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ATI fireGL X3 NOS on ebay
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I can confirm that an X800/FireGL X3 won't work in a QuickSilver.
I bought an X800 Pro a while ago and never got it to flash correctly in my PC. I was going to flash it in my QS but it didn't recognize the card at all in the AGP slot.
A month ago I had my MDD and gave the X800 another shot. It flashed fine and works perfectly. Tried to put it back in my QS: no luck. My Radeon 9800 Pro works in both Macs.
My QS was the base 733MHz, now upgraded to a Dual 800MHz a WITH L3 cache recognized and working.
I bought an X800 Pro a while ago and never got it to flash correctly in my PC. I was going to flash it in my QS but it didn't recognize the card at all in the AGP slot.
A month ago I had my MDD and gave the X800 another shot. It flashed fine and works perfectly. Tried to put it back in my QS: no luck. My Radeon 9800 Pro works in both Macs.
My QS was the base 733MHz, now upgraded to a Dual 800MHz a WITH L3 cache recognized and working.
What about the GL3s on ebay, they show working on a Quicksilver (Powermac 3,5)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161585867484?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161585867484?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
I've seen that auction.
The seller is covering himself with this:
I have tried TWO different AGP cards on my QS with taped pins. Both times the Mac will chime and boot, but absolutely refuses to see either card.
I hesitate to spend another $70 plus shipping just to find out that my specific G4 is one of the one's the seller can't guarantee compatibility on.
3,4 is the Digital Audio(very similar to a Quicksilver), 3,5 is the Quicksilver(all versions), and 3,6 is the MDD(all versions).
Either Erik and I just have have really temperamental QSs, or the seller is using a different version of the ROM that plays nicely with the QS.
BTW, I often use a DA as a testbed for QS experiments and prototyping, primarily because I can get to that particular DA easily and it's a non-essential machine for me(my Quicksilver is). For nearly all purposes, it's close enough to a Quicksilver that anything which will work in it will also work in a QS. I was not able to get the card to work in a DA either.
Either Erik and I just have have really temperamental QSs, or the seller is using a different version of the ROM that plays nicely with the QS.
BTW, I often use a DA as a testbed for QS experiments and prototyping, primarily because I can get to that particular DA easily and it's a non-essential machine for me(my Quicksilver is). For nearly all purposes, it's close enough to a Quicksilver that anything which will work in it will also work in a QS. I was not able to get the card to work in a DA either.
in the Digital audio screen shot I can see that he is using the latest 109 X800XT ROM... witch is what we are using here...
I think it has nothing to do with the ROMs. The Mac doesn't see the card at all even before flashing, it should list it as "VGA controller" or something like that, as it does in my MDD and did in my G5.
Thought I'd follow up and report that the card is now officially working in an MDD. I did need to install ATI drivers(even under Leopard) to get away from the grayscale screen. The drivers are available on the ATI website, but for those searching you will need to specify 10.4 or 10.3, as selecting 10.5 will tell you that no driver installation is necessary.
In any case, "pics or it didn't happen", so here is the screenshot.
Still no luck with this card in a Quicksilver or DA, but at least it's not collecting dust. Or, more properly, it's now collecting dust in a seldom used MDD rather than collecting dust on my desk
In any case, "pics or it didn't happen", so here is the screenshot.
Still no luck with this card in a Quicksilver or DA, but at least it's not collecting dust. Or, more properly, it's now collecting dust in a seldom used MDD rather than collecting dust on my desk
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Thought I'd follow up and report that the card is now officially working in an MDD. I did need to install ATI drivers(even under Leopard) to get away from the grayscale screen. The drivers are available on the ATI website, but for those searching you will need to specify 10.4 or 10.3, as selecting 10.5 will tell you that no driver installation is necessary.
In any case, "pics or it didn't happen", so here is the screenshot.
Still no luck with this card in a Quicksilver or DA, but at least it's not collecting dust. Or, more properly, it's now collecting dust in a seldom used MDD rather than collecting dust on my desk
Glad you were able to get it working! Just to follow up with my own results (also posted elsewhere), I was able to get a PC-flashed FireGL X3 running in my Digital Audio 466 (2.0GHz CPU card).
