Yes you can. However the iphone would have to be for that line. If you move the iphone to another line the data plan would no longer apply and you would generate usage charges.
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Yes you can. However the iphone would have to be for that line. If you move the iphone to another line the data plan would no longer apply and you would generate usage charges.
Agreed, but I am not telling people to go to Sprint, just that their services are cheaper... If I have I am truly sorry.
you have made a great point!
With my great deal on a marginally inferior phone, why should I upgrade and get hit in the shorts for it. 3G service is actually easier to service since it is more efficient as far as routers go for the cell towers, so the huge price increase for less is not really justified. I am staying with my slow 2G with free upgrade to the version 2.0 and paying much less for it. I am betting more iphone owners will opt to stay with there 2G version than upgrade once the nuts and bolts of the deal are examined. ATT had a great oppurtunity to evangilize there service and they blew it. Same packages plus $10 a month increase and they would have cornered the market and made there subsidy back. Now, they are placing downward pressure on demand when there are alternatives. I can get a unlocked iPhone from France, put a t-mobile card in it and be $40 to $50 cheaper per month quickly making up for the price difference in handsets. Remember also that the original iPhone was not subsidized, so the talk of waiting to upgrade does not fly. Shame on Apple and same as usual for ATT.
With my great deal on a marginally inferior phone, why should I upgrade and get hit in the shorts for it. 3G service is actually easier to service since it is more efficient as far as routers go for the cell towers, so the huge price increase for less is not really justified. I am staying with my slow 2G with free upgrade to the version 2.0 and paying much less for it. I am betting more iphone owners will opt to stay with there 2G version than upgrade once the nuts and bolts of the deal are examined. ATT had a great oppurtunity to evangilize there service and they blew it. Same packages plus $10 a month increase and they would have cornered the market and made there subsidy back. Now, they are placing downward pressure on demand when there are alternatives. I can get a unlocked iPhone from France, put a t-mobile card in it and be $40 to $50 cheaper per month quickly making up for the price difference in handsets. Remember also that the original iPhone was not subsidized, so the talk of waiting to upgrade does not fly. Shame on Apple and same as usual for ATT.
I think that falls under the same thing as tethering - if you want to strictly follow the rules you'll need to pony up the extra dough however there's no way they can kill the software that allows for VPN and Exchange access...
Of course you run the risk of getting caught (EXTREMELY unlikely) but I'd say for $15 a month it's worth the risk. The $45 is generally for those companies that 1) don't care that much about the rate they are paying and 2) take it off their taxes anyway.
Just think - it's an extra $15/month tax deduction!
Agreed, not trying to be an ****** but now that the comp is getting the right idea, there are somewhat better options for those that don't have an AT&T contract.
The other phones aren't nearly as nice, but when it comes down to what you have to spend to get the iPhone and keep it, those other phones don't look that bad.
Alright lets focus on the problem in hand here folks. When I go through the iReady process at an At&t store(opening acnt/credit check) can I then go to the apple store and get it? Whats apples pre-processes?
I've been a customer since the old ATT Wireless or "ATT Blue" days. I've got a family plan with unlimited MEdia Net (Unlimited data).
I've been doing this for a while and I haven't been "caught". In fact I told them this was exactly what I'd be doing when I signed up for data and texting to be added to my five year old family plan last year.
When you compare the rates I get with my old plan I've been grandfathered in with to the prices released today, it would take a $900 iPhone to break even after 1 year.
It's probably been mentioned somewhere in this thread but I guess this means the $175 early termination fee is gone.
I have to vent haha
I love Apple, have a macbook, iphone edge, shuffle (for running) I love the company and the products.
This being said, it hurts me a little to admit this but I hope I turn on the financial news July 12th and hear that Apple and AT&T didn't reach any goals and missed their target. I want them both to understand how much of a let down this really is. The iPhone 3G lacks a lot of "duH' things like picture messaging and copy and paste, and the new plan prices are dumb. I was beginning to get over my bitterness for the $10 increase for 3G but to jack up the text plans is uncalled for.
I consider myself to be a three city person, one near Cleveland OH for school, one in Western PA for living and working and one in SE Ohio for my parents house. Two of these cities do not have 3G, including my city of residence. So I will pay $10 more a month for 3G service I won't get WRONG
I currently have 1500 texts for $10 a month, which sucks because I only use 500-600 of them. And to have to pay $5 more a month for texts I don't use... WRONG
I know that Apple and AT&T are ultimately trying to appeal to new customers but man, those prices are steep. I would be very surprised if these sales go well especially with the economy the way it is. People are cutting back vacations, driving and food and they expect people to shell out $$$ for a phone?
