Vapor is doing nothing to rectify their situation, they just keep selling their cases. Atomic took the initiative to fix their problems. And no I was not a "tester". They had been selling the case before I ever came into the picture. Once they were made aware of these issues, then I stepped in to help with it. Now, they should all be sent out so nobody else has the problem.
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Atomic iPhone Aluminum Case review
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I mean lets be honest here, no matter what I say or information I provide, pictures or video's, your still going to argue with me about it. So just don't buy one and I can actually answer other people's questions except yours 99% of the time. If you not interested in the product, which its obvious your not, then don't buy it, go buy someone else's case. Honestly, its not that big of a deal. It seems like your pretty interested in the alumacase right? Go buy from them.
Well, if you didn't talk in circles and contradict a lot of things you say, people (including myself) might put a little more faith in what you say. If you go back to the "Atomic billet aluminum Ip4 case" thread, you stated that you "had been working" with Atomic to "test their cases", but yet, in the same thread, you mention that you had received your two cases that same day. Kind of a short period of time to be "testing cases", don't you think? And at no time did you mention that a "fix" needed to be made to the Atomic case before it would work, until johnnybgood15 posted that his case had a bare interior and killed his signal. And, my biggest "WTF" thing is, even if all the other stuff is true, you have stated that you were "helping them figure out a fix" for the reception problem, but yet, in your own words again, Atomic didn't know of an issue. So why on earth would someone be looking for a fix for an issue they didn't know they had? Maybe you just mix up your words and can't convey what you are trying to say, but so far, a lot of things haven't made much sense, at least not the way you have said them.
Wow! So because I posted an honest review of the case I am not worthy of the fix for the case I paid for? So I have to agree to some secret confidentiality agreement in order o get my case to work as it was supposed to out of the box?
Also atomic claimed they designed it to work with no liners or tape.
Nice company you have their nolesfan. Your a big an as* as anyone I have encountered.
read the last paragraph on their website page here...complete joke...
http://www.atomiciphonecase.com/about.html
we dont need a lining
there is a secret fix only if you ask
but wait...
website says there is a lining...that suspends the case...
fock off guys, you need to have a meeting and discuss what to discuss or not discuss...
http://www.atomiciphonecase.com/about.html
we dont need a lining
there is a secret fix only if you ask
but wait...
website says there is a lining...that suspends the case...
fock off guys, you need to have a meeting and discuss what to discuss or not discuss...
Whoa. Why you quoting me? My post was directed at nolesfan. I'm saying that you weren't told of a "fix", and according to the stuff that nolesfan has stated, the need for a "fix" was discovered before your Atomic case was ever shipped. So if that's the case, and they knew of the need for a "fix" (which is why nolesfan states that he was testing the case for them to find), why on earth did they ship yours to start with, knowing it would need a fix applied? Shipments should have been halted at that point, until the "fix" could be applied to all of them. But...if you go back and read the posts made by Atomic themselves here, they even kind of hint and even concede that this design for a case will have problems, but should be looked at as a trade off for the "protection" it gives.
I'm not even sure if I think he's an Atomic case employee/shill anymore. If you read his posts over on iphone4forums, there's one post in which he states that he was "testing" iOS 4.1 for Apple. I may be wrong, but I get the impression he wants some "internet clout". That's totally my opinion though. What makes him "testing" iOS 4.1 for Apple any different than the thousands of developers that get beta copies to work out the kinks? Not to mention that he stated in a thread " I mentioned it in an above post" that he has been working with Atomic (that's past tense, meaning already happened) to test the cases, yet, a few posts down from that one, mentions that "he received his cases that day". Pretty extensive "testing" lasting a fraction of a day, huh?
Like I said before, your not going to be happy with what I say so just drop it. And yes we pretty much had a fix in 1 day but it took a few days to be perfected. It's not my right to say that a fix would be needed for the case to function at 100% because I don't own the company!
Like I have said before and has been made clear by atomic themselves, I am not employed by them and to be honest, no your not worth the fix. Anyone who comes on here the first chance they get and bash the case before they contact them shows your true colors and maturity! But you proably are only 18 huh? Because you sure act like it! That's not how adults conduct business. I think you have some growing up to do!
Then why tout a case like it's the second coming, and even attack another aluminum case maker (Alumacase), acting like it's going to be hard to beat the perfect Atomic case, without disclosing that it needs a "fix" to even work in the manner you report? You downtalked Element's product as well, acting like it was crap because it needs additional user performed mods (typically), but never stated that your favorite case needs similar mods? And what is the purpose of you "testing" the case for our (the potential customers) benefit, if you're not going to inform us of said "fix" needed, until one of us (johnnybgood) gets the case and finds out it doesn't work?
The irony in the statement I bolded is rich. You mean kind of how you did in the Alumacase thread? About a product NO ONE has even held in hand? And I'm not even going to go into the fact that you're stating that a paying customer, putting his faith into a new company and PAYING FULL PRICE for a product, "doesn't deserve" it to work or even get the fixes it needs to function AS ADVERTISED.
