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This doesn’t apply to the ipad unlimited data plan. I’ve been grandfathered in that since 2010 and still only pay $29 a month for unlimited data. I have transfered it to every new ipad i’ve bought since. Currently using an ipad mini 2 and plan to buy one of the new ipad pros once they are announced. I believe the AT&T unlimited data plan for the ipad was only given for a few months back in 2010 and was discontinued by AT&T after they probably realized too many people were buying into it. Guess they didn’t put a clause in the contract that said they could raise the price anytime they wanted and were like...Oops! Lets cancel this thing before it gets out of hand. I’m one of the lucky ones who never cancelled and am still granfathered in. I will keep transfering it to every new ipad i own.
I have this same plan too and make good use of it. However, I think AT&T actually brought back this plan last year.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/at-t-ipad-unlimited-plan-is-back.2047977/
 
I live in a small town -- broadband internet here maxes out at 20MBPS, less than my cell phone and would cost $600/month.

So, I run my entire house off two iPhones connected to a load balancing router.
Not on a grandfathered in unlimited plan though, correct? If so, you really shouldn't brag publicly about that, because that violates the ToS and they can remove your grandfathered status.
 
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Used to love AT&T, but they’ve changed. Burned me out of $300 for upgrading from iP7+ to iPX. Gonna need to make the switch to red or pink/yellow here soon!
 
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I'm a firm believer that cell phone plans are exactly like the characters in Super Mario Bros. 2.

Mario is slightly above average in everything, but doesn't excel at anything.
Luigi can jump the highest, but isn't super fast or strong.
Toad is strong and fast, but can't jump high.
And Princess, well, Princess can float.

I appreciate everyone's responses about their individual situations, but is there a reputable cellular review website that periodically reviews regional mobile offerings with speed/cost/features categorized? Because I'm a grandfathered AT&T UDT and I do the nothing dance across websites and comments sections every time the plan cost is raised, but don't actually do anything.
 
Well, I cant believe it but I finally dropped my grandfathered plan and went to the current enhanced plus.

Its the same cost so considering Im getting hotspot, hbo and unlimited text and talk (had 200 text 1000 minute plan) this move was a no brainer.

I dont understand why people complain too much, nothing is getting cheaper in life. Money is being printed out of thin air and entire value of the dollar is dropping.
 
I'm a firm believer that cell phone plans are exactly like the characters in Super Mario Bros. 2.

Mario is slightly above average in everything, but doesn't excel at anything.
Luigi can jump the highest, but isn't super fast or strong.
Toad is strong and fast, but can't jump high.
And Princess, well, Princess can float.

I appreciate everyone's responses about their individual situations, but is there a reputable cellular review website that periodically reviews regional mobile offerings with speed/cost/features categorized? Because I'm a grandfathered AT&T UDT and I do the nothing dance across websites and comments sections every time the plan cost is raised, but don't actually do anything.

I ran across this one in Tom’s Guide

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/best-phone-plans,review-2953-3.html
 
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Well, I for one think its a pile of ********, but every company is doing it. I just got a letter from my Tom Tom GPS that I purchased with lifetime map updates a few yrs back. I specifically bought this GPS over a Garmin due to the free lifetime map updates.
They told me that they were phasing out the old GPS's with lifetime maps to introduce a new line of Tom Tom GPS's with life time maps. I tried to argue with them by telling them I was still "alive" and they could not discontinue my service, even called the BBB and wrote an official complain... BBB is useless too.
End up that Tom Tom said the Lifetime Map service was for the "lifetime of the technology", not the lifetime of the purchaser, yet they could not show me anywhere in my original contract where it stated that.
They did however offer me 10% off a new Tom Tom with the new Lifetime map feature....
Yea right!!!!!
 
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Not on a grandfathered in unlimited plan though, correct? If so, you really shouldn't brag publicly about that, because that violates the ToS and they can remove your grandfathered status.

No not on grandfathered.

I don't get what you're so up in arms about. The grandfathered plan is useless. it saves you NOTHING from moving to the new unlimited plans. It does let you brag about it though, I suppose.

It's funny you think I'm 'bragging' - I'm using a paid freaking service, EXACTLY as it is intended. Sure, I may get throttled if somehow there is heavy consumption (nearly everybody in this town using Verizon) - but that's the price I'll take.

