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Attempted Apple Store Holdup Goes Bad: Suspect Killed

The guard didn't use a gun, it was Apple's unreleased iShotYouInTheFace. They're now using it to protect their stores.
 
As others have said, it looks like it was more than a simple smash and grab...the suspects appear to have been armed. I'm sure as the day goes by we'll get more of an idea of what happened.

From the article:

Two men and woman apparently did a "smash and grab," in which glass doors and windows are broken and merchandise is grabbed quickly, CVPD Capt. Gary Facicci said.

A private armed security guard interrupted the burglars and at some point, gunfire was exchanged with the two male burglars, who were also armed, Facicci said.

The male suspects and their alleged female accomplice then got into a vehicle that crashed while still inside the shopping mall, Facicci said, noting that one of the men was driving and he died in the crash. Reports from the scene indicate he had been shot in the head.

The getaway vehicle crashed into a wall at the mall.

The second male suspect and female were arrested at the scene, Facicci said. Both were described as being in their mid-20s.
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Guys if you read the article the robber completely deserved it. Gunfire was exchanged, meaning they shot at the security guard who rightfully dispatched the piece of **** criminal.

I know for many in this thread its easy to play armchair security guard but in real life, if someone shoots at you and you know its you or them I'm pretty sure you'd shoot back.
 
I heard the mall cop got the head-shot while moving at full speed on a Segway. Simply amazing.
 
The whole thing is sad for all involved — the people who committed the crimes and the security guard (really?) who killed one of them.

That said, this sort of thing does deter crime.

P.S. To the person who said that shooting someone in the head is "no accident," that's very unlikely to be true. It's extremely difficult to accurately hit a moving target. That's why police are trained to aim for center mass. (It's like aiming for the bullseye in hopes you'll hit somewhere on the target.)
 
Eh....While I make a terrible liberal because I believe gun control isn't a big issue, there IS such a thing as a lost cause, and that people usually get what they deserve.... I also make a terrible conservative in that I don't think a mall cop should be carrying a ****ing firearm, nor should he be going for a killing shot- shoulder/leg at MOST. And anyway, from the sound of it, they weren't even in the store yet- they were still in the process of breaking in. REAL police are hesitant to fire upon a fleeing suspect, why the **** is a mall cop shooting people in the head who are running away without any stolen property? Answer: Because he's not a real police officer and he shouldn't be carrying a ****ing firearm. Sounds like this will be hitting the courtrooms.

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They've updated the post since I posted that...The suspects were armed and firing, so I retract the bit about shooting a fleeing suspect. I'm still not comfortable with a mall cop carrying lethal force....there are plenty of less-than-lethal options out there.
 
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Oh.. if there was an exchange of gunfire I'm glad the security officer survived. I thought this was a case of an over anxious gun user.
 
Good for you!!

Sweet. Another piece of trash off the street. Keep cleaning them up! Let me know where I can send some more bullets.

Maybe this will convince Apple to produce an iGun.
 
Seems unfair to kill someone for robbery. Yes they're breaking the law, but only deserve a prison sentence. Do you really really think someone should be shot and killed for attempting to steal a few laptops and smash a few windows? If you do then man you have issues.
 
mattwolfmatt said:
I'm as pro gun rights as anyone, but this sounds like a problem for the security guard. Unless that guard's life was in danger, there was no reason to shoot anyone, especially in the head. The placement of that shot was no accident.

That being said, I'm sure there are a lot of facts we don't know. Innocent until proven guilty, of course.
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Only in America, can you have the intention to hurt/kill others, but until an x amount of people are hurt/shot or raped, then charges can be pressed allow criminals to make multiple attempts until they have a good successful one before they are official caught/punished. What the hell did he think would happen robbing a store while being armed? Cops would give him lollipops? Come on, people that rob banks shouldn't be "surprised" that they were shot. He knew the consequences of armed robbery.
 
Crime doesn't pay, scumbag. Glad the guard wasn't hurt over these losers trying to smash and grab their way to to a quick payday.

To everyone condemning the guard for DOING HIS JOB, make sure you read the article, and know the facts before doing so. If someone is shooting at me, you better bet that I'll be shooting to kill. Kudos to him; hopefully he isn't too mentally shaken up to continue living a normal life.
 
Headshot - OUTSTANDING.

It sounds as though he was DRT, but I hope this scumbag suffered some before his dirt nap was about to begin.
 
antster94 said:
Seems unfair to kill someone for robbery. Yes they're breaking the law, but only deserve a prison sentence. Do you really really think someone should be shot and killed for attempting to steal a few laptops and smash a few windows? If you do then man you have issues.
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I don't think the "deserve" to be shot but if they get shot and killed while doing it, they should have known better. What if someone broke into your house and mentally harmed your family? They only deserve to be locked up for a couple of months, right?


- Joe
 
maxmiles said:
OMG.. I'm with Felt. "Security Guards" shouldn't carry guns, and if they do there should be training and good sense that goes into using it. Shooting the suspects in the head is criminal.
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I carry a Glock 19 every day why should a Security Guard be any different?

Where should you shoot them? First thing you learn is shoot to kill, there is no such thing as aiming for a less lethal area... also hollow points are a must to prevent collateral damage.

I am not saying this is a good kill by any means; I was not there. However if it had to be done this is the way it should have been done.
 
antster94 said:
Seems unfair to kill someone for robbery. Yes they're breaking the law, but only deserve a prison sentence. Do you really really think someone should be shot and killed for attempting to steal a few laptops and smash a few windows? If you do then man you have issues.
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As soon as one of the robbers fired a gun at the security guard, all bets were off.
 
maxmiles said:
OMG.. I'm with Felt. "Security Guards" shouldn't carry guns, and if they do there should be training and good sense that goes into using it. Shooting the suspects in the head is criminal.
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I've dealt with armed security guards before. The ones that I dealt with do in fact have a couple days of mandatory training per year.

That being said, if the security guard's life was being threatened (for sake of argument, lets say it was, as we do know the robbers were armed), why would it be "criminal" to shoot them in the head?
 
antster94 said:
Seems unfair to kill someone for robbery. Yes they're breaking the law, but only deserve a prison sentence. Do you really really think someone should be shot and killed for attempting to steal a few laptops and smash a few windows? If you do then man you have issues.
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Read the details of the story. http://www.10news.com/news/27421748/detail.html

They were armed and exchanged fire. Changed your mind?
 
ten-oak-druid said:
The problem with stolen Apple products would be no Applecare.
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Incorrect.

Even with a police report, the AppleCare is still valid for liability reasons. At least this is my experience working at a University where there have been thefts in the past.
 
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