If At&t and Apple see any sort of big sales its going to because business are buying them for workers thanks to the new enterprise software.
GPS, not a necessity, triangulation works for me! Just go buy a TomTom One they are like $200 and last you forever! without montly bills!
There's my rant, I'm sticking with my iPhone Edge... I love the aluminum and the cheaper monthly bill.
I'll sit this year out and wait for the next one.
I love Apple, have a macbook, iphone edge, shuffle (for running) I love the company and the products.
This being said, it hurts me a little to admit this but I hope I turn on the financial news July 12th and hear that Apple and AT&T didn't reach any goals and missed their target. I want them both to understand how much of a let down this really is. The iPhone 3G lacks a lot of "duH' things like picture messaging and copy and paste, and the new plan prices are dumb. I was beginning to get over my bitterness for the $10 increase for 3G but to jack up the text plans is uncalled for.
I consider myself to be a three city person, one near Cleveland OH for school, one in Western PA for living and working and one in SE Ohio for my parents house. Two of these cities do not have 3G, including my city of residence. So I will pay $10 more a month for 3G service I won't get WRONG
I currently have 1500 texts for $10 a month, which sucks because I only use 500-600 of them. And to have to pay $5 more a month for texts I don't use... WRONG
I know that Apple and AT&T are ultimately trying to appeal to new customers but man, those prices are steep. I would be very surprised if these sales go well especially with the economy the way it is. People are cutting back vacations, driving and food and they expect people to shell out $$$ for a phone?
If At&t and Apple see any sort of big sales its going to because business are buying them for workers thanks to the new enterprise software.
GPS, not a necessity, triangulation works for me! Just go buy a TomTom One they are like $200 and last you forever! without montly bills!
There's my rant, I'm sticking with my iPhone Edge... I love the aluminum and the cheaper monthly bill.
I'll sit this year out and wait for the next one.
Since you two are trying to think of ways to get an old iPhone contract in order to qualify for subsidized pricing on the new one, I assume each of you currently has an AT&T contract with a subsidized phone (that's not an iPhone, obviously). You would have to terminate that contract, and pay the ETF, to get a contract for an old iPhone — there's no way around it.
I can't imagine that a wireless phone service provider would dissuade its pay-as-you-go customers from signing a contract for postpaid service. EDIT: Are you using a GoPhone SIM with an unlocked iPhone? Not that it makes a difference, I'm just curious.
Assuming you can commit to memory a map and the directions to a location you've never been to (so you don't become a menace to other drivers when you take your eyes off the road to consult a map and written directions), a GPS device would nonetheless make the task easier for you. Do you refuse to use a calculator because you can multiply large numbers yourself with a pencil and paper?
It is rumored that the iPhone's ETF will be $200-$300...
And yes, you will need the new iPhone 3G Voice and Data plan - no using older plans.
Welcome to the new AT&T....
One upside
Think of all the deals on 1st gen iPhones from the upgraders. I wonder if they will be eligible for the old iPhone plans? If so, that makes them the best deal around IMO.
Think of all the deals on 1st gen iPhones from the upgraders. I wonder if they will be eligible for the old iPhone plans? If so, that makes them the best deal around IMO.
Enterprise data vs. Personal data trap
Hello everyone first time posting here. Anyway, I have been following the iPhone 3G saga on these forums for a while now and have decided to start posting because I have some information that some of you may not know. I and many other many people have been asking if Microsoft Activsync would be available using the 30$ data plan vs the 45$ plan. Sadly, I have spoken with a network specialist at AT&T today and was told, without a doubt, that only POP3 and IMAP accounts are going to be able to be accessed with the 30$ plan. If you want any type of Exchange support than you will have to shell out for the 45$ plan. I am sorry, but I have to call foul here. I am paying AT&T for unlimited data so what difference should it make how often I am synching over the air? This is really upsetting to me because Exchange support is the one thing in firmware 2.0 that I have been dying for. I am pushing all my emails from Outlook>Yahoo>iPhone currently, but it's just not the same. Has anyone else heard similar news? Please tell me you have heard something conflicting and give me a ray of hope.