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Be warned, I've seen several other threads where a bunch of people notice performance issues after switching from the grandfathered plans to the new Unlimited Plus plan.

https://webcache.googleusercontent....-Plan/td-p/5102836+&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

In this thread for example, a bunch of people describe experiencing almost identical issues, while 3 specific users respond to every single complaint with the same generic answers that the plans are "NO DIFFERENT" and that something must be wrong with their phone. It becomes so obvious, other users start calling the 3 users out on it.

If the plans are the "exact same", AND the new ones are CHEAPER... then why is AT&T raising the price of just these grandfathered plans AGAIN ($15/month increase in under 2 years)???

I'm sure tons of people will tell you that "It's the same thing but BETTER! Look at all these new features!!!", but there is something going on here, and AT&T isn't being transparent about it.
I've UDP+ (switched from og grandfathered unlimited) for over a year and I haven't had any performance issues. The one thing I can think of is that UDP+ has Stream Saver and it's enabled by default. That limits the speed of video streams (Netflix, Youtube, etc). You have to log into the AT&T's account management site to disable it, and it removes the speed limits.

So yeah I don't think there's anything underhanded about the new plans. At least in my year+ of having it.

The original unlimited plan was good back in 2008, but you're locked out of so many plan features at this point that it's weird to hang onto it so tightly. It's very much an inferior plan when compared to UDP+ and UDP+E.
 
Wife and I have been on the grandfathered plan since iPhone 1 and iPad 1. A $10 increase is NOT going to make me dropped my plan. Ive been throttled two times in all these years and I use tons of data.

My daughter is on the "new" unlimited plan with her iPad, I can promise you theres a streaming difference between the grandfathered and the new unlimited plans. I'll keep paying.
 
Wife and I have been on the grandfathered plan since iPhone 1 and iPad 1. A $10 increase is NOT going to make me dropped my plan. Ive been throttled two times in all these years and I use tons of data.

My daughter is on the "new" unlimited plan with her iPad, I can promise you theres a streaming difference between the grandfathered and the new unlimited plans. I'll keep paying.
now about promising us with facts?
 
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I've UDP+ (switched from og grandfathered unlimited) for over a year and I haven't had any performance issues. The one thing I can think of is that UDP+ has Stream Saver and it's enabled by default. That limits the speed of video streams (Netflix, Youtube, etc). You have to log into the AT&T's account management site to disable it, and it removes the speed limits.

So yeah I don't think there's anything underhanded about the new plans. At least in my year+ of having it.

The original unlimited plan was good back in 2008, but you're locked out of so many plan features at this point that it's weird to hang onto it so tightly. It's very much an inferior plan when compared to UDP+ and UDP+E.

As I posted below, Wife and I have grandfathered plans. Daughter has new unlimited. Ive compared them side by side many times and theres enough difference that Im keeping our grandfathered plan. Plus even with paying extra my daughter gets throttle warnings. I don't. Thats even for me.
 



AT&T is again raising the price for grandfathered unlimited smartphone data plans by $5 per month, according to a support article on the carrier's website and multiple tipsters who emailed us today. The price hike will be effective this July, and notifications appear to have started hitting the first wave of grandfathered unlimited plan users over the past few days.

In the article, AT&T says that any customer who has a grandfathered $40 data plan will soon begin seeing an email about the $5 per month price increase. Multiple tipsters have already gotten such notifications, and one -- MacRumors forum user jav6454 -- says that his grandfathered unlimited data plan was originally bought for $30 around the time of the iPhone 3G.

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The last time a $5/month increase happened was in March 2017, raising grandfathered plans from $35 to $40, and followed an increase from $30 to $35 in February 2016. AT&T originally discontinued unlimited plans in 2010 and didn't introduce new unlimited plans again until 2017.

In its explanation, AT&T says that "record levels" of mobile data use have led to the decision to increase the monthly cost of legacy data plans:
The carrier promises that the price increase will not impact data speeds, and speeds will only be reduced when 22GB of data in a billing cycle is exceeded or when users are in a congested area. AT&T also points out that customers can change their plan at any time, although anyone who switches out of a grandfathered plan should be warned because they won't be able to go back once a new plan is selected.

Currently, AT&T offers "Unlimited Plus Enhanced" and "Unlimited Choice Enhanced" as options for unlimited monthly data usage. Unlimited Plus is $80/month for one line and then rises to $190/month for four lines (at $48 per line), while Unlimited Choice is $65/month for one line and $160/month for four lines (at $40 per line). The latter plan streams standard definition video, lacks mobile hotspot features, and doesn't include DirecTV entertainment savings (only DirecTV Now).

