Carrier AT&T vs Verizon (4 lines with 10GB shared data)

[irDigital0l]

Are this Next and Edge plans only good for those that want to upgrade every 6 months?

I assume, if you just want a shared plan and upgrade every 2 years its not worth it.

 

[T5BRICK]

That's not a apples to apples comparisons.

ATT mobile share is $100/10gb plus $15/smartphone line. So 4 lines equals $60.
$160/month.

Verizon EDGE is now $100/10gb plus $20/smartphone. So 4 line equals $80. $180/month.

So verizon edge is $20/month more than ATT.

Don't think that's significant enough to have people switch from verizon to ATT. This is Verizon's move to make it somewhat a lateral more to ATT. $20/month extra isn't significant enough. If it's 3 lines than it $15/month extra. Even less reasons to switch.

You're missing the part about the edge plan where you have to make monthly payments on the phones ON TOP of your service plans. Don't forget to add those in.

*edit* never mind. I didn't notice that you weren't adding the phone cost on AT&T either.

Although, thinking about it, $20 x 24 months is $480 difference over two years. It adds up.

 

[aneftp]

Are this Next and Edge plans only good for those that want to upgrade every 6 months?

I assume, if you just want a shared plan and upgrade every 2 years its not worth it.

Verizon still requires 50% of the phone to be paid off. So you technically can upgrade even at 30 days or 6 months. But u would be an idiot to do it. Let's say you pay for iPhone 5s $27.50 or whatever the price is.

In order to "upgrade" on edge. You would have to pay $325 of the $650 retail price regardless if it's 6 months or 30 days.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/news/article/2013/07/edge-device-payment-early-upgrade.html

Remember you MUST TRADE IN the iPhone 5s. You can't keep it unless you pay it off completely. So you are better odd just paying the full price $650. Sell if off in 6 months goes yourself. I can assure you a 6 month iPhone 5S goes for a lot more than $325 that verizon excepts you to pay up.

 

[T5BRICK]

Are this Next and Edge plans only good for those that want to upgrade every 6 months?

I assume, if you just want a shared plan and upgrade every 2 years its not worth it.

It depends on which plan you're on now. Add up the service cost over 2 years, plus whatever you have to pay up front for your phones, and then do the same for the new plan.

 

[jredecop]

Does the edge allow you to pay the phone off and it's yours?? I really like that about the next program, pay it off and it's yours and the finance fee is removed from your bill, and no contract. I'm not sure if Verizon's edge work that way? Contract free? Option to pay off phone, own it, and remove the phone finance from bill??

I also switched to att about 5 weeks ago and couldn't be happier. I actually have more lte, and when I don't I have 4g where there is only 3G verizon and my bill is 70-80 a month cheaper.

 

[T5BRICK]

Does the edge allow you to pay the phone off and it's yours?? I really like that about the next program, pay it off and it's yours and the finance fee is removed from your bill, and no contract. I'm not sure if Verizon's edge work that way? Contract free? Option to pay off phone, own it, and remove the phone finance from bill??

With Verizon Edge, if you pay off the phone, you own it.

My issue with this is that once the phone is paid off it appears that the service discount you get for being on the edge program goes away and it goes back to $40 per line.

 

[jredecop]

With Verizon Edge, if you pay off the phone, you own it.

My issue with this is that once the phone is paid off it appears that the service discount you get for being on the edge program goes away and it goes back to $40 per line.

Ouch. Ya, att is 15. That can add up fast. Are you still under contract once the phone is paid off?

 

[T5BRICK]

Ouch. Ya, att is 15. That can add up fast. Are you still under contract once the phone is paid off?

From the way their website reads, no, after you pay off the phone you're free to go.

 

[Gunlance]

if you read the fine print. it only comes out to 160$ if you buy your phones outright or bring your phone to att. also if you buy your phone through their "next" promotion.
i know that i don't have 750$ for an iPhone 5s (32gb)
and if you go through their next program you're monthly bill will include the price of the phone.
if you are like me and get a 2 year contract with your new phone the price is the same as verizon.

750 is the cost of the 32gb iPhone. The carrier doesn't make it cost less. You just spread out the payments which is what the NEXT program does. It's more complicated that that I know but I am just irked by the "I can't afford $750", which to me means that you shouldn't have an iPhone if you can't afford it.

 

[I7guy]

I have both ATT and verizon. I have noticed a significant slow down from 2011 to 2014 with verizon.

Verizon lte couldn't handle a little Tennessee resort town the few days leading up to New Year's Eve while ATT lte was working. I mean I couldn't get any data going after 6pm. Than verizon lte data would work magically around 5am when traffic was low (I had kids so up early).

Same thing happened recently in orlando during peak times with tourists with verizon.

There is only one conclusion on my part since I am early adopter. Since iPhone 5 was released. This has been the main factor with verizon lte.

I have noticed a significant bump in speeds. Your mileage will vary based on the latitude and longigtude of where your phone is located. My test was not taken at odd hours. Seen enough threads where people were saying exactly the same thing about ATT.

 

[aneftp]

From the way their website reads, no, after you pay off the phone you're free to go.

What if you don't want to go? And stay on Verizon?

This is the big problem with Verizon's edge/more share everything. They don't discount if you bring your phone your own phone in or pay it off.

