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Last week I forgot to wear my watch into the office, which meant I would miss closing all three rings and therefore not meet my July challenge (close all 3 rings every day of the month).

I knew that had I not forgotten to wear my watch I would have closed my rings (760 / 30 / 12), since I had done the same amount of exercise as the day before.

So I lowered the Stand ring from 12 to 6 since I literally could not meet that ring after I got home (not enough hours remaining in the day).

I have an Apple Watch 6, and I saw the ability to change all three rings. I did not bother changing the Exercise ring, because I had met that during my morning run.

I have only had the AW6, and this was the first time I tried to adjust the Stand ring - I have no idea how long that has been possible.
 
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Another month, a little bit harder 😃
 
I think watchOS 7 changed that, you can set it to as low as 15 min, don't know what the max is, same for the stand ring ... they've been locked at 30min and 12 for so long, I never bothered to change them ...

Wow, you are right. I was so used to the last two being static, I didn't even look if I could change them. That's funny...
 
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Last week I forgot to wear my watch into the office, which meant I would miss closing all three rings and therefore not meet my July challenge (close all 3 rings every day of the month).

I knew that had I not forgotten to wear my watch I would have closed my rings (760 / 30 / 12), since I had done the same amount of exercise as the day before.

So I lowered the Stand ring from 12 to 6 since I literally could not meet that ring after I got home (not enough hours remaining in the day).

I have an Apple Watch 6, and I saw the ability to change all three rings. I did not bother changing the Exercise ring, because I had met that during my morning run.

I have only had the AW6, and this was the first time I tried to adjust the Stand ring - I have no idea how long that has been possible.

I feel like Dorthy on Wizard of Oz. All I had to do was look... WE HAVE THE POWER!!! (And we didn't even know it)
 
I have one day not to double my move ring this month. Not much wiggle room. But hit 400% yesterday and today.
Sadly, as you have already noted, the 400% days give you no benefits in your monthly challenge. 😢

But getting 400% twice in a row is mighty impressive. 👍

To paraphrase "For Those About to Rock" by AC/DC:
"We exercise at dawn on the front line
Like a bolt right outta the blue
The skies alight with a cross trainer bite
People will quadruple their Move ring tonight
For those about to get 400%, we salute you
For those about to get 400%, we salute you"
 
I have one day not to double my move ring this month. Not much wiggle room. But hit 400% yesterday and today.
What do you do to quadruple it? I don’t know if it’s my Apple Watch sensors or something but I find it impossible to quadruple my move goal (it’s 900 calories). I did it once or twice but had to walk like 45 km/28 miles.
 
Sadly, as you have already noted, the 400% days give you no benefits in your monthly challenge. 😢

But getting 400% twice in a row is mighty impressive. 👍

To paraphrase "For Those About to Rock" by AC/DC:
"We exercise at dawn on the front line
Like a bolt right outta the blue
The skies alight with a cross trainer bite
People will quadruple their Move ring tonight
For those about to get 400%, we salute you
For those about to get 400%, we salute you"

400% boosts in output could also be damaging to someones health. It's only if someone self training uses those 400% spikes more often. I tried to mix in harder intervals and would even do a week of hard fast rides, spreading out, yet not ignoring HIIT type rides.

It seems like the goals ignore the potential for some people to over-train, and suffer potential injuries or even pushing into possible Rhabdomyolysis, which is NOT a good place to find yourself.
 
400% boosts in output could also be damaging to someones health. It's only if someone self training uses those 400% spikes more often. I tried to mix in harder intervals and would even do a week of hard fast rides, spreading out, yet not ignoring HIIT type rides.

It seems like the goals ignore the potential for some people to over-train, and suffer potential injuries or even pushing into possible Rhabdomyolysis, which is NOT a good place to find yourself.
Good points, and it begs the question: what should your move goal really be? (Close to) the max you can do a day with all your exercise? Or what?
The key is imho, do not let the Matrix tell you what to do LOL…
This i think warrants it’s own thread here rather than discussing in the monthly thread where eventually it will get lost and repeated over and over again…
 
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Good points, and it begs the question: what should your move goal really be? (Close to) the max you can do a day with all your exercise? Or what?
The key is imho, do not let the Matrix tell you what to do LOL…
This i think warrants it’s own thread here rather than discussing in the monthly thread where eventually it will get lost and repeated over and over again…

Yeah, I got to the point where my Move goal was reaching unobtainium levels. Like over 1,000. It was such a hassle I had a hard time meeting it, let alone getting close to doubling it. I've had 740 for, well, a long time. It keeps trying to raise it, but occasionally I don't make the goal for much of the week.