Before these new unlimited plans launched, AT&T and many other carriers were heavily focused on eliminating grandfathered users through ongoing price hikes, like we are seeing again this summer.

(Thanks Jose and Alan!)

Article Link: AT&T Raising Price of Grandfathered Unlimited Data Plans to $45 Per Month
I don't understand how their other plans are cheaper?
 
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Wife and I have been on the grandfathered plan since iPhone 1 and iPad 1. A $10 increase is NOT going to make me dropped my plan. Ive been throttled two times in all these years and I use tons of data.

My daughter is on the "new" unlimited plan with her iPad, I can promise you theres a streaming difference between the grandfathered and the new unlimited plans. I'll keep paying.

And you're in San Jose? ATT has good service and coverage there?

I'm in Los Angeles, and although I don't come close to using enough bandwidth the get throttled, I find my service appears throttled in many congested areas. Reading this article made the connection in my head, why when I'm in areas where a lot of people are on their phones, that my data slows to a crawl, which is usually when I need it most.

That's definitely making me rethink upgrading to a more restrictive plan.
 
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I'm hoping someone can help me out. I've been on the grandfathered ATT plan since the first iPhone. My current plan is:

450 nationwide minutes with rollover
Unlimited texts
Unlimited data

I do have some sort of corporate discount which brings my bill to about $90 a month. Looking through the last year of data usage, I average 12-14GB. There was one month that spiked to 24GB, but that was the month I moved and was in corporate housing.

ATT Business Unlimited Plus is $80 a month and I assume I'd get to apply my corporate discount on top of that. Offers everything I have now plus usage in Canada/Mexico and wireless hotspot. Seems like I'd only have to worry about data if I go over 22GB a month. Is that correct?

If I don't qualify for Business, the Unlimited Plus Enhanced offers seemingly the same as the business offering (plus HBO) for $90 which I would be able to apply my corporate discount to. Even this option seems like a better deal than what I have now.

So why am I sticking with the same plan for the past 10 years? Like someone else mentioned, it seems like ATT wants me off it which is part of the reason I stay on it. And with increased data consumption on devices, I do use more data than I used to. But even with that increased consumption, it seems like their current deals offer more for less. Does it make sense to switch?
 
I'm a firm believer that cell phone plans are exactly like the characters in Super Mario Bros. 2.

Mario is slightly above average in everything, but doesn't excel at anything.
Luigi can jump the highest, but isn't super fast or strong.
Toad is strong and fast, but can't jump high.
And Princess, well, Princess can float.

I appreciate everyone's responses about their individual situations, but is there a reputable cellular review website that periodically reviews regional mobile offerings with speed/cost/features categorized? Because I'm a grandfathered AT&T UDT and I do the nothing dance across websites and comments sections every time the plan cost is raised, but don't actually do anything.

Most companies have a trial period. I had all my phones paid off so i trialed TMobile. I stayed because i got the same or better service and speed with more perks and over $100 less for a fam of 3 plan. Go and try out the multiple carriers and hit up every spot you frequent. Stay with them if they work there.
 
They're trying to pressure you to leave the plan on your own accord because that's associated with a more positive customer experience than forcing you off.



They're trying to maximize the number of people that leave the plan and minimize the number people that get mad and leave altogether.



I'm not doing any reaching--I understand exactly what they're doing. OTOH, it's hilarious that you're accusing me of reaching for something and not providing any answers while it's actually you that are doing that. I'm guessing that the people that don't understand this have no marketing or sales backgrounds.

I'll repeat it for you one more time: THEY WANT CUSTOMERS OFF THE PLAN BUT NOT SO BADLY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO KICK THEM OFF AND POTENTIALLY CREATE EX-CUSTOMERS.

So...tell us what they could be hiding. Go ahead and speculate. Think big. You haven't told us anything yet.
LOL Bachelor of Sciences in Marketing and Economics, but nice try trying to make me look like I'm the one that doesn't know what he's talking about.

Every single "explanation" you've given is 100% complete speculation on your part, and not a single reason you've given makes any sense when thought about for more than 30 seconds.

My evidence is countless posts from countless users all over the internet that report issues when switching from the grandfathered plan to the new unlimited plans, particularly when it comes to streaming. Add to that the amount of users that seem to be shilling for AT&T, constantly telling these people over and over again that they are either wrong/mistaken, their phone isn't working, or AT&T incorrectly changed their plan over. Add to that the amount of reports you can find all over the internet of underhanded tactics used by AT&T to get people to switch, and then won't switch them back after they've realized they have been duped.

