Sure, sure. It's a messy situation. I sometimes have to make decisions at work that are dark, and live with me for a while.
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Attempted Apple Store Holdup Goes Bad: Suspect Killed
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Sure, sure. It's a messy situation. I sometimes have to make decisions at work that are dark, and live with me for a while.
Two things:
5. I shouldn't be forced out of my own house by a bunch of thugs.
Also, why aren't your guns loaded?? At least while you are at home, they should be, otherwise what's the point.
As others had stated, and I just like to repeat... Some "rent-a-cops" do carry a gun. The guards at the elementary school I work for both have permits and carry them. The police don't say a thing since they are both ex military and both CAN and DO shot better then the local police at the range.
Grammar Police out in full force today, gentlemen. You make one grammar wrong out of the ten thousand words you type a day, and a Grammar Gestapo will be happy to attack your mistake rather than your argument.
What can I say, AppleScruff, I'm a survivor. I hope your proper grammar saves your from any potential robbers.
Hmm a head shot - one of the smaller portions of the body. I thought professionals were taught center mass? At the range, isn't center mass the main focus?
Seems a little excessive to me. But then again over 40 shots - wow they were getting busy in there!
Seems a little excessive to me. But then again over 40 shots - wow they were getting busy in there!
Thanks for making that enlightening point WestonHarvey. I should've known better to proofread everything, but I still might not have caught my grammatical error because I've been typing the word "tenant" all weekend dealing with rental properties.
When they run out of arguments, that is the typical response.
Just because he was shot it the head, doesn't mean the cop was aiming for his head. Real life is different than what you see in movies.
It wouldn't surprise me if Apple did employ a guard, here in the UK, Apple store Bristol, they have a guard here (without a gun of course). He walks around ticking a board all day long. 
Movies?? lol..no no not movies. Like I said it's a little suspect but then again 40 shots will probably justify a lot.
So sorry my suspicions don't come from TV. Maybe you may refer to your expertise.
He was sitting in the car and the head is the most likely target, even if the cop wasn't specifically aiming for it.
It's not quite that simple. If the guard and one of the suspects had died from this firefight, then yes the other suspect could be charged with homicide. However, the surviving suspect(s) will likely be charged with robbery, attempted homicide, using a gun while committing a felony, and a myriad of other charges. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they were known within the criminal justice system.
While I don't know, in this specific situation, but there are many private organizations that hire active, off duty police/sheriffs deputies (with their dept's permission) to perform "security guard" functions. In California, the State is responsible for the "licensing" of security guards and there are different levels. Any guard has to have a "guard card" from the State, (Dept. of Consumer Affairs). The armed level requires at least an 832 (basic arrest and firearms course) class as well as firearms training. There are also many retired police officers and deputies who get hired as security guards because they have a much better level of training and judgement, as well as the experience needed for the job.
I've worked in Law Enforcement since 1986....
What are you a fortune teller? Crossfire? Are you kidding?
What a terribly weak argument. So your saying that whether the gunmen killed 10 or 20 doesn't matter. Killing is killing, and preventing 10 deaths isn't worth it.
Well let me tell you something sir. I would bet everything I own that your opinion would change if you were the next one in line to be shot, and the security guard was 20 feet away, willing to do anything to help you, but he is unarmed and guess what? Superman isn't ******ng real and nobody can move that fast to stop the gunmen from shooting you.
People shouldn't be so quick to form their opinions about important issues like gun control. Because when push comes to shove, you will turn into a person you might have never imagined and see things in a new light. You don't want to carry a gun fine. But don't infringe on others rights to protect themselves.
I haven't seen the crime scene though I've been to that mall before, after re-reading the articles this is what I could gather: just examine the details currently available:
Two male suspects broke the Apple store's window and were starting to grab items when the Security Guard confronted them. One of the male suspects had produced a gun, and at some point they began to flee. Since one male suspect possessing two handguns was shot in the buttocks, the Security Guard fired at them first as they fled on foot initially (heading for their car).
The second male suspect (unarmed) was most likely the getaway car driver, and happened to be the one that got shot in the head while driving away (the bullet passed through the rear passenger window hitting him on the side of the head). The unarmed female suspect had remained in the car the entire time. Police were marking shells just outside the front of the store, with no mention of gunshot holes or bullets inside of the store.
It was the male suspect with two handguns, one of which is reportedly stolen, that had a gunshot wound in the buttocks, that was apprehended. The female accomplice apprehended was uninjured. I hope they release more details because this paints a grim picture.
Two male suspects broke the Apple store's window and were starting to grab items when the Security Guard confronted them. One of the male suspects had produced a gun, and at some point they began to flee. Since one male suspect possessing two handguns was shot in the buttocks, the Security Guard fired at them first as they fled on foot initially (heading for their car).
The second male suspect (unarmed) was most likely the getaway car driver, and happened to be the one that got shot in the head while driving away (the bullet passed through the rear passenger window hitting him on the side of the head). The unarmed female suspect had remained in the car the entire time. Police were marking shells just outside the front of the store, with no mention of gunshot holes or bullets inside of the store.
It was the male suspect with two handguns, one of which is reportedly stolen, that had a gunshot wound in the buttocks, that was apprehended. The female accomplice apprehended was uninjured. I hope they release more details because this paints a grim picture.
Yea there are many facts and peripheral contributors that are not mentioned so there's no way to actually determine. At first look/read, one would think wow but many contributors. To have over 40 shots fired- smh! In a mall, for Apple products??? To carry that many rounds for hard/software just seems ... lol wow
Haha! Keep dreaming the American Dream. I don't mean any offence, and you're not alone in feeling that way, but it's far from being that simple.
I don't think any other country provides as much opportunity for success as America. If they were stealing food for their family that lived under a bridge, it'd be one thing. This is quite another.
The American Dream has nothing to do with this.
See, that story is interesting to me, being that I live in Canada, which guns aren't so prevalent. One on hand, good on you man! (No sarcasm.) But on the other, it's a good thing he wasn't some crazed methhead who happened to be packing. Know what I mean?