They haven't said it won't be eligible for the FAN. So maybe the $5 extra is just $3.75.
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AT&T to Raise Price of Grandfathered Unlimited Plans From $30 to $35
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Ok, so this goes into effect in February... and then you have 60 days to get out of ATT ETF-free... any chance Apple sells the iPhone 7 by April?
ZERO chance.
When I look at my plan on AT&T's site it says "Texts Unlimited" and "Data Unlimited". This goes back to unlimited being truly unlimited. I haven't been throttled since March or April so I'm happy with the service and will take a $5.00 increase.
Just took a look at my new bill. Haven't looked at the past bills but I think this is new. I'm showing a $.61 Administrative Fee listed for my phone and iPad plans.
Just took a look at my new bill. Haven't looked at the past bills but I think this is new. I'm showing a $.61 Administrative Fee listed for my phone and iPad plans.
Seems like the only people complaining are those who DON'T have unlimited data.
There are plenty of choices in the U.S. aside from
- AT&T
- Verizon
- T Mobile
- Sprint
There's also:
- H2O Wireless
- Cricket
- Boost Mobile
- Red Pocket
- Consumer Celluar
- Ting
- Freedom Pop
- Ring Plus
- Straight Talk
- Trac Fone
- Virgin Mobile
- Republic Wireless
- Page Plus
- BYO
- Total Wireless
- Net10 Wireless
What I find hilarious is: If att has such a small number of unlimited data accounts still active, then how is a price hike of $5 going to help them make more revenue? They're just trying to pi$$ people off and get on a different data plan and $5 is enough for most tight a$$ people. I may switch to TMobile, but very wary of coverage with them. I've been with Att since first iPhone and will probably just stay out of laziness. LOL
Sad but true. I shortened the quote but strongly agree! All your points are right on point! Also kudos for having the ballz to say what needed to be said
I strongly disagree with what you have stated here. At least regarding the portion of your statement that has to do with ATT.
It is possible to abuse unlimited data. Some unlimited data users were jail breaking their iPhones and tethering the phones to every device in their house. That is abusive. But using unlimited data just on the phone is not abusive. Even if you use 100GB a month, it's not abusive.
I'm going open a billing dispute with Att , they should remove me from the contract and allow to stay on contract free base. Contract is an agreement between two sides. If one side changes the term/terms of the contract the contract is over. At&t can stick their 60 days 60 inch deep and rotate them there 60 times. They should remove me from the contract, period. I don't agree with 60 days ETF.
For example, I pay my mortgage with a low rate, suddenly my bank increase the rate and give me 60 days to move to another house. Is it normal? - NO!!!
No, no and no this is a legal issue and I expect a group court case here. Why 60 days, not 30 days or 90 days? I don't agree with the changes, I like the service, don't want to switch, want to be out of the contract.
"IF WE INCREASE THE PRICE OF ANY OF THE SERVICES TO WHICH YOU SUBSCRIBE, BEYOND THE LIMITS SET FORTH IN YOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE SUMMARY, OR IF WE MATERIALLY DECREASE THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA IN WHICH YOUR AIRTIME RATE APPLIES (OTHER THAN A TEMPORARY DECREASE FOR REPAIRS OR MAINTENANCE), WE’LL DISCLOSE THE CHANGE AT LEAST ONE BILLING CYCLE IN ADVANCE (EITHER THROUGH A NOTICE WITH YOUR BILL, A TEXT MESSAGE TO YOUR DEVICE, OR OTHERWISE), AND YOU MAY TERMINATE THIS AGREEMENT WITHOUT PAYING AN EARLY TERMINATION FEE OR RETURNING OR PAYING FOR ANY PROMOTIONAL ITEMS, PROVIDED YOUR NOTICE OF TERMINATION IS DELIVERED TO US WITHIN THIRTY (30) DAYS AFTER THE FIRST BILL REFLECTING THE CHANGE."
I didn't find anything about 60 days and another provider here
For example, I pay my mortgage with a low rate, suddenly my bank increase the rate and give me 60 days to move to another house. Is it normal? - NO!!!
No, no and no this is a legal issue and I expect a group court case here. Why 60 days, not 30 days or 90 days? I don't agree with the changes, I like the service, don't want to switch, want to be out of the contract.