My feeling is that a 'goal' for something like this should be something that you can meet, without ripping yourself apart. Could I up it to 800? Well, sure, but I could lower it to 680 too, and play both sides. The persont hat had theirs set to 250 struck me as 'Why have a goal, if it has to be so low you can easily reach it?' Well, unless you have some health circumstance that would require it to be that low (check back with me in a few years!:oops:)

But I guess the point I'm trying to make is that once you get on that road, you keep pushing, and keep pushing, and eventually something 'breaks'. (I had something happen after running for an hour, every night. I exacerbated an existing foot nerve issue, and it got so bad, I could barely walk. I had to have surgery, and all of that drama, all of it, took over 4 months. 4 months that I could seriously barely walk at times. I SHOULD have dealt with that YEARS prior)

People blow knees, wrench backs, collapse vertebrae, develop intestinal issues, shoulder and hip issues, and on and on... Especially young children! People were sticking their kids on their Peloton spin bikes, and some went ballistic on them, with good measure, because having your young child cranking out miles, cranking out programmed rides is asking for MAJOR problems. MAJOR MAJOR problems. Some flipped out, 'How dare you criticize how I raise my child!' Well, DUH!

But I threw in a tangent there about kids.

You do you, but do you in moderation. Look at 'realistic' goals. Everything in moderation... We (I) are/am not 20 anymore. Over doing exercise in your 'senior years' can really cause badness. And for people that don't exercise much to start being fixated on exercise can also cause major problems...

Moderation, and have fun!
 
Yeah, my August challenge is 4220 exercise minutes. That's over 2 hours of exercise minutes everyday. I'm active throughout the day. But for instance, I just walked 50 minutes this morning and it didn't register at all, I'm not breaking my back trying to re-create another 50 to count towards overall goal.

I'm just going to let August slide AND see what happens for my September challenge. Wait and see.
This is one thing I don't like about Apple Watch, it's the logistics behind these challenges. They just keep going up (like robot created these challenges not humans). Not taking account that people are in different age groups, male or female, have to work, have to care for kids/ parents/ pets, have to cook and clean, and everything else. And every night when my head hits the pillow. I'm REALLY exhausted.
 
Yeah, my August challenge is 4220 exercise minutes. That's over 2 hours of exercise minutes everyday. I'm active throughout the day. But for instance, I just walked 50 minutes this morning and it didn't register at all, I'm not breaking my back trying to re-create another 50 to count towards overall goal.
This may not be the case for you and workout you mentioned, but I have noticed that:
  • Unless my heart rate gets above 80 that I get no minutes towards my Exercise ring. This was usually when I did 20 - 30 minute workouts on the entry level recumbent bicycle machine I just replaced (and a major reason why I replaced it).
  • When my heart rate is in the upper 80s or higher, then most of the minutes in my exercise set go to my Exercise ring. The spin bike that I replaced the recumbent bike with has better resistance (heavier flywheel) and almost all of my minutes in the exercise set go to the Exercise ring.
I don't know if getting your heart rate up is a viable solution - like you mentioned, you do a lot of exercise during the day and walking a faster pace to increase your heart rate may not be an option. But I thought I would mention to, since I have seen similar Exercise ring behavior during my workouts.
 
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Yeah, my August challenge is 4220 exercise minutes. That's over 2 hours of exercise minutes everyday. I'm active throughout the day. But for instance, I just walked 50 minutes this morning and it didn't register at all, I'm not breaking my back trying to re-create another 50 to count towards overall goal.

I'm just going to let August slide AND see what happens for my September challenge. Wait and see.
This is one thing I don't like about Apple Watch, it's the logistics behind these challenges. They just keep going up (like robot created these challenges not humans). Not taking account that people are in different age groups, male or female, have to work, have to care for kids/ parents/ pets, have to cook and clean, and everything else. And every night when my head hits the pillow. I'm REALLY exhausted.

There is such a thing as 'over training'.

It's real, and it sucks the will to live. People that over train are nearly literally killing themselves through exercise. Their muscles don't have a chance to recover, their circulatory system is in the same state. Rhabdo is a real issue, and making mistakes and being injured are real threats to their future. I ride Zwift, a bike trainer 'game' where the software drives your bike on a trainer, or on a smart bike, to adjust the resistance in real time to simulate climbs and descents. And Zwift has events, races, and other sponsored activities. One year, their 45 day training circuit started. They dropped all of the exercise plans at the same time, and I started hammering at them. I occasionally did 2 of the rides a day, and got the whole list of rides done in 2 weeks. I was strong, but looking back, reckless. I finally, after doing the last one, took three days off riding. I pushed myself relentlessly. I didn't die, obviously, but I was not doing myself any favors I feel now.

