents showing consultation over the controversial
telecom immunity proposal weren't subject to the Freedom of Information Act
since they were protected as "intra-agency" records:
"The communications between the agencies and telecommunications companies
regarding the immunity provisions of the proposed legislation have been regarded
as intra-agency because the government and the companies have a common interest
in the defense of the pending litigation and the communications regarding the
immunity provisions concerned that common interest."
U.S. District Court Judge Jeffery White disagreed and ruled on September 24 that
the feds had to release the names of the telecom employees that contacted the
Justice Department and the White House to lobby for a get-out-of-court-free
card.
"Here, the telecommunications companies communicated with the government to
ensure that Congress would pass legislation to grant them immunity from legal
liability for their participation in the surveillance," White wrote. "Those
documents are not protected from disclosure because the companies communicated
with the government agencies "with their own interests in mind," rather than
the agency's interests."
The feds were supposed to make the documents available Friday, but in a motion
late Thursday, the Obama administration is asking for a 30-day emergency stay
(.pdf):
http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/foia_C0705278/Emergency stay motion.final.pdf
so it can file a further appeal.
Read more at the EFF's blog.
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/10/judge-brushes-government-delay-attempts-clearing-w
If this doesn't alarm you...
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/10/att-doj-foia/
Telephone Company Is Arm of Government, Feds Admit in Spy Suit
By Ryan Singel October 8, 2009 | 8:24 pm | Categories: NSA
AT&T was the first of many telcos sued for helping the NSA spy on Americans
without warrants
The Department of Justice has finally admitted it in court papers: The nation's
telecom companies are an arm of the government at least when it comes to
secret spying.
Fortunately, a judge says that relationship isn't enough to quash a rights
group's open records request for communications between the nation's telecoms
and the feds.
The Electronic Frontier Foundation wanted to see what role telecom lobbying of
the Justice Department played when the government began its year-long, and
ultimately successful, push to win retroactive immunity for AT&T and others
being sued for unlawfully spying on American citizens.
The feds argued that the documents showing consultation over the controversial
telecom immunity proposal weren't subject to the Freedom of Information Act
since they were protected as "intra-agency" records:
"The communications between the agencies and telecommunications companies
regarding the immunity provisions of the proposed legislation have been regarded
as intra-agency because the government and the companies have a common interest
in the defense of the pending litigation and the communications regarding the
immunity provisions concerned that common interest."
U.S. District Court Judge Jeffery White disagreed and ruled on September 24 that
the feds had to release the names of the telecom employees that contacted the
Justice Department and the White House to lobby for a get-out-of-court-free
card.
"Here, the telecommunications companies communicated with the government to
ensure that Congress would pass legislation to grant them immunity from legal
liability for their participation in the surveillance," White wrote. "Those
documents are not protected from disclosure because the companies communicated
with the government agencies "with their own interests in mind," rather than
the agency's interests."
The feds were supposed to make the documents available Friday, but in a motion
late Thursday, the Obama administration is asking for a 30-day emergency stay
(.pdf):
http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/foia_C0705278/Emergency stay motion.final.pdf
so it can file a further appeal.
Read more at the EFF's blog.
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/10/judge-brushes-government-delay-attempts-clearing-w
Verizion Shouldnt be trouting there 3G service I lived in NJ and TN both places I was lucky to get 2-3 bars on a good day my dad has had a iPhone 3G and a 3GS and has had good realiablity with ATT. Verizon may trout they have the most coverage but clearly not the best.
I find the adds extremely misleading to say the least. I had version when I lived in CT and, for a short time after I moved to MO. Needless to say I had more dropped calls and dead zones in both states on versions network than I ever have experienced on AT&T. As for data I simply could not afford to use it on versions network let alone the fact that if I where using the data network I could not take a phone call
The ad leads people to think AT&T has no coverage in the white spaces, and let's be honest - Verizon probably intended that message all along, even if they didn't actually say it. All you have to do to see who's in the right here is look at the fact that Verizon already changed the ad.
Well, I do partly blame Apple. This is why I officially(After my eBay auction ends tonight) do not own any Macs or iPhones. After being exclusively Apple for 10 years. Apple chose to enter this exclusive contract knowing the risks involved. No one company can be the best for every customer in the US. They should allow the open market to choose which carrier they wish to use their iPhone on, but it is all about money. Although, I truly believe if you could use the iPHone on more networks they would have sold many more. JMO!!!!
He's right Verizion is sluggish and low quailty if you read my post right now im in a big city area or close to it and even in Nashvile i still get 1-2 bars of 3G on Verizon.
I'm waiting for AT&T to file a complaint against its customers for stating that their network sucks.
These commercials are on all the time, and they clearly state that they are talking about 3G, and anyone who can't figure that out when they say "3G coverage" over and over probably doesn't know what 3G is, and probably has a cell phone that still says Cingular on it.
Like others have said Verizon considers most of their data network "3g". Even if in fact its slower than ATT Edge. So what Verizon says in the commercial is correct but misleading.
I just don't understand how people think this commercial is misleading. They clearly state that they are comparing 3G networks, and above and beyond that anyone that ownes a freaking smart phone should know that AT&T would have more service than just 3G. Some people are just stupid. Just looking to get this ad off the air because AT&T sucks so bad. I guarantee if Apple drops them you will see their 3G service increase then because they do not have the iPhone to live on. REDONKULOUS!!!!
Actually, he's not wrong. It CAN be.
My iPhone 3G is faster than my partners. She is on O2 3G and I'm unlocked on Orange, but using Edge. If we place our phones next to eachother and load a web page at the same time, the Orange UK edge network trumps the O2 3G network by a good few seconds! (I was suprised too!)
Oh cool, I'm an anarchist too. Those who get ripped off by corporate america, must deserve it.
I am in hermitage right out side of nashville currently and i get about half full strength 3g on verizon. But here is the kicker you leave the city by 10 miles in all directions and ATT becomes non existent where i still have 2 bars out of 4 EVDO. This is a simple example ATT has not rolled there 3g out at all when compared to verizon. True i can not surf and talk on verizon sure that is annoying but the fact i can make a call and not drop it or start a data session and it works is a statement of QOS (quality of service) Sure it is not 2 megabit which i can get on my iphone out in green hills but i have it where i need it where ATT just does not and that is what is important and that these ads are targeting. If you never leave a major city ATT and Verizon are dead equal.
the second i heard "there's a map for this" on tv, i got mad.
vz overdid it and they got what they deserved from that. i'd b surprised if at&t had NOT taken action against them.
for the record, i am an at&t customer, not an iPhone user, but i have zero complaints against my service. it has been a dramatic improvement from my last carrier, t-mobile
vz overdid it and they got what they deserved from that. i'd b surprised if at&t had NOT taken action against them.
for the record, i am an at&t customer, not an iPhone user, but i have zero complaints against my service. it has been a dramatic improvement from my last carrier, t-mobile
They should take that money they're using to sue Apple and put it towards making their network not suck.