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I sent this tip in to MacRumors over 3 weeks ago. My father is dating the top exec of AT&T and informed me of this acquisition. MacRumors didn't want to post it since I had no proof, I guess they should have believed me!

If I were you I'd stop saying that, because if it's true and the wrong person reads it, you might find yourself in jail, or your father's girlfriend will lose her job. Dummy.
 
AT&T, the only GSM phone carrier now after buying TMobile, can AT&T be considered an illegal monopoly?

There's no such thing as an illegal monopoly. There are things that monopolys cannot do that non-monopolys CAN, but there is no such thing as an illegal monopoly.
 
From a technological standpoint, this is good.

That's it.

I love T-Mobile and have been a customer for a few years now. Their customer service is always friendly and their prices—particularly for things like unlimited internet—are better than AT&T or Verizon. I also don't pay any extra monthly fees for the "privilege" of tethering.

3G coverage is a bit spotty... but I'm really sad about this since I'm sure AT&T will consume everything that's so nice about T-Mobile.
 
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ECUpirate44 said:
Now AT&T will make lots more money from T-Mobile and it's services and the growth from selling iPhone's there... of which Apple will also grow it's iPhone market share...

There's always a plan...
:D

T-Mobile will not carry the iPhone.

T-mobile will carry the iPhone. In about a year T-Mobile stores near At&T stores will close. The other stores will remain open as AT&T stores. At that time they will get the iPhone. T-Mobile will cease to exist. Customers will be billed from AT@T. This is what happened with the Verizon Alltell merger.
 
"The transaction is said to improve network quality, expand the reach of LTE to more then 294 million people."

Um, unless they are a) moving T-Mobiles network physically or b) buying and installing a whole bunch of new equipment (or modifying the existing equipment to work properly), this transaction will do neither.

Unless, of course, T-Mobile has created an LTE network that covered the US, but was refusing to let anybody in the US sign up to use it.

The merger of Vodafone and Three networks in Australia is still ongoing. Complications with current contracts with other Telcos, customers, and different underlying hardware, among other things. Hopefully this will go more smoothly.

What I'm wondering is whether the merger is being approached broadly as moving the entire T-mobile GSM (1900Mhz) network to LTE (1900Mhz) - rather than combining the 1900Mhz networks? The LTE coverage would be broader, the T-mobile towers are already optimised locations/density for that frequency - and of course the T-mobile towers would also start offering AT&T GSM on 1900Mhz (and 3G-850 and 3G-1900) so no loss of quality for existing T-mobile subscribers.

It might be true in the short run, but you bet that AT&T will reduce the tower count to the bare minimum over time. This merger isn't about improving service for existing customers—it's about raising profits. The best way to raise profits (at least according to the people who run AT&T given their decisions since they were known as SBC) is not to improve customer service and satisfaction or provide a better product, but reduce competition and squeeze every bit out of the capital assets they have.

What does this mean in the long run? Fewer towers, poor cell service, poor customer service, and higher prices for consumers.

If the demand for data is 10 times higher in 5 years (as they forecast), then doubling their tower density might be the bare minimum.

Of course the merger is about raising profits. There are less overheads in a merged company - the surprise is that most people believe that the less overheads are good even if competition suffers. The question is how many companies are needed to have REAL competition.
 
From a technological standpoint, this is good.

That's it.

I love T-Mobile and have been a customer for a few years now. Their customer service is always friendly and their prices—particularly for things like unlimited internet—are better than AT&T or Verizon. I also don't pay any extra monthly fees for the "privilege" of tethering.

3G coverage is a bit spotty... but I'm really sad about this since I'm sure AT&T will consume everything that's so nice about T-Mobile.

Welcome to Hell

AT&T serves bread and water in weekdays and nothing on weekends.On Dear Leaders birthday, we are allowed one Jelly Bean. Last year I got a pink one.
 
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T-mobile will carry the iPhone. In about a year T-Mobile stores near At&T stores will close. The other stores will remain open as AT&T stores. At that time they will get the iPhone. T-Mobile will cease to exist. Customers will be billed from AT@T. This is what happened with the Verizon Alltell merger.

Except t mobile has already said that's not happening. They will still be an independent company.
 
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applefanDrew said:
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T-mobile will carry the iPhone. In about a year T-Mobile stores near At&T stores will close. The other stores will remain open as AT&T stores. At that time they will get the iPhone. T-Mobile will cease to exist. Customers will be billed from AT@T. This is what happened with the Verizon Alltell merger.

Except t mobile has already said that's not happening. They will still be an independent company.

Independent for a year.
 
