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I don't see why they think they should do this.... Everywhere around the world is not limited and all phones are unlocked like it should be. Has anyone tried to get there phones unlocked by AT&T? and How much trouble have they given you?
 
AT&T's strategy: never miss an opportunity to screw the customer, just because we can. To all those considering switching to T-Mobile: I did this last year and it's the best thing I ever did. Cheaper, better coverage, better speeds, and it's the only company in the US to offer an unlimited, unthrottled LTE data plan (Sprint has zero LTE coverage in the San Francisco/San Jose area)
 
so how much is a new Apple SIM going to cost?

Yes, that is my question -- actually, 1) will Apple make them available and 2) at what price.

Does ATT give out free SIMs? I might try and see if they will give or sell me one. I really don't want to "burn" the universal one as I'm going to London next year and it will come in handy.
 
What does this mean ? :confused:

Verizon, the fourth major carrier in the United States, did not opt to allow the Apple SIM to work with its network.

And yeah, AT&T can go suck a donkey's _ _ _ _ !!!!
 
(Sprint has zero LTE coverage in the San Francisco/San Jose area)

That is 100% false. Almost every Sprint site in the SF/SJ area has LTE enabled on it. I'd say 95% of them, at a glance. Which is probably close to T-Mobile's saturation there as well. Please edit your post!

Source: S4GRU.com site map, updated with new information as of this morning.
 
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AT&T's strategy: never miss an opportunity to screw the customer, just because we can. To all those considering switching to T-Mobile: I did this last year and it's the best thing I ever did. Cheaper, better coverage, better speeds, and it's the only company in the US to offer an unlimited, unthrottled LTE data plan (Sprint has zero LTE coverage in the San Francisco/San Jose area)

not entirely true. we considered going with tmo as a replacement for our overpriced local broadband. they started throttling our "unlimited" data after about 15GB (we use about 30-50 a month). It was still usable but there was a noticeable speed degradation.
 
How did Apple allow this?

I just this year received a settlement over a somewhat similar issue originating with the first, 2010 iPad. And now they're at it again. From Apple's iPad Air 2 page, just now:

The Apple SIM gives you the flexibility to choose from a variety of short-term plans from select carriers in the U.S. and UK right on your iPad. So whenever you need it, you can choose the plan that works best for you — with no long-term commitments.
(Emphasis mine.)

No long-term commitments other than the locked SIM....
 
It gets worse

The AT&T sim card will permanently deactivate if not used for a 60 day period after activation. You then are forced to put a new one in your iPad and reactivate it. It was this way for the Air1 and Mini2 and it's obvious that AT&T wants to lock the card to AT&T so they can still deactivate it if not used for a 60 day period.

edit: I got the information from http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2013...-compared.html but was unable to find it in the AT&T plan terms so I'm not sure now.

better coverage

I really like T-Mobile (and use it) but the coverage is still poor compared to AT&T and Verizon. In my case, I might be forced to switch from T-Mobile to AT&T because I can't get connectivity in many places I travel :(.
 
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Wasn't there a ruling recently that they can no longer do this?

Actually, it's worse. They used to sell you devices that were locked, and they have to unlock them now (for a fee). However, in this case the customer bought an unlocked iPad and AT&T seems to be locking it, if these reports are right. I would consider that to be property damage.
 
not entirely true. we considered going with tmo as a replacement for our overpriced local broadband. they started throttling our "unlimited" data after about 15GB (we use about 30-50 a month). It was still usable but there was a noticeable speed degradation.


They do not throttle on unlimited plans I have 4 phones on my account that regularly use over 20GB each a month with no problems
 
Locking the sim doesn't then seem to be much of a deterrent to keep customers from using another carrier when they want. These sims are just a few bucks arn't they?

But customers can blame AT&T for the waste of time in having to drive to, park, wait in line, etc. at store the second sim

I see this as a lose - lose for at&t.
 
Yes, that is my question -- actually, 1) will Apple make them available and 2) at what price.

Does ATT give out free SIMs? I might try and see if they will give or sell me one. I really don't want to "burn" the universal one as I'm going to London next year and it will come in handy.

I have two or three SIMs from ATT for free.

I don't know if it matters but they are used in GoPhone (pay per use minutes, etc.) phones. I stick them in old iPhones, turn off cellular data, and give then to my young nieces and nephews.
 
Right, because a new SIM is such a hassle to get from another carrier.
All that this does is make them look like the pricks they are and I doubt that's a good idea.

Classic move, AT&T.
And to think they had almost got T-Mobile... Jesus...

Glassed Silver:mac
 
Actually, it's worse. They used to sell you devices that were locked, and they have to unlock them now (for a fee). However, in this case the customer bought an unlocked iPad and AT&T seems to be locking it, if these reports are right. I would consider that to be property damage.

The IPAD is not locked to AT&T, just the SIM. If one wants to use T-mobile after choosing AT&T one would just have to get a SIM from T-mobile or another apple SIM. I do think it defeats the purpose of the apple SIM.
 
?!

Whichever executive decided to implement this locking of the Apple SIM should be fired. Why would you decide to implement a solution that denies flexibility to a product that is designed to encourage flexibility and that product is not even yours in the first place.

Just idiotic.
 
AT&T is Lame

AT&T cannot even unlock my iphone5 that is out of contract and for a universal sim they are going to lock it?!?!? T-Mobile hotspot works great and guess this is another reason just to use them.
 
Actually, it's worse. They used to sell you devices that were locked, and they have to unlock them now (for a fee). However, in this case the customer bought an unlocked iPad and AT&T seems to be locking it, if these reports are right. I would consider that to be property damage.
AT&T IS NOT LOCKING THE iPAD! :eek:
 
Until T-Mobile gets better coverage, the big two can do anything they want. Thus, why im on Verizon. I want a phone that works anywhere, not just in a city.
 
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