They make up for corporate voice discounts by charging more for data...
You are using it to access a company server, hence a company data plan is required.
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They make up for corporate voice discounts by charging more for data...
You are using it to access a company server, hence a company data plan is required.
Once again, I do not get a corporate discount because this is my personal phone. My name is on the bill and the phone was/will be purchased by me. I have been able to access my Exchange server with every other phone I have owned at no additional cost why should the iPhone be differnet?
Well that's crappy - at least be glad you can take it off your taxes... It's not much but at least it's something...
I have to agree. If I was Steve Jobs, I would quit, enjoy myself, not have to listen to the constant whine, and let the masses have their Razrs and Blackberries.
No good deed goes unpunished!Unless you're an independent contractor (and could write it off as Section 179 expense), the only way to do that would be to declare it an 'unreimbursed employee expense'. I need to see if even that would be legit.
On the other hand, since I refused a company cellphone (didn't want to have two), I may be able to get the company to let me expense the $15/month difference for the enterprise data plan. If I quit I won't need it anyway, and can change to a personal ($30) data plan.
It still sucks donkey, though.
It's totally legit - I did it last year with my iPhone. I needed a phone that could get e-mail so I took off both the cost of the phone and the monthly fee since I also needed to be able to stay in contact with the people I was working with (you can only take 1 number off the taxes tho, whatever line you use for work). Of course that's probably pushing it but I'm still on solid ground as far as the IRS is concerned...
It seemed to me you were dismissing GPS as a driving aid (I mean GPS in general and not the associated expense of upgrading to the iPhone 3G from your first-gen iPhone) out of hand and I responded that GPS does have value.What are you talking about???? Maybe you should read my entire comment instead of just cherry-picking one sentence. Here it is for you:
[SNIP]
If you read my whole comment, you would find that I already have an iPhone, and am not talking about a paper map. Where did you pull that assumption out of? Great analogy, by the way, with the calculator and the big numbers. That makes it all clear to me
P.S. The current Google Maps App does have a 'Directions' feature that provides turn-by-turn directions.
Why did you bother to cherry-pick that one sentence anyway? What are you trying to prove? I don't get it.
If cell tower triangulation is precise enough for you, you didn't explicitly say so in the comment to which I replied.
Family plan with corporate discount
I know I'll eventually need to call at&t regarding this question but, until they get their story straight (hopefully before the 11th), I'm not going to waste my time on the phone with them.
I'm currently on a 3 year old family plan with my wife and neither of us have iPhones. We pay $60 for the first line and $10 for the second for a total of $70 before taxes and fees. The company I work for gives me 23% off my monthly bill but that only applies to the $60 line (so little less than $14 off). So it roughly comes to: $60 (line 1) + $10 (line 2) - $14 (discount) + $10 (tax) = $66
I guess in the past, even if you had a family plan there was always one line that costs $60 or more and then the second line was the $10 one. The first two lines were treated separately and my discount only applied to the primary line. However, it seems that now a "family plan" by default includes two lines grouped under one price for both of those lines. If I sign up for the $130 two-iPhone family plan, it will incur one flat price for two lines which is all the lines we need. If that's the case, and it turns out that corporate discounts do apply, then the only number to apply my 23% off discount to is the $130 amount. That's a savings of almost $30! It's like getting one of the iPhone data packages or unlimited text messaging for my wife and I for free.
Does that make sense and is that how you think the discount on a current iPhone family plan would work? With my plan I have now it seems that the difference between the primary line and the secondary line is the unequal price as well as the designation on my account. But with the new iPhone family plan, it seems that the difference between the primary line and the secondary line is only the designation in at&t's system.
Help me out here, as I've been going back and forth since WWDC
I know I'll eventually need to call at&t regarding this question but, until they get their story straight (hopefully before the 11th), I'm not going to waste my time on the phone with them.
I'm currently on a 3 year old family plan with my wife and neither of us have iPhones. We pay $60 for the first line and $10 for the second for a total of $70 before taxes and fees. The company I work for gives me 23% off my monthly bill but that only applies to the $60 line (so little less than $14 off). So it roughly comes to: $60 (line 1) + $10 (line 2) - $14 (discount) + $10 (tax) = $66
I guess in the past, even if you had a family plan there was always one line that costs $60 or more and then the second line was the $10 one. The first two lines were treated separately and my discount only applied to the primary line. However, it seems that now a "family plan" by default includes two lines grouped under one price for both of those lines. If I sign up for the $130 two-iPhone family plan, it will incur one flat price for two lines which is all the lines we need. If that's the case, and it turns out that corporate discounts do apply, then the only number to apply my 23% off discount to is the $130 amount. That's a savings of almost $30! It's like getting one of the iPhone data packages or unlimited text messaging for my wife and I for free.
Does that make sense and is that how you think the discount on a current iPhone family plan would work? With my plan I have now it seems that the difference between the primary line and the secondary line is the unequal price as well as the designation on my account. But with the new iPhone family plan, it seems that the difference between the primary line and the secondary line is only the designation in at&t's system.
Help me out here, as I've been going back and forth since WWDC
*sigh*
Third time's a charm I hope? Here it is again:
Tell me again where I talk about driving in my comment?
I think my comment about the Google Maps App being awesome is pretty much a thumbs up from me regarding cell tower triangulation.
Why am I wasting my time on you? I must be really really bored. Time to play with my calculator to multiply some big numbers......
Just talked to ATT store manager
I swung into the ATT store across from my work and spoke with the manager. He said he just had a conference call discussing the SMS issues.
