Thanks. Uk is where I go most often so that is useful. However already activated it on ATT. I guess I need a new Apple nano-sim then.
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AT&T Locking Apple Interchangeable SIMs in iPad Air 2 and iPad Mini 3 [Updated]
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Thanks. Uk is where I go most often so that is useful. However already activated it on ATT. I guess I need a new Apple nano-sim then.
According to TUAW, Apple has stated that customers with Apple SIMs locked to AT&T can switch to another carrier after *purchasing* a new Apple SIM from an Apple Retail Store: http://www.tuaw.com/2014/10/24/apple-and-atandt-confirm-atandt-locks-down-apple-sim-cards-to-their/
Big disappointment if it turns out to be true.
Edit: Here's the Apple Support document: big disappointment. I wonder how much they'll charge for a new Apple SIM? https://support.apple.com/kb/HT6499
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That's not what the Apple Support document on the subject indicates:
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT6499
AT&T's reason has nothing to do with the user. No corporation ever thinks of users. Their rationale is to add an extra barrier to carrier jumpers in the hope that people will just give up and continue paying AT&T instead of buying a new SIM card, tinkering with their SIM door and tray. A push button switching solution is a lot easier than a hardware solution.
T-Mobile's 5gb for 5 months for only $10 had me more suspicious
Is that for already existing phone customers?
Or new iPad customers?
What's the fine print on it (can I use 5GB a month for $10 and keep refilling?)...
I don't have that offer on my iPad 4 (I'm currently using the free 200MB a month on T-Mobile plan).
Gary
I went through something similar, though for not as long and only at Verizon. One of the guys there was very willing to try to help while another salesman insisted that there was a specific Verizon model no that Apple sold me an iPad not compatible with their network. I insisted that the iPad should be compatible and he tried a Verizon sim and it worked flawlessly. The apple sim is just a standard nano sim and can be replaced with one from another carrier. Hope this helps.
Mine works on Verizon. You have to remove the apple sim and put in one from verizon. But what you said is what verizon told me. Not sure if it is what they are training their employees or where it is coming from, but there is no difference in the iPad.
OK Guys, you are all overreacting. I just took my 128GB Air 2 over to my local AT&T store to add it to my existing account. I said to them I didn't want to use my AppleSim because they lock it to their network in case I wanted to use it elsewhere. They said no problem and activated another sim and added it to my account for free without any activation fee. I was in and out in 10 minutes. I will now hold onto my AppleSim in case I need to use a different network when I travel.
Sheeeeesh
Sheeeeesh
nothing changed here, you still can use any sim you want, you have additional sim now, which allow to switch between carriers, but it is your choice which sim to use.
A new sim will be $5.
Doesn't this is still defeats the point of the Apple Sim?
I thought part of the idea was that you could change carriers at anytime (When overseas for example) without having to get a prepaid sim, you just change carriers (E.g from t-mobile to EE if you visit the UK...)
What a stupid idea by AT&T...
It's a limited time offer. I just bought it, and it's a great deal!
Does anyone know when the deal expires? Can I buy multiple plans and use the later?
I bet it's only for iPad Air 2 customers? I've never had T-Mobile so it could also mean new customers only.
Yeah, this is the kind of crap that caused me to leave AT&T and not even consider Verizon and go straight to T-Mobile. It feels like a breath of fresh air.
No. Devices just can't be locked. This is just a SIM card. Just like every phone right now, they all have specific network SIM cards. Not sure why people are freaking out since the device is still unlocked. If you are going to another network from AT&T, it most likely wouldn't be for coverage issues, so there's no need to have one that you don't have to take out. The only bad part is for people that might go to the UK. They would have to make sure not to lose their SIM. I don't know why AT&T didn't just let everyone else use it instead of locking it. Jerks.
Rite-Aid disabled NFC?! Damn....Is this store wide policy? I'll have to check at my local rite-aid, family and friends works there and I am always there.
I'm still pissed only 1/3 of my cards even works with Apple Pay :/ of course my bank said they'll be supported by the end of the month according to someone its still kind of disappointing. Yup. It wouldn't be capitalism if it didn't happen!
Apple should tell them to follow the rules or GTFO.....but they won't...Apple has always had a special relationship with AT&T...even now they do very subtle business gestures for AT&T...
You can still just stick in a regular SIM from another carrier and it should work. Carriers provides SIMs for free. At least Verizon does. I guess if you want to go from AT&T to Sprint or T-Mobile and plan on visiting the UK you could get a new Apple SIM so you wouldn't have to worry about losing it on the trip.
Yeah I feel ya but my house is swaps between 1bar of HSPA and 3 bars of EDGE and theres a few major towns in my area that only have GPRS.....I live in a part of Upstate NY where there are a ton of hills and even Verizon and AT&T have choppy signals in certain areas where the country turns into a small (but populated) town (on a US Route too)
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I can also confirm that personal hotspot is available on any of T-Mobile's plans! With AT&T I had to pay for the $50 dollar plan to have that option!
Apple should make it abundantly clear so that we customers know to select either T-Mobile or Sprint. AT&T and Verizon are going to lose out big-time!
I was always told when speaking to at&t service personnel, they have their system set as a one-and-done system, so you can't activate a SIM more than once on their system. This was apparently from the precursor to Cingular due to the large amounts of fraud and cloning they had when they first started. The system will only every allow a SIM to be activated once.
I doubt it. Sprint and T-Mobile don't come close to matching AT&T and Verizon coverage.
First, you have no idea why AT&T actually chose to do this and you are simply speculating, just as others have offered a more rational speculation that this is likely due to their security model. I think it's a dumb business move on their part to be lazy and only support what the have already existing for on-device activation without updating their network to fully support this. However as others have pointed out, it's their network and if you don't want to have your ($5) AppleSIM tied to your AT&T account you shouldn't choose to activate it on their network. If you still want to use AT&T but not tie the AppleSIM to your AT&T account you can simply go to an AT&T corporate store and pickup one of their nanoSIMs and use that to activate your iPad.
Lastly, are you going to provide evidence or even a possible source for your libelous claims that Verizon and AT&T are colluding? I'm guessing you don't but please do tell where you got your information from.
-PopinFRESH
You are correct, and this is most likely the reason. It's still lazy on AT&T's part not to update their system to support Apple's implementation, but I'm not surprised they didn't. I was actually surprised when they were on the list when this was discovered. This is really where the bonehead business move comes into play. They should have simply done the same thing as Verizon and said to activate the new iPads you will need to use your existing AT&T nanoSIM or come into a store to get a new nanoSIM. They should have also explained WHY, and that it's tied to their security model.
Instead they decided to half support a feature which just makes them look like they are being petty, and then they have their PR department clueless on explaining why.
-PopinFRESH