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MMS is not just pictures. Aside of the fact that millions will begin sending pics on 9/25, 3GS users can send video clips too. I can't imagine the bandwidth that will require.

I never said MMS is just pics. And how is that different then a lot of other non-iphones ? iPhones are far from the only phone that can send video MMS. And current iPhone customers are already sending pics & video via email instead.
 
Look.

I'm no AT&T apologist. Check my other posts if you don't believe that.

First, for people who think the iPhone plans are excessive, you should shop around for smart phones on the other carriers. ALL the plans are lame and expensive. Take Verizon BlackBerry plans, for instance, where they nickle and dime you for every single feature. And the draconian lock downs also exists with other carriers (like the old GPS chip lock down with Verizon GPS phones).

Second, I welcome this open-ness from AT&T. It's an interesting approach to address the most vocal consumers. The infantile attacks against how the spokesperson looks are just that. Grow up.

Finally, is anyone here actually qualified to address the technical challenges of running a global telecommunications network? I'm certainly not, but I'm sure it's not as easy as just adding more capacity.

Like I said, I'm no AT&T fanboy but the level of vitriole on this thread is absurd.
 
I never said MMS is just pics. And how is that different then most other non-iphones ? iPhones are far from the only phone that can send videos. And current iPhone customers are already sending MMS data (pics & video) via email instead.
It is different in that with most phones, it is a pain the arse to use that feature so very few people end up actually using it "often" if at all.
 
The heck with MMS. I'd be glad if I actually could receive phone calls again. Lately calls have been jumping directly to voice mail without even ringing first. Then when I try to access the voice mail, it just sits there forever with that spinning icon.

Congratulations, AT&T, on finally figuring out how to deal with MMS. Now could I please receive calls?
 
Look.

I'm no AT&T apologist. Check my other posts if you don't believe that.

First, for people who think the iPhone plans are excessive, you should shop around for smart phones on the other carriers. ALL the plans are lame and expensive. Take Verizon BlackBerry plans, for instance, where they nickle and dime you for every single feature. And the draconian lock downs also exists with other carriers (like the old GPS chip lock down with Verizon GPS phones).

Second, I welcome this open-ness from AT&T. It's an interesting approach to address the most vocal consumers. The infantile attacks against how the spokesperson looks are just that. Grow up.

Finally, is anyone here actually qualified to address the technical challenges of running a global telecommunications network? I'm certainly not, but I'm sure it's not as easy as just adding more capacity.

Like I said, I'm no AT&T fanboy but the level of vitriole on this thread is absurd.


Thread should have ended with this post.
 
MMS is not just pictures. Aside of the fact that millions will begin sending pics on 9/25, 3GS users can send video clips too. I can't imagine the bandwidth that will require.
The same bandwidth that other iPhone carriers around the world have been handling with since June.

Note that the iPhone's upload speed is tops out at a relatively pokey 384Kbps because Apple did not implement the faster HSPA technology. The iPhone 3GS supports 7.2Mbps HSDPA download speeds.
 
The use of MMS

Small change of subject...

I know that people have said: "who uses MMS?", "it's old technology", "seriously how many stupid pictures of your cat are you going to send to your wife", blah blah blah...

I know for one with my old razor I sent maybe just a handful of mms messages but I wonder how much that will change with the "Apple Factor". Obviously it will be a better experience. I know I have found myself wanting to share a contact with someone via mms instead of email. So all this to say do you think we as a text messaging society are going to use significantly more mms than we ever did in the past with our old phones?

Anyone from the other countries who are using MMS now on the iPhone notice an increase in your MMS usage compared to what you did before with your old phone?

I know for one I text a lot more now with the iPhone than I ever did with my RAZR.
 
Seth then addresses the broader investments AT&T has made in its network, totaling $38 billion over the past two years

Excuse me, am I reading that correctly? $38 billion?

DAMN! Are they making a ******* full of money!!!:eek:
No, you are not reading that correct. Yes they do make a lot of money but to put things in perspective, they are SPENDING 38 billion to fix their network.
 
Im AT&T and I want the iPhone to be all mine! Oh wait can I handle it?

:rolleyes:

You're being a bit hash people. If you can draw your minds back to the 2007 when Apple was hunting around for a carrier for the Iphone, AT&T was one of the few if not the only one prepared to take the risk. And it was a risky proposition. Telcos are not renown for innovation and the user experience when it comes to client service. What AT&T failed to do however and they were not alone was anticipating the overwhelming demand for the iphone. Now they are trying to play catchup and fix the problem. Are they at fault sure. But being the only IPhone carrier in the US means they are carrying the entire load. So if they had decided not to carry the iphone all of you complainers would be stuck with using your previous non apple mobile. I am sure that Verizon is bringing forward their network upgrade plans in light of AT&T's experience to take advantage of the iphone when the AT&T exclusive deal ends :):)
 
The same bandwidth that other iPhone carriers around the world have been handling with since June.

Note that the iPhone's upload speed is tops out at a relatively pokey 384Kbps because Apple did not implement the faster HSPA technology. The iPhone 3GS supports 7.2Mbps HSDPA download speeds.

It's common knowledge that American cell networks are not nearly as capable as those in other parts of the world.
 
But being the only IPhone carrier in the US means they are carrying the entire load. So if they had decided not to carry the iphone all of you complainers would be stuck with using your previous non apple mobile.

not bloody likely IMHO.

