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How will its not the question here. rdowns has neatly sumed up what I was about to say. iPhone users are more demanding.



Simple, beautiful interface everyone wants to use. Just like data before the iPhone. No one used it. Today, not many people with iPhones can go a day or two without having to use the web or check email.

You still fail to prove your point. The MMS experience will not be any better on the iPhone then other smartphones. I still highly doubt the MMS traffic will much greater then other smartphones. Only time will prove who is right. And quoting articles about how iPhone customers use 10x more data (which is currently mostly internet data) is not proving they will use 10x more MMS data. Do iPhone customers SMS more then other smartphone users ? I highly doubt it.
 
Is this an important message form ATT? I really don't know, I'm waiting to eat diner in a city with a population of 50,000+, that is yet to get 3G service, hence I'm without a reliable connection to YouTube on my iPhone to watch this.
 
I HATE Verizon. Locked up the ass firmware with the same damn menu on every phone they sell. No sim support and I can't have multiple phones BS. Dammit I hate them. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

So Apple and AT&T have nothing "locked up the ass" on the iPhone?
 
WOW AT&T a video really?

Don't feed us this BS just put on MMS Sept 25th

Also the guy looks really pissed off, look how wide his eyes are. Unless he goes skiing in the alps or drinks a lot of dunkin doughnuts coffee. :eek:
 
You still fail to prove your point. The MMS experience will not be any better on the iPhone then other smartphones. I still highly doubt the MMS traffic will be greater then other smartphones. Only time will prove who is right. And quoting articles about how iPhone customers use 10x more data (which is currently mostly internet data) is not proving they will use 10x more MMS traffic.

What you are saying is what everyone said about the mobile internet on the iPhone. No one will use it. And yet 2 years later we have a 300% traffic increase. AT&T is preparing for that. If that doesn't happen, then AT&T has solified its network. If it does happen, then AT&T can handle it without a problem because they prepared.

Now, if problems do arise, then I plan to complain because AT&T gave the "we are preparing excuse".
 
Enough already!

Bullxxxxing their customers with more bullxxxx is simply no longer acceptable on my book. I've been using the original iPhone since day one and now the 3GS. AT&T keeps wanting more money from their customers but not giving them anything in return. At least they could just let us have unlimited TXT! I am waiting for them to come up with a video respond...the TXT messages are like having millions of bicycles on the highway...

May be someone should start a class action lawsuit against AT&T to get some of our hard earned cash back.

BTW, why are they making this fading piece of technology MMS sounds like the next BIG thing? Who cares about MMS anyway??!!
 
What you are saying is what everyone said about the mobile internet on the iPhone. No one will use it. And yet 2 years later we have a 300% traffic increase. AT&T is preparing for that. If that doesn't happen, then AT&T has solified its network. If it does happen, then AT&T can handle it without a problem because they prepared.

Now, if problems do arise, then I plan to complain because AT&T gave the "we are preparing excuse".

What ? Why are you trying to compare it to what people said about mobile internet. Mobile Internet was a very poor experience a few years ago. That is why people didn't use it. Almost all phones MMS...and do it well. MMS is already very popular. Unlike what mobile internet was a few years ago. I'm not saying MMS will not be popular on the iPhone too. But the iPhone does not MMS any better then other phones. Unlike the Internet experience. And I'm saying MMS will not be anymore popular then other phones.
 
st louis

All the issues seem to occur mainly in SF and New York/Boston areas. I'm here in st louis and speeds are always above 1mbps and i rarely have a dropped call. Although ATT has a strong presence due to the fact SBC headquarters was here for a bit.
 
I really don't have a problem with any of this, and I certainly believe that ATT is working hard to improve their network. There are many iPhone users on ATT, and ATT's network is not ready for widespread MMS usage. People here are saying "If Apple used Verizon or Sprint none of this would happen." Guess what, it would. The amount of iPhone users on ATT is huge, and NO CARRIER is ready for that. But, I will agree that ATT's 3G performance is poor IN CERTAIN AREAS. Out here on the North Fork of Long Island, there is just about no 3G coverage. But, the problem isn't ATT. I know a lot of people here complain of issues, but sometimes it isn't always ATT's fault. The reason for the poor service out here is simple, and it's with all carriers...the environmental people out here will not allow any carrier to install another cell tower...so there is one tower for a 30+ mile stretch of land.

So just to tell you all, don't blame ATT for all the problems all the time, sometimes it is somebody else, even Apple. I can't tell you how many times I have no service, but my brother on his iPhone does. That isn't ATT, its Apple.
 
So Apple and AT&T have nothing "locked up the ass" on the iPhone?

By comparison, less so than Verizon. All phone company's suck, finding the one that sucks the least is the trick. For me that has been GSM based companies. Apple's app approval is not perfect but not a lock up either. I see no reason they shouldn't limit apps that are attempted work arounds. They let up a little and a baby shaker app gets let through and then they tighten down and everyone gets mad that Google's app gets rejected. No body's happy. :rolleyes:
 
Tethering?

