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After watching this video, is there anybody who believes this interface is more of a driving aide than a distraction? "I'm sorry, officer, I drove the car off the road because I got lost in the menu..... "
 
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Interesting times.
While studying at the aalto university in Helsinki a friend of mine did some theoretical work on machine learning algorithms - one was a proof that a self learning system (where all possible combinations of sensor input is NOT checked and tested) will always make mistakes. As more testing is done (verified "correct" actions to sensor input in the database) the risk of a "false" action goes down - but it will never reach mathematical zero.

Unfortunately, neither will a human, and computers are starting to prove that are slightly better then humans in many things, like driving undistracted.
 
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I would prefer a hybrid human / machine driving car. When one makes a mistake, the other can recover from it.

There was a case of a self-driving Uber running a red light which shows that, while computers can correct for human error, it's difficult for it to happen the other way round.
 
Anyone notice that the headline states "fully automated", while the body only claims "highly automated"?

A headline writer is often not the same person who writes the article, and they sometimes they get sloppy. "Fully automated" means SAE level 5, while "highly automated" means SAE level 4 (there's a big difference). I think level 5 is a long ways off.
 
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Automated Audi's - not sure as cyclist I'm happy or sad about this. In the UK Audi have overtaken BMW as the marque driven by cocks (though Mercedes are getting there).
 
After watching this video, is there anybody who believes this interface is more of a driving aide than a distraction? "I'm sorry, officer, I drove the car off the road because I got lost in the menu..... "

I have one in my R8 - It doesn't distract me in anyway. Indeed it's far better than the car play rubbish i could also use if i wanted to.

Automated Audi's - not sure as cyclist I'm happy or sad about this. In the UK Audi have overtaken BMW as the marque driven by cocks (though Mercedes are getting there).

Dont you mean VW? its mandatory is it not to ownership..
 

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As more testing is done (verified "correct" actions to sensor input in the database) the risk of a "false" action goes down - but it will never reach mathematical zero.

In theory, it only needs to fall below the error rate of a typical human driver (which is far from mathematical zero) to be useful.

In practice, there are some problems: first, us apes are actually pretty darned good at driving - a few million years of swinging through the trees and anticipating the actions of other apes does wonders for your reflexes and spacial ability. Its a hard target.

Secondly, us apes are pretty irrational about risks (and some apes evolved into lawyers), so the public and media are going to hold self-driving cars to ridiculously high safety standards (and then still complain when their car drives around at 5mph below the posted limit and always waits until it is 100% safe to pull out). Also, I suspect auto-drive mistakes are going to be "weirder" than human accidents - rather than driving too fast too close, its gonna be mistaking a tree for a green traffic light, swerving to avoid a shadow, mistaking a car showroom for a side-road...

Methinks that self-driving cars are going to be "coming soon" for a long time... There's a huge "quantum leap" between the sort of cruise-control-plus and auto-parking features already on the market and something that lets the driver safely take their hands off the wheel.

I hope they don't turn into a "tar baby" that will delay the development of electric cars.
 
Some accidents are impossible to avoid (say a car falls in front of you from an overhead bridge, or something happens within braking distance). I believe an autonomous car is simply better than a driver, stats in hand, and that's already the case in highway driving.

Until it gets hacked, or a software bug shows up and in one day we have 100s or 1000s of accidents and deaths.
 
My wife isn't too keen on self driving, but she is excited about self parking. Especially self parallel parking.
Do you have a car with a backup camera? I recently bought a Subaru Outback with a backup camera and my parallel parking skills have increased at least 400%. I'm overly cautious.
 
Methinks that self-driving cars are going to be "coming soon" for a long time... There's a huge "quantum leap" between the sort of cruise-control-plus and auto-parking features already on the market and something that lets the driver safely take their hands off the wheel.
I think that some automakers such as Tesla and Audi are going to prove you wrong. Automated cars are certainly coming soon a lot faster today than they were a couple of years ago.