You're basically implying that if AT&T hadn't taken this 'huge risk' than Apple would have said 'aww darnnit' and abandoned the iPhone.

And you sound as if we're supposed to feel bad, or at least be 'understanding' because they are the only carrier. Well guess what - they are the only carrier because of their own greed. They dug this whole themselves.

Simple case of the company not being up front with their customers because, frankly, they don't have to. Apple has done such a good job that people will deal with crappy customer service for amazing apple hardware.

Phone companies don't care about the end user experience the way apple does, and now it's all out in the open for everyone to see.

I tend to think it would have made it to market somehow. And BTW AT&T said MMS would be ready to go by late summer. The 25 is not late summer. It's Fall.
 
You're being a bit hash people. If you can draw your minds back to the 2007 when Apple was hunting around for a carrier for the Iphone, AT&T was one of the few if not the only one prepared to take the risk. And it was a risky proposition. But being the only IPhone carrier in the US means they are carrying the entire load. So if they had decided not to carry the iphone all of you complainers would be stuck with using your previous non apple mobile.

not bloody likely IMHO.

You're basically implying that if AT&T hadn't taken this 'huge risk' than Apple would have said 'aww darnnit' and abandoned the iPhone.

And you sound as if we're supposed to feel bad, or at least be 'understanding' because they are the only carrier. Well guess what - they are the only carrier because of their own greed. They dug this whole themselves.

Simple case of the company not being up front with their customers because, frankly, they don't have to. Apple has done such a good job that people will deal with crappy customer service for amazing apple hardware.

Phone companies don't care about the end user experience the way apple does, and now it's all out in the open for everyone to see.

I tend to think it would have made it to market somehow. And BTW AT&T said MMS would be ready to go by late summer. The 25 is not late summer. It's Fall.
 
Apple has done such a good job that people will deal with crappy customer service for amazing apple hardware.
This is incorrect.

Apple customer service has been ranked number one in pretty much every single survey on consumer technology.

Despite the alleged "Apple tax", Apple customers are also happier in pretty much all consumer electronics surveys as well. Can money buy happiness? In the case of consumer electronics and computing, maybe it can.
 
Look.

I'm no AT&T apologist. Check my other posts if you don't believe that.

First, for people who think the iPhone plans are excessive, you should shop around for smart phones on the other carriers. ALL the plans are lame and expensive. Take Verizon BlackBerry plans, for instance, where they nickle and dime you for every single feature. And the draconian lock downs also exists with other carriers (like the old GPS chip lock down with Verizon GPS phones).

Second, I welcome this open-ness from AT&T. It's an interesting approach to address the most vocal consumers. The infantile attacks against how the spokesperson looks are just that. Grow up.

Finally, is anyone here actually qualified to address the technical challenges of running a global telecommunications network? I'm certainly not, but I'm sure it's not as easy as just adding more capacity.

Like I said, I'm no AT&T fanboy but the level of vitriole on this thread is absurd.
Props to you. Great post.
 
ATT is setting themselves up

For a hellacious black eye if there are ANY problems with this service rollout.

"Hey we took so long to make sure we get it right"

OOPS!

"There were problems we did not forsee"
 
"Hey, it's Seth the Blogger Guy -- the fakezoid hipster designed by a cynical corporation to slip in past your feeble cultural barriers against being deceived.

Now that we've established I'm a cool Blogger Guy, let me blow some smoke up your nethernets..."
 
Why do people in these kinds of videos insist on talking to us like we are five years old?

Because they've read the plethora of MMS threads on this site started by people who are yelling, screaming and stamping their feet because they can't send message with pictures, saying they've been lied to and releasing MMS on 9/25 is a slap in the face. They've done everything children do except pee in their beds at night.
 
Do iPhone customers SMS more then other smartphone users ? I highly doubt it.


And you would be wrong.

As someone who regularly prepares reports on phone usage for a 220 phone strong account... Iphone users use damn near everything more. in my case the 75 or so iphones on this account regularly DOUBLE the SMS trafffic per user than other phones including blackberry and other smartphones. Data Usage too.
 
Why back in June 2009 did AT&T give a different excuse for the MMS delay:

Because they're an evil, money grubbing capitalistic mega corporation whose only goal is to take money out of the crippled, gnarled fists of widows who only want a cell phone to call their worthless children because they never call their mother. Plus a general desire to pi$$ off their customers.
 
Yes, I know. We're about three years behind Europe and five years behind Southeast Asia. Utterly shameful and unlikely we'll ever catch up.

Stating this is the responsibility of our president. Please do not steal something else he must apologize for.
 
Look.

I'm no AT&T apologist. Check my other posts if you don't believe that.

First, for people who think the iPhone plans are excessive, you should shop around for smart phones on the other carriers. ALL the plans are lame and expensive. Take Verizon BlackBerry plans, for instance, where they nickle and dime you for every single feature. And the draconian lock downs also exists with other carriers (like the old GPS chip lock down with Verizon GPS phones).

Second, I welcome this open-ness from AT&T. It's an interesting approach to address the most vocal consumers. The infantile attacks against how the spokesperson looks are just that. Grow up.

Finally, is anyone here actually qualified to address the technical challenges of running a global telecommunications network? I'm certainly not, but I'm sure it's not as easy as just adding more capacity.

Like I said, I'm no AT&T fanboy but the level of vitriole on this thread is absurd.

Bravo. Theres actually a reasonable person somewhere on the internet, who doesn't have an delusional sense of entitlement and bratty-ness.
 
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