Every word of your post is literally reaching for answers, even though you have absolutely none of them. Your attempts to discredit me are for "not providing answers" myself is even more hilarious, considering I'm the one pointing out that there seems to be a problem that ISN'T BEING ADDRESSED BY AT&T and they are providing ZERO ANSWERS.

Keep trying though.
 
Part of me wants to disagree with all the BS they've done to the unlimited plans out of principle, but I'd also be happy if all these unlimited users left. I want my cell service to be usable.
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This is why I left AT&T after 13 years for T-Mobile over 3 years ago.
Is that why they're so slow? :p
 
The plan was originally sold unlimited with no caps and best speed possible. The throttling was added once they knew can get away with doing.

I'm not aware of any carrier advertising "best speed possible", even in the best of times of UDPs.
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But then if that is the case, why not just revoke the grandfathered-in unlimited plans????? It makes absolutely ZERO sense. Either they can't, and they're just trying to get all of them out before people realize it, or they can and are just worried about customer retention.

It actually makes perfect sense to anyone that has ever dealt with customers.
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My daughter is on the "new" unlimited plan with her iPad, I can promise you theres a streaming difference between the grandfathered and the new unlimited plans. I'll keep paying.

So...what's the difference in streaming? If it's so obvious why aren't you guys telling us what it is? I'm sure there are plenty of people here that would be glad to post some speed tests from the newer plans to help you prove your point.
 
You're basically correct, but you've worded this response so you sound biased against anyone wanting to keep an older, grandfathered plan.

For example, I still use a grandfathered plan with T-Mobile, because the current alternatives would cost me at least $10/month more for the way I actually use my phone. The supposed advantages of the newer plan are only advantages if you actually use and need more monthly data. I rarely exceed about 2GB of usage in a month because I try to stay on wi-fi connections for most of what I do. It's not that the plan was "a great deal at the time" and I'm just foolishly trying to keep it.....


Usually a plan or contract that is no longer offered and was a great deal at the the time, but customers are. not pushed off it.
Usually these contracts are month to month and the carriers can push customers off them, but avoid due to the public perception. Rather, they increase the prices to force people to switch.
 
I'm in Los Angeles, and although I don't come close to using enough bandwidth the get throttled, I find my service appears throttled in many congested areas. Reading this article made the connection in my head, why when I'm in areas where a lot of people are on their phones, that my data slows to a crawl, which is usually when I need it most.

That's definitely making me rethink upgrading to a more restrictive plan.

That's not being throttled, that's being in a congested area with a lot of demand. There is no service provider or plan that can prevent this from happening under heavy demand.
 
The new AT&T unlimited plans don't necessarily throttle you at 22 gigs of usage I have the new unlimited plan and I can tell you I use about a hundred gigs a month with no issue the only thing it does at 22 gigs is it will prioritize your data if you're in a congested area and the network is straining it will slow your speeds down first to give I already to a user who uses less data (but I rarely hit any congested areas and have not had any major problems)
 
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Every single "explanation" you've given is 100% complete speculation on your part, and not a single reason you've given makes any sense when thought about for more than 30 seconds.
Ooooohhhh the irony:
I'm sure tons of people will tell you that "It's the same thing but BETTER! Look at all these new features!!!", but there is something going on here, and AT&T isn't being transparent about it.
 
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Yeah.... anything saying "lifetime" is really suspect. Lifetime of who or what? Could wind up being lifetime of the company before it's bought out and merged with someone else. With Tivo, I had a "lifetime subscription" to the service with my old set-top box, but the box died and they declared the subscription dead with it. So in that case, lifetime meant lifetime of the hardware you ran it on.



Well, I for one think its a pile of ********, but every company is doing it. I just got a letter from my Tom Tom GPS that I purchased with lifetime map updates a few yrs back. I specifically bought this GPS over a Garmin due to the free lifetime map updates.
They told me that they were phasing out the old GPS's with lifetime maps to introduce a new line of Tom Tom GPS's with life time maps. I tried to argue with them by telling them I was still "alive" and they could not discontinue my service, even called the BBB and wrote an official complain... BBB is useless too.
End up that Tom Tom said the Lifetime Map service was for the "lifetime of the technology", not the lifetime of the purchaser, yet they could not show me anywhere in my original contract where it stated that.
They did however offer me 10% off a new Tom Tom with the new Lifetime map feature....
Yea right!!!!!
 
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