Come on AT&T?!?!?! What's the problem!!!!

What is your problem? You want tethering to connect your PC on the road? Go get a free 3G Wireless card....yes free. Then sign up for a data plan for that card......it will cost no more than a tethering service on any cell phone.....on any network.

Then, get a life.
 
When you market, what is basically an apology that you suck, that can't be good. Sorry, not good enough. You provide a service, it better deliver or else you're done. AT&T has consistently proven to me through HORRIBLE signal experience that they don't know whats going on. To pander to their customers with a 'poor us, but we'll do better next time' attitude is just not good enough..

Hhmmm... Didn't Apple kind of do the same thing with their computer chips? :confused:

First they touted the Mhz Myth when their computer processing speeds lagged behind PC's... :(

Then Steve Jobs promised us a 3Ghz processor for the PowerMac G5, as well as, a G5 laptop... that never came! :mad:

Then Steve Jobs had to do a meaculpa for not keeping his word... :eek:

Finally, Apple gives up the PowerPC architecture for something that has a future and switches to Intel. Like Intel's CEO said to Steve Jobs, "What took you so long?" I wonder where Apple would be today, had they had Intel inside since 1984?

Anyway, all those f*ck-ups on Apple's part didn't keep me or thousands of others from not going with an Apple product or staying with Apple.

Apple said AT&T was the best... we all kinda know that was BS. AT&T was willing to bend over to Apple demands for a product sight unseen and whose popularity could be questioned. I mean, AT&T could of thought, iPhone... big as the iPod??? or a dismal failure as The Cube??? Verizon didn't take the chance then but I bet wishes they did now, but they didn't know.

Also, I remember all the talk about whether Apple would get into the cell phone carrier market themselves with their own product(s). Had they done that, and if the problems persisted what would the AT&T haters and whiners in general be saying? Would they be ragging on Apple, "Apple kills the Apple iPhone experience because the Apple network SUCKS"??? Ponder that for awhile... :apple:

In the meantime, there are no qualms about the AT&T network here when it comes to using the iPhone. :cool:
 
Seth then addresses the broader investments AT&T has made in its network, totaling $38 billion over the past two years

Excuse me, am I reading that correctly? $38 billion?

DAMN! Are they making a ******* full of money!!!:eek:
 
What ? Why are you trying to compare it to what people said about mobile internet. Mobile Internet was a very poor experience a few years ago. That is why people didn't use it. Almost all phones MMS. MMS is already very popular. Unlike what mobile internet was a few years ago. I'm not saying MMS will not be popular on the iPhone too. But the iPhone does not MMS any better then other phones. Unlike the Internet experience. And I'm saying MMS will not be anymore popular then other phones.

I'm even tired of reading this. It's not better. No one is saying the iPhone has better MMS. They're saying that once the iPhone can MMS the *****'s gonna hit the roof with THAT MUCH MORE DATA. Some 18 million people will be able to send pics.
 
You know what amazes me? AT&T just said they are listening. I never thought I would ever hear that.

I have said from the beginning AT&T is the best network hope in the USA. They need to improve it by two orders of magnitude, but after the year-long 3G ramp, I hope they have been installing backhaul to support 4G-LTE.

I hope the Apple Tablet secretly supports LTE for later activation.

AT&T, I have publicly supported you through these growing pains, so ramp it. We need the bandwidth. Soon. It's time to rock. ;)

Rocketman
 
I'm even tired of reading this. It's not better. No one is saying the iPhone has better MMS. They're saying that once the iPhone can MMS the *****'s gonna hit the roof with THAT MUCH MORE DATA. Some 18 million people will be able to send pics.

But my point is that the MMS traffic will not be any greater then if those customers had non-iPhones. And current iPhone customers are already sending MMS type data (pics, video, etc) via email instead.
 
By comparison, less so than Verizon. All phone company's suck, finding the one that sucks the least is the trick.
Nothing is blocked on my Verizon Windows phone. So I guess Verizon Smartphones, the current ones anyway, are more open than the iPhone. People seem to have a hard time believing that.
I'd much rather have an iPhone, but until it's on Verizon it's not an option for me.
 
So I guess the iPhone 3GSV with Video iChat and videoconferencing will be out of the question on AT&T's network, come Summer 2010?

Imagine the 3GS had a front-facing camera. Oh, we'd be in a much deeper hole right now...
 
You still fail to prove your point. The MMS experience will not be any better on the iPhone then other smartphones. I still highly doubt the MMS traffic will much greater then other smartphones. Only time will prove who is right. And quoting articles about how iPhone customers use 10x more data (which is currently mostly internet data) is not proving they will use 10x more MMS data. Do iPhone customers SMS more then other smartphone users ? I highly doubt it.


MMS is not just pictures. Aside of the fact that millions will begin sending pics on 9/25, 3GS users can send video clips too. I can't imagine the bandwidth that will require.
 
Why do people in these kinds of videos insist on talking to us like we are five years old? What is the point?
 
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