Hello everyone first time posting here. Anyway, I have been following the iPhone 3G saga on these forums for a while now and have decided to start posting because I have some information that some of you may not know. I and many other many people have been asking if Microsoft Activsync would be available using the 30$ data plan vs the 45$ plan. Sadly, I have spoken with a network specialist at AT&T today and was told, without a doubt, that only POP3 and IMAP accounts are going to be able to be accessed with the 30$ plan. If you want any type of Exchange support than you will have to shell out for the 45$ plan. I am sorry, but I have to call foul here. I am paying AT&T for unlimited data so what difference should it make how often I am synching over the air? This is really upsetting to me because Exchange support is the one thing in firmware 2.0 that I have been dying for. I am pushing all my emails from Outlook>Yahoo>iPhone currently, but it's just not the same. Has anyone else heard similar news? Please tell me you have heard something conflicting and give me a ray of hope.
Since you two are trying to think of ways to get an old iPhone contract in order to qualify for subsidized pricing on the new one, I assume each of you currently has an AT&T contract with a subsidized phone (that's not an iPhone, obviously). You would have to terminate that contract, and pay the ETF, to get a contract for an old iPhone there's no way around it.
so even if i get an old iphone for free i still have to terminate my contract and pay the ETF to get a contract for the old one? that doesnt make sense.
Settle down there buddy.
So if I gave you money off a product, and you signed a 2yr agreement to be my customer as a stipulation of said money off with the knowledge that you cannot get money off a future product until X-amount of time has passed, you think I should eat some $$$ so that you can get a new product, thus not abiding by your end of the agreement?
See how silly that sounds? The only exception for this should be if you joined AT&T and happened to activate some phone you purchased, a phone that's unlocked that you wanted to activate or if you have a 1G iPhone. Since AT&T did not give you any money off these phones, you have no obligation to them and should then be eligible to receive money off if you sign a new 2yr agreement.
Yes Jobs did put it like "Hey, everyone no matter what will get it for $199!" but when more details surfaced on the pricing structure, I can't be "mad" at Jobs. This is the way the cellphone industry currently works.
As far as I know, any 3G smartphone would have to pay $30/mo for data, the iPhone is no exception. They spent countless $$$ on upgrading several markets to 3G and want to recoup their investment.
With that said, I'm still on the lam about getting the new 3G since text messages are not included. Paying an extra $15/mo than I currently am seems a little steep but if I know I can customize my iPhone 3G the way I can currently customize my iPhone, than I may be willing to bite the bullet as I am a heavy data user and rent a lot of cars, hence the GPS would effen pwn.
Since you two are trying to think of ways to get an old iPhone contract in order to qualify for subsidized pricing on the new one, I assume each of you currently has an AT&T contract with a subsidized phone (that's not an iPhone, obviously). You would have to terminate that contract, and pay the ETF, to get a contract for an old iPhone there's no way around it.
I wouldn't necessarily think that's true. Since the original iPhone wasn't subsidized and their system only shows what phone you have now (view other posters who bought an iPhone as little as 2 months ago even tho they were still under a subsidized phone) it might be possible. However, that being said, if you go into an AT&T store and they bring up your history they may get wise to what you're doing - I would suggest going to an Apple store as they are 1) less likely to give a crap since they are Apple employees, not AT&T employees and 2) might not have access to your entire phone history - only what you have right now and if you're eligible (and as their rules specifically state if you have an EDGE iPhone you are eligible).
Whose Exchange server are you using?
MS charges our company extra per seat per month for Exchange Mobile, hence we go with Blackberry Enterprise instead (less per seat per month).
There is a license fee as well on the server side in addition to added fee from AT&T for using data to access your company's internet.
I just confirmed the same thing. I'm very unhappy about this. If I can only do that over wifi, I might as well get an iPod touch.
Yes it does.
All iPhone activations with AT&T REQUIRE a 2 year contract, subsidized or not...
You can transfer your old AT&T phone number and extend your contract 2 years from iPhone activation if you want.
It is rumored that the iPhone's ETF will be $200-$300...
Their pricing is still out of whack then. All I have to do is sign up for a new contract then terminate it immediately and I still save about $150. (If they don't charge me for the first month than I save about $300).
How is this possible? I can use 3G devices on my old unlimited data plan now. I'll just get an unlocked 3G iPhone.
lol, sadly, that would be a great deal compared to what they charge for iPhone if you click on the links there (sorry if this has already been posted, haven't had time to read the whole thread yet).
OMG!
What? Those prices are for *NEW* customers. If you're an existing customer your voice plan isn't going to change 1 lick - I believe arn addressed that somewhere in this insanely long thread. They are just going to up your data fee and your text messaging fee (depending on what you've got right now).