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AT&T Losing iPhone Exclusivity on Wednesday?
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I have a good friend who is a Sr. Executive at Verizon headquarters in New Jersey who states that there has been rumor talk around the office (just like around here) that the tablet is to be released on their network end of January and iPhone end of June.
She also stated that they've abruptly began to expedite the expansion of the 4G LTE network last week, and there is no indication as to why.
That's all I heard...
She also stated that they've abruptly began to expedite the expansion of the 4G LTE network last week, and there is no indication as to why.
That's all I heard...
they need to get the iPhone on all 4 major carriers. This would help to spread out the demands placed on the networks. All have 3G or its equivalent in the pipeline.
If you think people complain about battery life with GSM...
...just wait until you hear the complaints about a CDMA iPhone. Take 2 identical phones (one GSM and one CDMA) and the GSM phone will have better battery life. That's the main reason I believe the iPhone will NEVER come to Verizon until they make the switch to LTE. A CDMA iPhone would never pass Apple's test for a good consumer experience.
...just wait until you hear the complaints about a CDMA iPhone. Take 2 identical phones (one GSM and one CDMA) and the GSM phone will have better battery life. That's the main reason I believe the iPhone will NEVER come to Verizon until they make the switch to LTE. A CDMA iPhone would never pass Apple's test for a good consumer experience.
I disagree for the mere fact that the Verizon iPhone is a PR movement, not just an upgrade. This is such big news it can affect stock/shares within both companies. I believe Verizon will announce it before the actual release date, so people will be begging for it before its release. And, ultimately allowing people to think before starting a new contract on another carrier or extending their contract with iPhone from AT&T. Plus, this pleases ol' shareholders & brings in new ones.
A Verizon iPhone is millions & millions of new customers. This is huge for both Apple & Verizon!!! I would not doubt that Verizon wants set-up a PR campaign before its release.
Yes, they will decline a multi-million dollar contract because of a 30 minute decrease in battery life. You are definitely right.
I disagree for the mere fact that the Verizon iPhone is a PR movement, not just an upgrade. I believe Verizon will announce it before the actual release date, so people will be begging for it before its release. And, ultimately allowing people to think before starting a new contract on another carrier or extending their contract with iPhone from AT&T.
A Verizon iPhone is millions & millions of new customers. This is huge for both Apple & Verizon!!! I would not doubt that Verizon wants set-up a PR campaign before its release.
And another reason it would be announced is because all who's contract is ending with AT&T from now until June would be inclined to move to Verizon.
Apple seems to like using CETECOM as their iPhone tester.
What's interesting about CETECOM is that they're a TCB. They can issue approvals on behalf of the FCC. Secrecy is one reason companies use TCB authorities.
Assuming that TCBs can also approve cell phones (and I'm not clear on that), Apple could in theory hire CETECOM to get the FCC ceritifcation and have them keep it secret right up to the day before sales start.
This I never knew. I always thought CDMA had better battery life since it's not transmitting when it's not being used.
Only one thing is for certain...
If this is true, there will now be 2 service providers iPhone users will be bitching about
If this is true, there will now be 2 service providers iPhone users will be bitching about
I do not care about exclusivity. I just care about future iPhone models being avaliable on the AT&T network. I am not interested in switching networks to upgrade to a future iPhone model. That being said the install base of iPhones on the AT&T network make is seem far fetched that if/when the exclusive contract ends new models will not be avaliable on the AT&T network.
Exactly! I was going to make this same point. If Apple has to get FCC approval for the CDMA radio, its filings will become public so they'll want to make the big announcement first.
I don't understand why some people thing (and i'm not picking on you, really) that the iPhone going to a 2nd carrier means AT&T won't have it any longer.
Has this happened in any other country? Nope.
It just means that you get a choice of carriers.....
- free apps which get supported by paid apps. All that could be said of the ipod shuffle which sells for 60 dollars and obviously Apple isn't going broke making that. Nor is Samsung or LG who offer 'free' phones. The iPhone markup is ridiculous, this is a fact.
I agree. That's how they did it w/ the first iPhone. And knowing Apple's secretive nature, Apple might've had the FCC keep mum about it until after the official announcement.
Here's a question for you gurus:
I know that switching from one GSM carrier to another can be done by switching the SIM cards. How would one switch from one CDMA carrier to another? I'm with Sprint, and would snatch up a Verizon iPhone in a minute if I knew I could somehow put it on Sprint's network.