He said flat out that there will be more options for SMS on family share.... not just $30.... he also said I can simply keep my plan intact and they will increase the $20 iphone tax to $30. Currently I pay $10 for 1500 sms and Im on a family share plan, but with only one iphone.
Anyway, I went from about to be in a rage to completely back to acceptable. Though I do agree it's not super for everyone.
I swung into the ATT store across from my work and spoke with the manager. He said he just had a conference call discussing the SMS issues.
He said flat out that there will be more options for SMS on family share.... not just $30.... he also said I can simply keep my plan intact and they will increase the $20 iphone tax to $30. Currently I pay $10 for 1500 sms and Im on a family share plan, but with only one iphone.
Anyway, I went from about to be in a rage to completely back to acceptable. Though I do agree it's not super for everyone.
Just talked to ATT store manager
I swung into the ATT store across from my work and spoke with the manager. He said he just had a conference call discussing the SMS issues.
He said flat out that there will be more options for SMS on family share.... not just $30.... he also said I can simply keep my plan intact and they will increase the $20 iphone tax to $30. He did say I would lose the 200 sms a month from the old iphone. Currently I pay $10 for 1500 sms and Im on a family share plan, but with only one iphone.
Anyway, I went from about to be in a rage to completely back to acceptable. Though I do agree it's not super for everyone.
**sorry for the double post, browser glitch
I swung into the ATT store across from my work and spoke with the manager. He said he just had a conference call discussing the SMS issues.
He said flat out that there will be more options for SMS on family share.... not just $30.... he also said I can simply keep my plan intact and they will increase the $20 iphone tax to $30. He did say I would lose the 200 sms a month from the old iphone. Currently I pay $10 for 1500 sms and Im on a family share plan, but with only one iphone.
Anyway, I went from about to be in a rage to completely back to acceptable. Though I do agree it's not super for everyone.
**sorry for the double post, browser glitch
Sorry if this has already been covered. I haven't read the 600+ messages. Do you guys see the same thing as me? .20 cents per text message? So I can send 200 text messages for 40 cents right? That's $0.40. That's an incredible deal. I don't know why anybody would buy a texting plan in that case.
Haha, sweet.
We'll actually be saving $80 over those 2 years!!
Here's how:
Current iPhone: $400
Current Plan: $80/month
New iPhone (8gb): $200
New Plan: $85/month
So if you take those extra $5, over 2 years, its gonna be $120
If i add the $120 to the price of the new iphone, it's gonna be:
iPhone: $320
Plan: $80/month (remember i took those extra 5, and added them to the price if the iPhone)
So i'l saving an extra $80 over those 2 years.
Haha, i love karma!!
We'll actually be saving $80 over those 2 years!!
Here's how:
Current iPhone: $400
Current Plan: $80/month
New iPhone (8gb): $200
New Plan: $85/month
So if you take those extra $5, over 2 years, its gonna be $120
If i add the $120 to the price of the new iphone, it's gonna be:
iPhone: $320
Plan: $80/month (remember i took those extra 5, and added them to the price if the iPhone)
So i'l saving an extra $80 over those 2 years.
Haha, i love karma!!
Lack of proof-reading!
That has to be a misprint. SMS is not going to be 1/5 of a cent.
That has to be a misprint. SMS is not going to be 1/5 of a cent.
I know I'll eventually need to call at&t regarding this question but, until they get their story straight (hopefully before the 11th), I'm not going to waste my time on the phone with them.
I'm currently on a 3 year old family plan with my wife and neither of us have iPhones. We pay $60 for the first line and $10 for the second for a total of $70 before taxes and fees. The company I work for gives me 23% off my monthly bill but that only applies to the $60 line (so little less than $14 off). So it roughly comes to: $60 (line 1) + $10 (line 2) - $14 (discount) + $10 (tax) = $66
I guess in the past, even if you had a family plan there was always one line that costs $60 or more and then the second line was the $10 one. The first two lines were treated separately and my discount only applied to the primary line. However, it seems that now a "family plan" by default includes two lines grouped under one price for both of those lines. If I sign up for the $130 two-iPhone family plan, it will incur one flat price for two lines which is all the lines we need. If that's the case, and it turns out that corporate discounts do apply, then the only number to apply my 23% off discount to is the $130 amount. That's a savings of almost $30! It's like getting one of the iPhone data packages or unlimited text messaging for my wife and I for free.
Does that make sense and is that how you think the discount on a current iPhone family plan would work? With my plan I have now it seems that the difference between the primary line and the secondary line is the unequal price as well as the designation on my account. But with the new iPhone family plan, it seems that the difference between the primary line and the secondary line is only the designation in at&t's system.
Help me out here, as I've been going back and forth since WWDC
Adding an iPhone will NOT change your current voice rate plan. You will only have to add the iPhone data plan. Just keep in mind to keep the discount you might want to keep the primary line a NON iphone to guarantee the discount will stay.
You're accessing a company mailserver, so it has to access the right ports, etc.
Buy the iPhone with the $30/month data plan, and try to set your server up on it. If it works, great, if not, you have to change it to the $45/month plan for it to work.
You need to go back to school and learn math.
Last time I checked (.2) * (200) = 40... AT&T said .20 cents per message. However, this is obviously a typo but there's nothing wrong with his math just with AT&T and typos.
Snarky? He just quoted AT&T's release - how is that being snarky?
Sure he could have figured out they made a typo but that's still AT&T's fault - not his...