We've had human driven cars for well over a century, despite the fact that no one's come up with a car where drivers can safely put their hands on the wheel.
 
Or how about you are late on your payments and the car drives itself to the impound yard .. that would be cool. Or you have many unpaid parking tickets and the car drives you to the magistrate to pay up?

You are putting a lot of faith in the technology and the governmental bureaucracy behind it to always do the right thing. History shows they won't and usually don't.

Further .. I am sure this would open up a whole new world for hackers/criminals who I am sure will find ways to take control and divert cars for their own purposes.

And then the litigation piece .. once some of these cars actually are involved in accidents that kill people - both drivers and pedestrians - I am sure the companies that make them will be sued out of existence. Look at how many lawsuits arose just from faulty airbags.

No thanks.

I agree with the hacker part but the rest was just an arguement about being to poor to pay for your car or mistakes. Further, if you are late on payments or tickets now you lose you right car and go to jail (or pay the tickets).
 
Honda won't even produce a Civic Si with an automatic transmission. Even paddle shifters are off the table for discussion.
I'm so excited to test drive the Type R coming to the USA. Oh man.....
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And as a proud owner of a 2014 Civic Si .. that's exactly as it should be.
I miss my 05 Hatch :( She was taken from me too soon :(
 

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I had an Audi and a VW V6 (same exact engine as Audi), and both had hugely expensive engine repairs that were truly design issues, and both had the check-engine light on more than off.

For the 2008 Audi A4, even though the check-engine light was an on-going issue from day one (9K miles actually), after the 50K warranty expired, the dealer charged me $1,600 when it came on, and the next day it was on again and they charged me again. I said you owe me for the last one since that obviously wasn't the issues. The service manager responded "that's what the computer said it was." Then there was the time at 19K when the whole car shut down on an 8-lane highway in heavy traffic. The dealer said it was "just a random computer failure."

On the 1999 V6 VW, the rear cam seals blew out because the PCV (which they recommend never to change, and the dealer will not change it because of that even if you ask them to). I had to rent a car for two weeks because the PCVs were back ordered. Funny how they were back ordered when they don't change them. Maybe they had an issue they don't want to admit. Mine was out of warranty, but I had two friends with the same issue. And even though theirs were in warranty, VW wouldn't cover it because they didn't get their oil changed at the dealer. I found this especially hilarious, because the times I did have mine done at the dealer, they gave it back one quart low. I called the service manager and he said, "maybe the mechanic thought it was a 4 cylinder." Of course it said V6 in big silver characters right on the plastic engine cover.

Fast forward to this year, my co-worker bought a new GTI last year, and the entire engine needed to be replace for $12K. Even though it was under warranty, VW wouldn't cover for the same, you guessed it, didn't have the oil changed at the dealer.

I could go on for hours, never mind the recent cheating the codes on the diesels.

I would not buy another Audi (VW) product no matter what!
 
I love Tesla, but this claim is highly suspect, to say the least.
Good point, there are caveats, like the fact that Tesla being the safest car on the road, taking just the number of deaths is not the best way to do the math as people are more likely to survive a crash, but for now that's what there is, so if you wish, let me rephrase into "autonomous cars are not worse than human drivers" ;)

In any case, this is just the first iteration, and with improved hardware and software and more autonomous hours on the road, it can only get better.
 
At least with all the stupid self driving cars I'll be able to drive a motorcycle with greater peace of mind. Good thing nobody is making self driving motorcycles (not that anyone would buy one) So I've got that to look forward to.
 
After watching this video, is there anybody who believes this interface is more of a driving aide than a distraction? "I'm sorry, officer, I drove the car off the road because I got lost in the menu..... "

Don 't blame the device for distracted driving, the motorist is at fault.

Personal responsibility.
 
Nvidia is known to hype things beyond reality so don't take everything at face value. Got burned for not listening to people's warning.
 
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