I know that switching from one GSM carrier to another can be done by switching the SIM cards. How would one switch from one CDMA carrier to another? I'm with Sprint, and would snatch up a Verizon iPhone in a minute if I knew I could somehow put it on Sprint's network.
Just the way Apple likes it!
So they can control the message and create the hype!...
I read this same post on AppleInsider where they said ""Inside of AT&T, we are hearing that the iPhone is causing more trouble than ever before," the report said. "On some level, having the iPhone is hurting AT&T's image. Because they are the only company to carry it, and it's such a data hog, it's largely to blame for AT&T's network troubles. We don't remember hearing about AT&T's 'horrible network' before the iPhone--do you?""
Well AT&T's network may have been just as horrible before iPhone, but not vociferously communicated because AT&T never came upon a group that IS the "Mac Community", where we are used to CEO's demanding perfection and products that "just work"... anyway, I digress... If the iPhone is such a data hog, why do we not hear from other users of other phones inability to work on AT&T's network? Surely since the intro of the iPhone, the competition has surely released smart phones that AT&T could have sold. Not in great numbers, but surely put out other smart phones that needed the AT&T network for them to work and yet we don't hear complaints from them saying, because of the AT&T and iPhone exclusivity deal, my HTC Android OS phone doesn't deliver as promised?
I'm curious to why nothing similar along those lines is ever reported? Or did I just miss them?
Why does this have so many negatives? Competition is a good thing. Even if you stay with AT&T, you will have less iPhone users straining the network, and probably lower priced contracts because AT&T isn't the only iPhone carrier.
Yeah, I'm sure the iPhone/AT&T breakup is AT&T's idea.
"No, really guys, I broke up with her!"
Fanboy throws fanboy card. News at 11.
Apparently all the iPhone users you know happen to live in a bad AT&T area while you and your buddies live in good Verizon areas.
The 3rd party tests I've seen show AT&T's 3G speed to be significantly faster than Verizon's on average across many metro markets.
Disclaimer: I think all wireless carriers suck - I dislike both AT&T and Verizon.
I disagree with you on two points, one of which is a matter of fact, the other a matter of opinion.
First, Verizon does not have the Nexus One. It is a GSM phone, and so only works on AT&T/T-Mobile type networks, not on Verizon's CDMA service. This is fact.
The second is the assertion that iPhone uses more data than the Droid/Nexus One. Unless you have either one of them, how can you make that statement? If you have both, your conclusions would likely be different.
I am currently testing a Nexus One vs my iPhone 3G
Android 2.1+ products, which will include Verizon's Droid soon enough, are almost certainly going to be at least as data hungry as the iPhone, and given the geek nature of the phones, the type of person buying them is more likely to be a data hog type person than the typical iPhone user outside of the folks who read this type of forum.
Micahelingleo - you don't get it. The "best" network is the one that meets your needs and expectations, just like Applejuiced points out. AT&T works just as well for me in Los Angeles and the places I visit routinely as Verizon or Sprint ever did. I have no complaints. It's really a location/location/location issue.
As far as the WORST network. T-Mobile, without a doubt, in my areas. Absolutely horrible coverage and signal penetration. I can't even get a signal in 90% of my house on my Nexus One. I routinely drop service in the north parts of the San Fernando Valley. I had dinner at Warner Center (a major business/retail/dining area in Los Angeles) on Saturday, and I couldn't get more than EDGE data inside the restaurant. My iPhone, on the other hand, had 5 bars and full 3G. I think the Nexus One is currently a much better OS and piece of hardware than currently available iPhones/iPhone-OS, but T-Mobile service is likely to make me send the phone back before my testing period is over. :-(
Go away Grammar Gestapo agent. No one appreciates posts like yours. Really, no one. It adds nothing to the conversation. If you feel the overwhelming need to correct someone's spelling and grammar, send them a private message.
Not if we compare 3G phones, in which case the GSM model should be worse while using 3G.
On both CDMA2000 (Verizon) and GSM (ATT) networks, 3G is accomplished via a CDMA radio.... aka EVDO for CDMA2000 and WCDMA for GSM.
The GSM WCDMA radio requires a much higher clock rate (that allows the greater bandwidth for simultaneous voice+data), and at least in the USA, must often transmit at a higher power because of ATT's less dense tower layout.
LTE would be even worse about battery, which is why it's mostly intended for larger and/or line-powered devices.
I believe nobody is against competition. People are against dumb rumors, though.