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Audi and Nvidia Working on Fully Autonomous Car for 2020 Rollout
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I'd still love to see some information about how many people really want a self driving car and at what price. I've seen nothing about how much such a car would cost and how much the data usage would cost.
To me it might be nice for that once a year when I take a long highway trip (many hours) to be able to take a break from driving but I can't see using it daily. I also expect that the cost will be relatively very high. Sure for buses and maybe highway trucks but the companies that are getting into it aren't doing it for those uses.
I could be wrong but...again I'd love to see some study that asks would you want one and if yes if it cost 20% more would you?
To me it might be nice for that once a year when I take a long highway trip (many hours) to be able to take a break from driving but I can't see using it daily. I also expect that the cost will be relatively very high. Sure for buses and maybe highway trucks but the companies that are getting into it aren't doing it for those uses.
I could be wrong but...again I'd love to see some study that asks would you want one and if yes if it cost 20% more would you?
juanm
macrumors 68000
Tesla's autopilot is already working, and more reliable than human drivers.
hovscorpion12
macrumors 68040
Per Nvidia's "'Let's make sure none of our kids ever have to learn to drive'" statement is pure arrogance and stupidity. Granted yes, Electric vehicles have been increasing with the Chevy Volt EV, Model S, Model X and 2017 Model 3, however gas engine cars will never truly disappear until I'm well into my 80's (Year 2072) and replaced by full electric Autonomous driving. As of right now Tesla offers full Self driving as well as enhanced autopilot options for both Model S and Model X. So far per YouTube videos and other sources, Tesla's cameras have been able to predict a crash and have the capability to drive the user from Point A to B safely. In order for full autonomous driving to be perfect ever car has to be autonomous. The first thing my father taught me was that everyone but me is an idiot driver who doesn't know how to drive. Which I would assume is thought about me and the rest of the world. All anyone has to do is search for worst drivers compilations videos to have an exact idea what I'm taking about.
Enough already with the full autonomous, self driving cars.
The majority don't want them, but yet for some reason someone or some (governmental) entity seems intent on ramming them down our throat.
Hopefully the new administration in Washington puts the brakes on this.
The majority don't want them, but yet for some reason someone or some (governmental) entity seems intent on ramming them down our throat.
Hopefully the new administration in Washington puts the brakes on this.
hovscorpion12
macrumors 68040
I don't own a Tesla, but know people who do which they exclusively bought a Tesla for Autopilot and full self driving. While they do not fully rely on either feature they have enabled Autopilot on the hwy to show off changing lanes, or just driving at steady speed. What I do love is that at the tiniest tap of the brake or moving the steering wheel turns off auto pilot giving the driver back full control.
And you believe that garbage? I wouldn't waste one second worrying about self driving cars if I were Apple. It's bad enough they already did.
juanm
macrumors 68000
Bug-Creator
macrumors 68000
I believe that the minute Tesla (or anybody else) takes full responsibilty for accidents.
Until than my statement stands.
chr1s60
macrumors 68020
Well, I'd personally rather have Apple focus on technology related things as opposed to automotive things, seeing that they are a technology company after all. I think the big picture here is that Apple realized how many other players were already in the game that the general public didn't and still might not know about. They came to a decision that the massive amount of money being dumped into a project that numerous other automotive companies that already have the proper R&D facilities for simply wasn't worth it. I don't think it shows a sign of failure or lack of innovation, but rather a smart business decision to cut losses in a race they likely wouldn't win to begin with, for a technology that will quickly be widespread once released, and has a massive liability that comes with it.
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Sure, until that tap or movement doesn't give back full control.
Cata Lin
macrumors newbie
Tesla is also using Nvidia hardware for its Autopilot features.
The whole car is already controlled by computers, the driver just has input over the go, stop and turn. There really is no reason that a computer couldn't do those things better than we can as evidence by the fact that self-driving cars have less accidents than people do, but they still happen. Fortunately you still have the go, stop and turn at your control so if you are paying attention (which you are supposed to be) then any accident is still your fault. Granted it must be hard to pay attention on a 2 hour drive when your phone is sitting right beside you and the car seems to be doing just fine by itself until suddenly it gets confused and you are playing angry birds
Honda won't even produce a Civic Si with an automatic transmission. Even paddle shifters are off the table for discussion.
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That said I actually enjoy the act of driving, even when in traffic. I'll pass thanks.
GOING to happen. Count on it.
That said I actually enjoy the act of driving, even when in traffic. I'll pass thanks.
juanm
macrumors 68000
Some accidents are impossible to avoid (say a car falls in front of you from an overhead bridge, or something happens within braking distance). I believe an autonomous car is simply better than a driver, stats in hand, and that's already the case in highway driving.
lordofthereef
macrumors G5
I'm not sure I'm making the connection here. Driving isn't exactly a calorie burning activity. At least not in the way 99.9999999% of the world drives.From keynote : " 10:50PM EST - 'Let's make sure none of our kids ever have to learn to drive' "
Excuse me? You wanna say this is the direction they wanna take humanity in?
I'd rather not thank you. Tesla's Autopilot in its current state is about as far as it should go. Driver assisting, not driver replacing.
I can totally see a world where commuting is much safer and efficient. I'm sure people were reluctant to give up theirnhorses and carriages too. Not a whole lot of people pining to trek into town on horse and saddle anymore. I nakenthis comparison only to point out that any huge change in the way we have "always done things" comes with resistance.
I don't personally see driving as some sort of necessity beyond the fact that I need to get places (and if and when something better comes along that's great). I don't imagine that driving as a hobby will ever did out. Much like my horse analogy, people still ride. Just not quite the way we did 150 years ago.
Pike R. Alpha
macrumors 6502
Competition may actually be the main reason for Apple to pull the plug out their automotive project. It is bloody expensive, and with others having cars equipped and driving on their own... that must have been a blow in the face.
I'm not saying (believing either) that Apple couldn't do it, but I think that other less expensive products are getting ready for us (and this year already). More affordable stuff (yeah, even from Apple) that 'everybody' wants, and we all know that not everybody can afford an expensive (like the Audi) automobile. A Home Hub from Apple (for example). And that will be a lot less expensive than any car 😉
I'm not saying (believing either) that Apple couldn't do it, but I think that other less expensive products are getting ready for us (and this year already). More affordable stuff (yeah, even from Apple) that 'everybody' wants, and we all know that not everybody can afford an expensive (like the Audi) automobile. A Home Hub from Apple (for example). And that will be a lot less expensive than any car 😉
lordofthereef
macrumors G5
I think it's highky unlikely that we see a complete removal of human driven cars in our lifetime. Unless you are extremely young.
But anyway, I also think gasoline is on its way out. Sooner or later we will move on.
Chupa Chupa
macrumors G5
For some reason... no, not for some reason, for a very specific one: control. That provides gov't, and those that run it, with unique opportunities to increase their power over citizens.
juanm
macrumors 68000
"Luo, who said he had used autopilot for more than a month, said he was looking at his phone or the in-car navigation at the time of the accident, only looking up every several seconds - but blamed Tesla's hard sell."
Which is not in accordance to how you're supposed to use it on the version he owns (you look at the road, you let the car do the driving, and you take over if you get the alert). Still, I stand by my version, stats in hand, accidents/km, they are better than humans (and will improve at machine-speed).