Well you buy a alumacase and post pics and videos like I did because I guarantee it will have problems. But everyone jumped on their bandwagon and your right, nobody even has one. And no, someone who acts like he did does not deserve the fix free me anyways, what atomic does is up to them. But why would I post my fix so everyone with a vapor and soon to be alumacase can use it? No way!
I don't care if you post your fix or not. Honestly, I don't think any of these aluminum cases that cover the side of the antenna are going to be able keep the signal loss from occurring. The only exception to that MIGHT be the Fusion Raw, as it doesn't cover the sides of the antenna. And just maybe the Alumacase, since their owner/designer (who didn't blatantly copy another case...agreed, not much way to make it different, but damn Atomic...same design and everything?) is on here pretty regularly, and has even stated that he will try to submit a test case to Gear Diary for formal testing. But....I don't think you've represented Atomic's product accurately or truthfully, since you started out talking how great it was, how it was better than the Element, etc, yet conveniently held back the fact that the darn thing needed a similar fix that the Element Vapor typically needs to make it work satisfactorily. That makes your "review" invalid. Not disclosing info crucial to make a product work? Come on...
And as far as me buying an Alumacase and testing it myself...it seems like the designer of that case just might be upstanding enough to submit his case for FORMAL testing himself. But, even if he didn't, I'm seriously thinking about buying an Alumacase, an Atomic, and the Fusion Sabre and Raw and submitting them to Larry (Greenburg)/Gear Diary myself, just so the truth is out there for ALL customers to see. If I had one or two more people from the forums here to chip in with me on it, I'd definitely do it. I'd be willing to spend the money so that customers get the truth about these products, if they want it. And I mean that...if any of you guys would want to chip in a few bucks (CynicalMindset, White/Rhino, asleep, archrider, Sophia, etc) and buy one of each of these to donate to Gear Diary (if the case makers themselves don't), I'd be willing to do it. I'd rather spend a few bucks each and find out they didn't work, than to buy them full cost (each of us) and then go through the hassle (still have nightmares about trying to return to Element) of getting our money back. Just a thought...
Juvenile is more like it. IF Atomic is actually applying a "fix", it's going to be seen in at most a few days by new customers that order the "fixed" Atomic (and subsequently pics posted on the forums here). Then Vapor, Alumacase, Fusion, XYZ company customers can utilize the fix on their own products.
I have heard absolutely nothing from Atomic on a "fix" and I actually own one.
About the reception, in all honesty the actual case did very little, if anything to my signal. I am in a very good reception area and I was able to play Archetype over 3G with no lag. Wi-Fi worked as advertised and so did GPS. The Element didn't do anything bad either.
I believe since my iPhone 4 is literally 3 weeks old, mine may have a better/different antenna than the original batch. I actually don't have the "death grip" issue and I'm left handed. I tried to get the phone to fail but couldn't no matter how long I held it.
I still find it funny how Atomic calls the "carbon fiber" a "Carbon Fiber Texture Plate" on the main page then pulls a bait and switch on the order page calling it a texture skin, the exact same thing that the Lucky Labs folks call it.
No it's actually smart. And you can see the material and still not know what it is! Just saying.
You are contrdicting yourself with every post. So he wasn't suppose to be honest in his review on a product he bought and paid for?
Would suggest that if anyone from Atomic is scanning this thread that it would be best for their reputation to distance themselves from "nolesfan" who is doing a really bangup job at sabotaging their business by "helping".
Wow...look at that! A case maker actually addressing his potential customers' concerns himself. That alone might be why I try this case out. I was actually saying that there's only so many ways to design a Bumper style case without it looking at least similar to other designs (same thing with other style cases...look at all the slider style polycarbonate cases out there...doesn't mean they all copied each other exactly). But it kind of bothers me that Atomic copied Element's Vapor down to the asymmetrical design with the "grip" on the same side and everything. Not saying you carbon copied it at all. No one can say that, as I'm not even sure if you guys have finalized the design you are going to sell (I know that you have shown several designs that you may/may not offer for sale). And thank you for at least admitting that you have to use a liner for the case to work properly.
Can you give us an idea of what price you're thinking of selling them at? Is it still the same price you initially stated, or have you changed it? Or would you rather not say at this time? If it's dramatically lower than the competition, I think it might be a good idea to go ahead and state it, and maybe have all those that are on the fence right now deciding on an Element, Atomic, etc go ahead and wait for yours. Just a thought from a fellow business operator.
Well if you don't represent atomic and don't represent their interests why would it be your concern whether people with other aluminum cases use the fix.
I sure hope you guys are not too good to be true and start out reputable...;-)
I wouldn't mind a couple of colors ;depending on my moods;-)
Ps I volunteer myself for a tester. Since I'm pretty technical by nature &
I can be very honest ;-)
Hey Johnny. You haven't posted any pics. Are you sans camera or pulling our legs on having a case. No, pressure. Just post some pics for us please. If you are saying that it is ruining your signal it would lend credibility to your review to provide pictures as proof. Yes, pics or it didn't happen seem to be the rule here.