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Unlimited plans start at $75 for a single user. Not worth it if there's a cheaper plan out there less than $50.
 
if I can get on it, I think I might trade my SE2 128 and get the 12 Pro 128 Pacific Blue tomorrow

Even if I miss jailbreak, it'll come around again. Such a good deal.

And the added battery / camera specs / OLED screen and a14 and stuff probably worth the 'hassle'
 
For those concerned about needing 30 months to get all of the bill credits to add up to the $800, you can still get a new phone earlier. Just switch the SIM card to your new phone, and hold off selling the iPhone 12 until after you get the 30th bill credit. However, if you need to trade in your iPhone 12 in order to afford a new phone, you're screwed.
 
For those concerned about needing 30 months to get all of the bill credits to add up to the $800, you can still get a new phone earlier. Just switch the SIM card to your new phone, and hold off selling the iPhone 12 until after you get the 30th bill credit. However, if you need to trade in your iPhone 12 in order to afford a new phone, you're screwed.

can you sell it privately locked telling the seller the caveat or shuffle it ontoanother line in the family ?
 
If a person qualifies for the $800 credit and in 12 months decides to upgrade, then, the person could buy a phone from Apple without losing the remaining 18 months worth of credit. You're saying that would work when buying the phone outright from Apple. What about if you do the iPhone upgrade plan, would that not work?

You could definitely buy a phone outright from apple and use that, and I believe you could buy a phone through the apple iUp plan as well, since that wouldn’t be financed through ATT.

However, the tricky thing about doing this is figuring out what to do with the financed iPhone 12. As I said, as long as you keep that line active then ATT will keep billing you for the installment plan and keep giving you credits, but you won’t be able to trade that phone in to Apple or anyone else because when they run the IMEI they will see that it is still financed. If you have a friend or family member that you could give it to, then that would work. But if you are planning to sell it or trade it in 12 months down the line then you will probably have problems.
 
So I've read a few posts on here saying that old unlimited plans qualify for the $800 trade-in value... I'm not sure who these people are talking to, but I've discussed this with three separate AT&T representatives (two over the phone, one in person), and they all have said the same thing- you'll need to upgrade your plan to Unlimited Starter, Unlimited Extra or Unlimited Elite to take advantage of the promotion.

Also, they tell me that if you do decide to order your iPhone 12 online tomorrow, you will need to send in your phone (cannot drop it off at a store). If you hold off and preorder in person at a store, then you can trade your old iPhone in at that time in person.

This all seems to be overly complicated moments before preorders go live!!
 
It’s the 5g that’s fueling this. They want you on their networks. Best to take advantage of this.

:)
 
can you sell it privately locked telling the seller the caveat or shuffle it ontoanother line in the family ?

Good question. My guess is yes, but not sure what ATT would do once they see that the phone is attached to another line. It should work, but if ATT can figure out a way to screw you (or the new owner of the phone), they will.
 
I am not entirely sure, but I don't think that's correct if you plan to take advantage of the $800 offer. The fine print says "This is not an early upgrade program. Trade-in device may not be on existing installment plan."

Maybe others have a different take, but I paid off the rest of my existing installment plan so that I don't encounter any issues when the preorders begin tomorrow.
This is my understanding as well. To take advantage of the $800 trade in offer; the phone must be paid off. If you want to trade in your phone as part of the standard Next program you would not qualify for the $800 trade in. You would proceed as normal. Upgrade to new phone then send AT&T old phone to satisfy the installments.
 
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I miss the days when every two years users could get the newest iphones at a discount (they just had to stay with their cell provider for another two years). The days when the iPhone 4/5 were only like 200-300 dollars lol. They should have just keep that plan instead of the stuff we have now.
Secret tip: you can still call into ATT loyalty and request the old 2 year contracts. And by the way, the iPhone was never that cost, the carriers baked the actual cost of the phone into your wireless service. But the problem was when you were done paying off the cost of the phone after 2 years, your wireless service was still the same price.
 
Unlimited plans start at $75 for a single user. Not worth it if there's a cheaper plan out there less than $50.
If you have Signature Discount, it drops to $65. The only cheaper plans than that are prepaid plans
 
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You could definitely buy a phone outright from apple and use that, and I believe you could buy a phone through the apple iUp plan as well, since that wouldn’t be financed through ATT.

However, the tricky thing about doing this is figuring out what to do with the financed iPhone 12. As I said, as long as you keep that line active then ATT will keep billing you for the installment plan and keep giving you credits, but you won’t be able to trade that phone in to Apple or anyone else because when they run the IMEI they will see that it is still financed. If you have a friend or family member that you could give it to, then that would work. But if you are planning to sell it or trade it in 12 months down the line then you will probably have problems.

Brett - thanks for bringing up the point about the clear IMEI. I think in all likelihood, I would either want to sell the phone in 12 or 24 months depending upon if I wanted the iPhone 13 or 14. And to your point, I would then not be able to easily sell it unless it was a friend/family member that trusted me to pay off the remaining installments.

I was thinking about specifically buying a phone for the sole purpose of trading in that phone to AT&T. So if the phone costs $300 or so, it could take awhile to get payback and more than likely I wouldn't want to keep the phone past 24 months.
 
So I've read a few posts on here saying that old unlimited plans qualify for the $800 trade-in value... I'm not sure who these people are talking to, but I've discussed this with three separate AT&T representatives (two over the phone, one in person), and they all have said the same thing- you'll need to upgrade your plan to Unlimited Starter, Unlimited Extra or Unlimited Elite to take advantage of the promotion.