The specific ATI drivers I installed were version 4.5.7 found at the below link:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/archive/atidisplays4-5-7
Below see the card in action:
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its good to see some more success on the FireGL X3 flashing I have a question (I guess MVC can answer this) If I was to do a ROM Chip swap on my FireGL so I could flash a Full ROM would I have to then Flash it in a PC because the new rom chip would be empty or could I still try and flash it in a Mac?
I have a question (I guess MVC can answer this) If I was to do a ROM Chip swap on my FireGL so I could flash a Full ROM would I have to then Flash it in a PC because the new rom chip would be empty or could I still try and flash it in a Mac?It's a good piece of tech
Reading this makes me want to consider selling the flashed FireGL X3 from my old G5, but it also wants me to reconsider just sticking in a new power supply
It's a great card, I remember I was able to overclock it an break 20,000 on OpenMark back in the day, though I only dared to run it at those clock speeds for less than a minute or two.
Reading this makes me want to consider selling the flashed FireGL X3 from my old G5, but it also wants me to reconsider just sticking in a new power supply
It's a great card, I remember I was able to overclock it an break 20,000 on OpenMark back in the day, though I only dared to run it at those clock speeds for less than a minute or two.
This is only cursorily related, but I have a friend who does "serious" computing work during the day(he does bioinformatics, and runs the type of stuff where he can keep 150 cores on the university supercomputer running at 100% for 24 hours). He's also a gamer, and pushes the limits for the sake of pushing them.
He actually just recently built an entirely new computer. It was his first "new" computer in several years, but his old one was about Abraham Lincoln's axe-he'd replaced/upgraded the motherboard, processor, hard drives, and case all at separate times, so really it was actually fairly current. In any case, he often jokes about how one of his roommates spent $700 on a high end graphics card. My friend had water cooled his computer anyway, so put a water block on the GPU and overclocked it like crazy. He liked to brag that it performed about 90% as well as his roommates $700 card at 1/3 the price.
Every system admin has to kick back with their toys sometime, similar story with a few people I vaguely know
Reminds me a bit of my situation with the G5 at the time, I'd had an MBP stolen, moved to a 466MHz G4 for a bit, then got the G5 and slowly upgraded everything including an SSD in one drive bay, a few tweaks here and there on thre system and TenFourFox as the browser, and it did not feel at all like an eight year old computer that a kid these days ight mistake for a cheesgrater
Every system admin has to kick back with their toys sometime, similar story with a few people I vaguely know
He's one of my best friends, but I'd hate to get on his bad side. When my friend was living in a house in Louisville that he shared with two other guys, my friend handled paying all the bills and sometimes had trouble getting money out of the other two guys. His solution was to go into the router and throttle their internet down to dial up speeds until they paid up
I am now up to three DA G4s, counting the rackmount one I bought last week.
I tried the flashed FireGl in it last night, and had no luck.
That brings the total up to 3 DAs and two Quicksilvers which were no-gos with this card. I've had plenty of luck with MDDs, just not DA/QSs(which, again, are more alike than different).
I tried the flashed FireGl in it last night, and had no luck.
That brings the total up to 3 DAs and two Quicksilvers which were no-gos with this card. I've had plenty of luck with MDDs, just not DA/QSs(which, again, are more alike than different).
Yeah. I ordered another card based on an auction posted by ptdebate in another thread. We shall see what happens there. If it works, then it means that the cards in this auction (mentioned in post #1) were just not compatible with the QS for whatever reason.
@LightBulbFun I recently bought a HP FirePro Gl X3 (113-A30104-107) from the eBay German large quantity listing. I have tried the ROM from TheMacElite and your post 67. Comparing my ROM file to your " pci1002,2.rom" (post 67) shows noticeable differences in Hex. My VRAM on my card is Infineon not the usual Samsung I've been reading about. If I post my stock ROM would you be able to modify it?
Edit: I've been trying to read about hex editing my device ID into the ROM, but StrangeDogs has been down for years now.
Edit: I've been trying to read about hex editing my device ID into the ROM, but StrangeDogs has been down for years now.
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