"IF WE INCREASE THE PRICE OF ANY OF THE SERVICES TO WHICH YOU SUBSCRIBE, BEYOND THE LIMITS SET FORTH IN YOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE SUMMARY, OR IF WE MATERIALLY DECREASE THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA IN WHICH YOUR AIRTIME RATE APPLIES (OTHER THAN A TEMPORARY DECREASE FOR REPAIRS OR MAINTENANCE), WE’LL DISCLOSE THE CHANGE AT LEAST ONE BILLING CYCLE IN ADVANCE (EITHER THROUGH A NOTICE WITH YOUR BILL, A TEXT MESSAGE TO YOUR DEVICE, OR OTHERWISE), AND YOU MAY TERMINATE THIS AGREEMENT WITHOUT PAYING AN EARLY TERMINATION FEE OR RETURNING OR PAYING FOR ANY PROMOTIONAL ITEMS, PROVIDED YOUR NOTICE OF TERMINATION IS DELIVERED TO US WITHIN THIRTY (30) DAYS AFTER THE FIRST BILL REFLECTING THE CHANGE."
I didn't find anything about 60 days and another provider here
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Thank you for your explanation on how this could be abused.
Reasonable would be raising yours and everyone else's rates too, because ya know increased costs, inflation, etc.
Considering that the unlimited subscribers are longer term, more loyal customers, the increase should be a magnitude or two greater for everyone not on unlimited plans. You've made due with less for more, so what's the harm in a little more for less? AT&T needs to make a profit, and the unlimited subscribers are such a tiny number of long standing customers (who are incidentally paying much more for the voice part, other services and overages on their grandfathered plans). There's way more cash to still be squeezed from the overwhelming majority of non grandfathered subscribers.
According to your own logic, you should consider a $20-30/month increase totally reasonable for your plan and contract service length. You're getting such 'amazing' service and so privileged to pay a government protected (guaranteed profit) private industry, that you should get down on your knees and worship your corporate overlords in gratitude.
For more than a few people $60/year is a big increase, for some it's not. AT&T chose their timing right after the two most popular periods (new iPhones in September and Xmas shopping season) for people renewing their 2 year contracts, it's a total dick move.
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Yeah if you're switching carriers. The person said they were gonna use it to get out of their contract BUT keep ATT. I was just making sure he/she knew that wasn't the case.
This would be more of a contract dispute
( which most carriers should have special staff for those lingering on contracts or on installment plans )
Also pretty sure legally if it goes beyond speaking to them 1st legal recourse would be arbitration
Does anyone know when/how you can opt out of this?
I'm paying around $155 for 2 lines with unlimited data and text.
I can switch to TMobile and get 4 lines with unlimited talk/text and 6GB of data for each line and only pay $120. We already have 1 TMobile line and the service is fine.
I'm paying around $155 for 2 lines with unlimited data and text.
I can switch to TMobile and get 4 lines with unlimited talk/text and 6GB of data for each line and only pay $120. We already have 1 TMobile line and the service is fine.
That's what I am doing, comedy while I watch, Walking Dead. $35 for unlimited! If you wanted to (and you have this grandfathered) you could buy an iPad, connect it to your Mac/Server to run as your "cable modem" for your house and every device could have unlimited internet, you can even hook an Airport to serve good Wi-Fi too. $35 bucks? shoe. Then you would go thru about 50-75 GB a month (would be more for others, I know
but still that would be sick cord/bill cutting! (Oh yeah I forgot about can't tether). If you jailbreak an iOS device can you tether? If you could then you could do what I said...dohLaters...