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T-mobile will carry the iPhone. In about a year T-Mobile stores near At&T stores will close. The other stores will remain open as AT&T stores. At that time they will get the iPhone. T-Mobile will cease to exist. Customers will be billed from AT@T. This is what happened with the Verizon Alltell merger.

Exactly the case, this is how all these things work, gotta wait ;)

By the way I just want 0.0001% of the 39 Billion
 
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AceFernalld said:
Except t mobile has already said that's not happening. They will still be an independent company.

Until the merger is complete. The whole point of this merger is for them to ... well ... merge. Coverage, plans, and phones will be consolidated from T-Mobile & AT&T into AT&T.

Yep. As long as T-mobile is T-Mobile their will be no IPhone. When the merger is complete the Ipone will be available. Got that folks?
 
At&t Hit list this week

at the number one spot:

"There Goes my Tethering" By MyWi

and at the Number 3 spot and climbing

"Bye Bye T, hello Customers, ( there goes your service)" By the CEO of At&t

and the hits keep a coming, with the renewed success of At&t the only people suffering is, All of US!:eek:
 
B/c of contracts.

LOL, no... If someone is going in and buying a new iPhone and CHOOSING AT&T, it has nothing to do with contracts. It has to do with choosing a real data network and a company for 3 years that has proven to be able to expand and grow with the huge iPhone boom.

iPhone users do not want a Verizon data network from 1997. Commercials can get you press (which worked for Verizon), but you have to deliver the good to get the customers. Verizon isn't ready.
 
Doubts

I can't see how this will pass US regulators they will likely have to divest in different areas.

Overall it's good for AT&T and bad for everyone. It means jobs lost, quality falling, less choice and higher prices.

As more mobile data devices come online they want to nickel and dime for bandwidth. This has to stop.

AT&T fine print, hidden fees, everything costs extra is why many people don't use them and go with tmobile


I sure hope this gets blocked and fast.
 
This takes away one of the two carriers (Sprint being the other) who competed on price. T-Mobile also was lenient on tethering (unlike AT&T). That said, it's an easy technological merger, apart from T-Mobile's use of the AWS band. Perhaps the iPhone 6 will be penta-band 3G to support T-Mobile's AWS band (so that AT&T can take advantage of all that spectrum to ease pressure on its network).

Back in the old days, Cingular and T-Mobile did a lot of network sharing. When Cingular/SBC acquired AT&T Wireless, that came to an end, and Cingular/AT&T's network suffered as a result. This would be a reunion of sorts, and greatly improve AT&T's network. That said, it would eliminate a competitor, and unlike a Sprint/T-Mobile deal would not create an equal to the "Big 2." It just makes one of the Big 2 bigger, and puts pressure on Sprint and Verizon to merge. I don't think the FCC or FTC would tolerate a duopoly.
 
F--- at&t

This totally sucks. I loved T-Mobile as an alternate to AT&T's GSM service (of which I had prior and found their service awful and overpriced) and now I will have to decide between letting myself get pulled back into the orbit of AT&T's craptacular phone & customer service or jump on the Metro PCS bandwagon. Talk about a singular piece of news ruining an otherwise perfectly good day. :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
Apple should have made the jump firs. Then they had had their very own carrier

Hell NO!!. If Apple buy AT&T or any carrier network., then Apple will have to do this....

1. Throw ALL non-Apple device such Blackberry, Palm, etc.... If so, then lost customers, then lose profit (waste money).
2. Discipline all employee to become "Apple Ethics & Culture". If employee don't change, fired them, pay federal tax for unemployment. - OR - create big mixed problem with Apple headquarter. Messy!!!

So obvious, Steve Jobs is brilliant to not buy messy.
 
I'm guessing I'll lose my even more plan from Tmobile. I really liked their choices for plans. I figure more money and lower quality of customer service. The good news is I may finally buy an iPhone.
 
Welcome to the Dark Side, Luke...

Heck no! I won't go! Resistance is NOT few-tile. The at&t logo looks like the Death Star.

I'm planning on returning the new Samsung Galaxy S that I just got from a T-Mobile store this week. I left Cingular and chose T-Mobile for a reason, and I refuse to be assimilated back into that collective. Period. I was reasonably happy with the OLD AT&T Wireless, but when Cingular bought up the scraps as AT&T was sawing off limbs to survive, they pretty much destroyed it. And even that didn't bother me as much as the way they treated their newly purchased "acquisitions". Rai$ing the Bill, applying new "old handset fees" and generally wrecking what had been a good thing. No thanks. I'm not going through all that again.

I'll get out from under the new contract within the 14-day period, then ride out my 4-line family plan to see what happens and how it clinks through the regulatory process. But I can assure everyone that at&t or AT&T (or whatever they're calling themselves this year) will not be getting one cent of revenue from me. Ever.

Dave In Minneapolis
 
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