I am Verizon and ATT shareholder. The markets didn't respond kindly when new ATT mobile sharing program was released earlier this month. Both Verizon and ATT stocks took an instant hit Feb 3rd.

Verizon must be confident in their churn rate won't be affected by tmobile or ATT. We will see the next 2-3 quarters.

 

[C DM]

What if you don't want to go? And stay on Verizon?

This is the big problem with Verizon's edge/more share everything. They don't discount if you bring your phone your own phone in or pay it off.

I am Verizon and ATT shareholder. The markets didn't respond kindly when new ATT mobile sharing program was released earlier this month. Both Verizon and ATT stocks took an instant hit Feb 3rd.

Verizon must be confident in their churn rate won't be affected by tmobile or ATT. We will see the next 2-3 quarters.

Yeah, unfortunately VZW really only did half a job with the new plans as far as them being comparable to
AT&T.

 

[Tech guy]

I think verizon has better survis because someone I know has atnt and keeps saying can you hear me and I have 2 bars but atnt is making a lot of improvements

 

[I7guy]

I think verizon has better survis because someone I know has atnt and keeps saying can you hear me and I have 2 bars but atnt is making a lot of improvements

It all dpends on location, weather and the phones.

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Yeah, unfortunately VZW really only did half a job with the new plans as far as them being comparable to
AT&T.

I can't see verizon matching AT&T toe to toe. As i said in another post vzw must be confident they wont have a lot of churn.

 

[C DM]

It all dpends on location, weather and the phones.

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I can't see verizon matching AT&T toe to toe. As i said in another post vzw must be confident they wont have a lot of churn.

They generally have for the most part.

 

[T5BRICK]

I am Verizon and ATT shareholder. The markets didn't respond kindly when new ATT mobile sharing program was released earlier this month. Both Verizon and ATT stocks took an instant hit Feb 3rd.

Apples stocks took a hit after the iPhone 3G, 5 and 5s/5c were announced. I don't really think that is always a good indicator.

 

[EbookReader]

They generally have for the most part.

That was before.

This is now. AT&T came out with a competitive plan. T-Mobile is offering to pay for ETF.

Verizon will feel the pressure with churn.


Verizon has

1) No discount after your phone is paid off....unlike AT&T/T-Mobile/Sprint
2) No bring your own phone.....unlike AT&T/T-Mobile/Sprint.

 

[aneftp]

That was before.

This is now. AT&T came out with a competitive plan. T-Mobile is offering to pay for ETF.

Verizon will feel the pressure with churn.


Verizon has

1) No discount after your phone is paid off....unlike AT&T/T-Mobile/Sprint
2) No bring your own phone.....unlike AT&T/T-Mobile/Sprint.

Verizon has time. We all know in the USA. Launch of new iPhones encourage switches.

Right now verizon doesn't have to do much. When new iPhone comes out especially larger size as anticipated. Consumers on the fence about switching carriers will decide at that time.

 

[C DM]

That was before.

This is now. AT&T came out with a competitive plan. T-Mobile is offering to pay for ETF.

Verizon will feel the pressure with churn.


Verizon has

1) No discount after your phone is paid off....unlike AT&T/T-Mobile/Sprint
2) No bring your own phone.....unlike AT&T/T-Mobile/Sprint.

That's what I'm saying, the big ones usually matched each other fairly well (specifically AT&T and VZW) until now it seems, which is unfortunate.

 

[I7guy]

That's what I'm saying, the big ones usually matched each other fairly well (specifically AT&T and VZW) until now it seems, which is unfortunate.

Who is it unfortunate for? Consumers, shareholders or VZW corp? Seems to me VZW does not want to play tit-for-tat. Which is good for the company and shareholders, but bad for consumers.

 

[C DM]

Who is it unfortunate for? Consumers, shareholders or VZW corp? Seems to me VZW does not want to play tit-for-tat. Which is good for the company and shareholders, but bad for consumers.

For VZW customers (and I would say it's not really clear that it would be good for the company or shareholders if it ends up driving away more people than attracting them).

 

[jredecop]

If my family is any indication they will feel it. We were all with verizon and the past month either switched to tmobile or att.

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With Verizon Edge, if you pay off the phone, you own it.

My issue with this is that once the phone is paid off it appears that the service discount you get for being on the edge program goes away and it goes back to $40 per line.

So pretty much still paying for the phone, even when it's paid off.

 

[I7guy]

For VZW customers (and I would say it's not really clear that it would be good for the company or shareholders if it ends up driving away more people than attracting them).

That would depend if the revenue lost from churn is more (or less) than the revenue lost from decreased plan prices, wouldn't it? It really depends on accurately predicting the future value of these revenue streams.

 

[C DM]

That would depend if the revenue lost from churn is more (or less) than the revenue lost from decreased plan prices, wouldn't it? It really depends on accurately predicting the future value of these revenue streams.

Well the main aspect of it in what I posted is from the customer side of things, which is unfortunate.

 

[I7guy]

Well the main aspect of it is from the customer side of things, which is unfortunate.

Verizon isn't ATT and have marketed themselves as a premium network and is under no obligation to give away their services, and, do not have to play with ATT and T-Mobile. However, the market, meaning their consumers, will let them know how they feel about the price of their services.

I'm staying as at this point I'm grandfathered into a great plan.