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Seems unfair to kill someone for robbery. Yes they're breaking the law, but only deserve a prison sentence. Do you really really think someone should be shot and killed for attempting to steal a few laptops and smash a few windows? If you do then man you have issues.


Well if there are no real consequences to carrying a gun, and shooting it at guards since I might only be facing jail time, it sounds like criminals should try more often. I mean hell, that's a big safety net, they should have tried banks better pay off and they can try multiple times since the only consequence is possible jail time.
 
Non issue. Just avoid robbing a store.

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If someone wants to commit a crime. Then I think there rights should be gone. If they don't want to get shot or arrested, then act like a normal person.

Simple as that.
 
How sad,
I mean a person lost his life because of his actions, and the guard now has to live with the fact that he took a life. All for what - some iToys? Doesn't seem worth it. :(

I don't mean to be off-topic with this, nor am I pro-guns or anything, but the security guard was protecting himself from people that had no respect for life to begin with. Would your story be the same if the felons killed the security guard? or if they were robbing your house?
 
Good!

This is what you get when you (criminals) don't want to be part of society!! Take note criminals there will be REAL! repercussions for your actions.
 
The way i see it, is that the headshot wasn't point blank but rather unlucky as the robber got to his car before puffing his last breath. Maybe the robber moved his head in the trajectory, maybe the bullet bounced on something. Who knows what happend, but it doesn't sound like an aimed headshot to me.
 
I carry a Glock 19 every day why should a Security Guard be any different?

Where should you shoot them? First thing you learn is shoot to kill, there is no such thing as aiming for a less lethal area... also hollow points are a must to prevent collateral damage.

I am not saying this is a good kill by any means; I was not there. However if it had to be done this is the way it should have been done.

"So Live and Let Die!"

You shoot their leg, they shoot you in the head.
Anyone who points a gun at another person is asking for trouble, even if he/she doesn't fire it.

If guns didn't exist, things like this wouldn't be happening.
 
I don't think the "deserve" to be shot but if they get shot and killed while doing it, they should have known better. What if someone broke into your house and mentally harmed your family? They only deserve to be locked up for a couple of months, right?


- Joe

A better example, what if they broke into the house and shot at you multiple times. So unless they successfully kill you, they should just see a few years prison and when they are out they are free to come out and try again, over and over again until they finally do hit your sorry ass?
 
Seems unfair to kill someone for robbery. Yes they're breaking the law, but only deserve a prison sentence. Do you really really think someone should be shot and killed for attempting to steal a few laptops and smash a few windows? If you do then man you have issues.

Seems someone doesn't bother to read the article before he responds.

Exchanging gunfire usually results in someone being wounded or killed. Quite frankly, I'd question whether the guard meant for the shot to hit the head or if this was an oddly lucky shot. It really depends on how much training he has had. Kudos for staying alive. Criminals need to understand that their chosen profession comes with risks.
 
OMG.. I'm with Felt. "Security Guards" shouldn't carry guns, and if they do there should be training and good sense that goes into using it. Shooting the suspects in the head is criminal.

Anybody responsible for guarding should have a gun. If the person isn't qualified to carry a gun, they he/she isn't qualified to guard anything and shouldn't be a guard.

When you're exchanging gunfire with a criminal, the main goal is not to wound; it is to remove the threat to your life completely. Let's say the guard shoots the guy in the arm, the guy's going to be so pumped up on adrenaline that he's not going to even know he's shot, giving him plenty of opportunity to take another shot.

Ask yourself this: If it were your life he was guarding, what would you want the guard to do?
 
Was It really necessary to kill him?
No

Yes, it was. Too bad it was not a bleeding injury so he could fell his life exiting from him. He was armed, and hence dangerous. When he, by his own volition, decided to take a gun into a crime - he surrendered any expectation of coming out of the robbery alive.
 
How sad,
I mean a person lost his life because of his actions, and the guard now has to live with the fact that he took a life. All for what - some iToys? Doesn't seem worth it. :(

the thieves were armed. thats good for them. i love it when people get a reaction WAY ABOVE what they expected when they left for thieving this morning. no sympathy for criminals.
 
I'm actually surprised this doesn't happen more often. Applestores must be filled with cash. I would think one would be a bit easier to rob than a bank.

I would bet there is actually very little cash in the typical Apple store. I personally have never observed a single customer pay with cash for anything at the two stores in my area. Everybody pays with credit or debit cards.

These guys were after the products, probably iPhones and iPads, which would bring in some hefty cash on the black market.
 
"So Live and Let Die!"

You shoot their leg, they shoot you in the head.
Anyone who points a gun at another person is asking for trouble, even if he/she doesn't fire it.

If guns didn't exist, things like this wouldn't be happening.


If guns did not exist it would be happening with whatever does. swords, rocks, fists... in which case the mall cop would have probably been killed in this situation and lost the "good fight". It becomes a game of numbers when guns do not exist... all guns do is put everybody on a level playing field regarldess of numbers (be realistic) or physical strength.
 
Only in America.... Bad form unless it was in defence. How about non lethal take downs, fair courts and appropriate justice, such as jail with community service, get criminals doing something constructive for society and trying to get them back on track?

The right to carry guns and to kill absolutely baffles me. Surely shooting and killing is a worser crime than stealing? The threat of being shot/killed sounds too authoritarian/totalitarian for me.

I can't believe the mentality of people on these forums sometimes! Each to their own I guess... Democracy and all...
 
...Eh, shoot back? But not in the head... A head shot, geez... That wasn't meant to stop him, that was meant to kill him...

Have you ever fired a gun under pressure? How do you know that he was aiming at the head. When your life is on the line and a weapon is in your hand, your accuracy may not be perfect. My opinion is the security guard did the public a service by eliminating this scum.
 
Did anybody actually READ the article?

It is not like a mall rent a cop went up and shot the suspect in the head.

Two of them were armed and 40 shots were exchanged.

one bad guy is dead and two were captured.
 
"So Live and Let Die!"

You shoot their leg, they shoot you in the head.
Anyone who points a gun at another person is asking for trouble, even if he/she doesn't fire it.

If guns didn't exist, things like this wouldn't be happening.


If guns did not exist it would be happening with whatever does. swords, rocks, fists... in which case the mall cop would have probably been killed in this situation and lost the "good fight". It becomes a game of numbers when guns do not exist... all guns do is put everybody on a level playing field regarldess of numbers (be realistic) or physical strength.
 
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No loss to society here. Go Mall Cop.
 
Only in America.... Bad form unless it was in defence. How about non lethal take downs, fair courts and appropriate justice, such as jail with community service, get criminals doing something constructive for society and trying to get them back on track?

The right to carry guns and to kill absolutely baffles me. Surely shooting and killing is a worser crime than stealing? The threat of being shot/killed sounds too authoritarian/totalitarian for me.

I can't believe the mentality of people on these forums sometimes! Each to their own I guess... Democracy and all...

Please read that the updated article that 40 shots were exchanged during gunfire...It was in self defense.
 
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