I like the way people say 5 is better than 2
Att calls it bill dispute:
"CHARGES AND DISPUTES
You are responsible for paying all charges for or resulting from services provided under this Agreement. You will receive monthly bills that are due in full as shown thereon. YOU MUST, WITHIN 100 DAYS OF THE DATE OF THE BILL, NOTIFY US IN WRITING AT AT&T, BILL DISPUTE, 1025 LENOX PARK., ATLANTA, GA 30319 ("AT&T'S ADDRESS") OF ANY DISPUTE YOU HAVE WITH RESPECT TO THE BILL, INCLUDING ANY CHARGES ON THE BILL AND ANY SERVICE WE PROVIDED FOR WHICH YOU WERE BILLED, OR YOU WILL HAVE WAIVED YOUR RIGHT TO DISPUTE THE BILL OR SUCH SERVICES AND TO BRING, OR PARTICIPATE IN, ANY LEGAL ACTION RAISING ANY SUCH DISPUTE. Charges include, without limitation, airtime, roaming, recurring monthly service, activation, administrative, and late payment charges; regulatory cost recovery and other surcharges; optional feature charges; toll, collect call and directory assistance charges; restoral and reactivation charges; any other charges or calls billed to your phone number; and applicable taxes and governmental fees, whether assessed directly upon you or upon AT&T. To determine your primary place of use ("PPU") and which jurisdiction's taxes and assessments to collect, you are required to provide us with your residential or business street address. If you do not provide us with such address, or if it falls outside our licensed service area, we may reasonably designate a PPU within the licensed service area for you. Subscriber must live and have a mailing address within AT&T's owned network coverage area"
I read the contract again and I see nothing about 60 days and the other provider to switch. If I can change all the contracts with such an easy manner I be far more rich that Mr. Trump.
Let say I borrow some money under 90 percent a year and... I change just one term that I return them in 60 thousand years.
Att calls it bill dispute:
"CHARGES AND DISPUTES
You are responsible for paying all charges for or resulting from services provided under this Agreement. You will receive monthly bills that are due in full as shown thereon. YOU MUST, WITHIN 100 DAYS OF THE DATE OF THE BILL, NOTIFY US IN WRITING AT AT&T, BILL DISPUTE, 1025 LENOX PARK., ATLANTA, GA 30319 ("AT&T'S ADDRESS") OF ANY DISPUTE YOU HAVE WITH RESPECT TO THE BILL, INCLUDING ANY CHARGES ON THE BILL AND ANY SERVICE WE PROVIDED FOR WHICH YOU WERE BILLED, OR YOU WILL HAVE WAIVED YOUR RIGHT TO DISPUTE THE BILL OR SUCH SERVICES AND TO BRING, OR PARTICIPATE IN, ANY LEGAL ACTION RAISING ANY SUCH DISPUTE. Charges include, without limitation, airtime, roaming, recurring monthly service, activation, administrative, and late payment charges; regulatory cost recovery and other surcharges; optional feature charges; toll, collect call and directory assistance charges; restoral and reactivation charges; any other charges or calls billed to your phone number; and applicable taxes and governmental fees, whether assessed directly upon you or upon AT&T. To determine your primary place of use ("PPU") and which jurisdiction's taxes and assessments to collect, you are required to provide us with your residential or business street address. If you do not provide us with such address, or if it falls outside our licensed service area, we may reasonably designate a PPU within the licensed service area for you. Subscriber must live and have a mailing address within AT&T's owned network coverage area"
I read the contract again and I see nothing about 60 days and the other provider to switch. If I can change all the contracts with such an easy manner I be far more rich that Mr. Trump.
Let say I borrow some money under 90 percent a year and... I change just one term that I return them in 60 thousand years.
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Cricket uses the same att network. Maybe switch to that. I put my 16 year old on a cricket plan for $30 a month. She's very happy with it. It's cheap and I've never had an issue getting a hold of her (or tracking her location. The data connection is always solid).
Over on the Verizon thread when they raised the unlimited data rate by $20/month, many people decided it was still worth it to them to keep their unlimited. So AT&T still has some headroom for more increases.
Although us Verizon customers might just be more used to getting screwed when they took away our ability to use subsidies on the unlimited lines several years ago.
I am guessing that AT&T still has a TON of unlimited subscribers. They have made it very easy to stay grandfathered on your plan. Most AT&T folks I know still have their unlimited lines. On the other hand, I was the only Verizon customer I knew who was still holding onto my unlimited plan several years after the elimination of the subsidy. Most people switched off those plans when they hit that wall. No one wants to pay $700 for an iPhone. I had many coworkers express shock and disbelief that iPhones cost that much $$. So they gave up their data plans.