Also, they tell me that if you do decide to order your iPhone 12 online tomorrow, you will need to send in your phone (cannot drop it off at a store). If you hold off and preorder in person at a store, then you can trade your old iPhone in at that time in person.

This all seems to be overly complicated moments before preorders go live!!

I don't think the deal would say "for existing customers" if it was only existing customers not on an unlimited plan. New, unlimited and existing customers, on a qualified unlimited plan.
 
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I wonder what’s happens if you go thought the whole process and ATT Decides not to give you the whole $800 credit ? If they deem the condition one trade in is not up to their standards?
 
I am not entirely sure, but I don't think that's correct if you plan to take advantage of the $800 offer. The fine print says "This is not an early upgrade program. Trade-in device may not be on existing installment plan."

Maybe others have a different take, but I paid off the rest of my existing installment plan so that I don't encounter any issues when the preorders begin tomorrow.

I did the same thing. You need to own the phone outright, i.e. no more installments remaining. Otherwise you just trade in the device w/o the lower monthly payment credits. I just paid off the last 8 payments to qualify for this. This is an incentive to lock people in for 30 months. Makes sense for AT&T and Verizon who are competing hard for 5G customers.
 
what is the catch? Do you have to sign a contract or something?
Yea catch is it's by bill credits which cease if you cancel, and the rest of the installments are accelerated and due immediately. But if you don't flip flop carriers, the deal is insanely good. An 8 in good condition will be worth enough to get the $800. Verizon's deal is only $500 for my 11PM and an 8 is worth a pittance!
 
I don't think the deal would say "for existing customers" if it was only existing customers not on an unlimited plan. New, unlimited and existing customers, on a qualified unlimited plan.

What I meant is if you're on an older unlimited plan, you'll need to upgrade to newer plan. If you're already an existing customer on one of the newer plans, you're good to go.
 
Yea catch is it's by bill credits which cease if you cancel, and the rest of the installments are accelerated and due immediately. But if you don't flip flop carriers, the deal is insanely good. An 8 in good condition will be worth enough to get the $800. Verizon's deal is only $500 for my 11PM and an 8 is worth a pittance!

yeah I’m pretty sure I’m gonna do it. Trade up my se2 for a 12pro
 
I wonder what’s happens if you go thought the whole process and ATT Decides not to give you the whole $800 credit ? If they deem the condition one trade in is not up to their standards?

The fine print says that the trade in needs to be worth at least $95 after answering the condition questions at http://tradin.att.com. So if you have a newer more expensive phone with some damage you will still be ok. If you have an older phone that might barely make the $95 cutoff in good condition then you might have a problem if the phone has some damage.
 
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I still can't decide which way to purchase.

If they continue to offer the $5 upgrade option, I'd still be getting $320 in credits after 12 months which is better than nothing. It's not the full $800, obviously, but without having to pay off the device early, 30 months is an awkward amount of time if you want a new phone on or around release dates of future models.

No. No credits if you do Next Up, because the trade in is already part of that program. There's no financial advantage to doing Next Up. You're essentially renting a phone every year (*15 months now grr) to get the latest phone.

The 30 month deal gets you the phone outright (with a trade in) for free to half price, depending on what. you buy, but you're locked in to 30 months. If you do 12 months, you still save some $ but need to pay off half the phone before you can upgrade. With Next Up - you don't.

I am sure some genius can figure out the math on this but something tells me its similar either way IF you want to upgrade every year. If you don't - the trade in w/credits is by far the best deal.
 
I don’t have to order iPhone 12 from att site tomorrow in order to get this deal right?
 
I am not entirely sure, but I don't think that's correct if you plan to take advantage of the $800 offer. The fine print says "This is not an early upgrade program. Trade-in device may not be on existing installment plan."

Maybe others have a different take, but I paid off the rest of my existing installment plan so that I don't encounter any issues when the preorders begin tomorrow.

No, no credits with Next Up (it says so in the fine print) - but you get to trade in the phone and have your remaining year's due be forgiven - which is $300-600 plus depending on your phone. That's what I will likely do, because it's basically AT&T's version of the iPhone Upgrade Program. It's a rent-to-own kind of plan.

Otherwise you will have to pay off your phone (Mine still have $600 and change remaining on it), own it outright, and then you can submit that for the $800 credit. Is that cheaper? Maybe (Might net save like $200 over the life of the phone), but that locks you into 30 months - or losing more money down the line.

This deal is only great if you have a qualifying phone and keep your phone for 2+ years. Which yes is a lot of people. If you always get the latest thing - no. Next Up is the better "deal" but you aren't getting any credits.
 
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As I said earlier, this deal seems to good to be true. Especially if you stick with ATT(I have for 10 years) and can wait the extra 6 months ( I always keep my phone for at least 24 months). I hope it’s still available when the Pro Max is for sale.
 
You could definitely buy a phone outright from apple and use that, and I believe you could buy a phone through the apple iUp plan as well, since that wouldn’t be financed through ATT.

However, the tricky thing about doing this is figuring out what to do with the financed iPhone 12. As I said, as long as you keep that line active then ATT will keep billing you for the installment plan and keep giving you credits, but you won’t be able to trade that phone in to Apple or anyone else because when they run the IMEI they will see that it is still financed. If you have a friend or family member that you could give it to, then that would work. But if you are planning to sell it or trade it in 12 months down the line then you will probably have problems.

yeah and you're still paying for two phones at the same time. One is cheaper... but it's still more $$.
 
Do I remember reading somehwere in the previous pages about AT&T offering less trade in if you're ordering a 12 Pro? My wife is getting that (and upon reconsideration, I am too), and we have 2 XR's to trade in. Just wanted to check to make sure that we are gonna get the best deal.
 
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