Last year I rode nearly 7,500 miles, and unknowingly exacerbated a genetic flaw in my hip. Well, now I'm looking at a total hip replacement. Walking is hard. Riding, unsurprisingly, is not such a problem. Was I over training last year? Probably, but I felt fine. There is little doubt that riding so hard, and so much was unknowingly a bad idea. My point is that you can't always know that you have an extenuating circumstance that could lead direct to major badness...

Yeah, eventually my hip would have given out. It happens. Riding helped it, but time wasn't on my side. Would I have stopped riding knowing this was about to happen? No, probably not, but I could have ridden 'softer' rides.

Don't let The Matrix suck you into badness. All along, when I was over training, my Apple Watch was urging me on! Do more, do more now! Go farther! Like a friend that buys you more beer... I just hope I can get this operation, and its a success. With Delta and not Lambda surging, I hope this doesn't stall my hope to end the pain...

Don't over train...
 
True about over training. I took a break of a week from running last year since I was seeing some sustained (as in beyond one run) soreness in my legs. After the week off I was fine, and I suspect that had I not done that the soreness would have gotten worse.

I haven't "run" (1) across that this year, but it won't surprise me if I need to take another break thus year.

(1) Intentional pun. :cool:
 
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True about over training. I took a break of a week from running last year since I was seeing some sustained (as in beyond one run) soreness in my legs. After the week off I was fine, and I suspect that had I not done that the soreness would have gotten worse.

I haven't "run" (1) across that this year, but it won't surprise me if I need to take another break thus year.

(1) Intentional pun. :cool:

I found out that if I take a day off (recovery day) the day before a large effort, I can handle it much better, and did much better afterward. Recovery days suck, because it's hard to not feel I should be riding, but the time off is apparently necessary, or at least helps my performance. Don't deny recovery, and the need for it. Yeah. It sucks, but it's a good suck...
 
There is such a thing as 'over training'.

It's real, and it sucks the will to live. People that over train are nearly literally killing themselves through exercise. Their muscles don't have a chance to recover, their circulatory system is in the same state. Rhabdo is a real issue, and making mistakes and being injured are real threats to their future. I ride Zwift, a bike trainer 'game' where the software drives your bike on a trainer, or on a smart bike, to adjust the resistance in real time to simulate climbs and descents. And Zwift has events, races, and other sponsored activities. One year, their 45 day training circuit started. They dropped all of the exercise plans at the same time, and I started hammering at them. I occasionally did 2 of the rides a day, and got the whole list of rides done in 2 weeks. I was strong, but looking back, reckless. I finally, after doing the last one, took three days off riding. I pushed myself relentlessly. I didn't die, obviously, but I was not doing myself any favors I feel now.

Last year I rode nearly 7,500 miles, and unknowingly exacerbated a genetic flaw in my hip. Well, now I'm looking at a total hip replacement. Walking is hard. Riding, unsurprisingly, is not such a problem. Was I over training last year? Probably, but I felt fine. There is little doubt that riding so hard, and so much was unknowingly a bad idea. My point is that you can't always know that you have an extenuating circumstance that could lead direct to major badness...

Yeah, eventually my hip would have given out. It happens. Riding helped it, but time wasn't on my side. Would I have stopped riding knowing this was about to happen? No, probably not, but I could have ridden 'softer' rides.

Don't let The Matrix suck you into badness. All along, when I was over training, my Apple Watch was urging me on! Do more, do more now! Go farther! Like a friend that buys you more beer... I just hope I can get this operation, and its a success. With Delta and not Lambda surging, I hope this doesn't stall my hope to end the pain...

Don't over train...
Exactly! This is why I don't understand why Apple won't incorporate some kind of rest day feature into the watch. Sometimes I feel like these challenges push you way beyond healthy and reasonable limits. Sometimes it's good to push beyond your comfort zone, but these challenges sometimes make you constantly do that which isn't good. And they continue to get harder and harder to reach. I just don't get why Apple completely ignore the importance of rest.
 
Exactly! This is why I don't understand why Apple won't incorporate some kind of rest day feature into the watch. Sometimes I feel like these challenges push you way beyond healthy and reasonable limits. Sometimes it's good to push beyond your comfort zone, but these challenges sometimes make you constantly do that which isn't good. And they continue to get harder and harder to reach. I just don't get why Apple completely ignore the importance of rest.
Just joking but ....maybe because the lawyers haven't gotten involved yet????🤔
 
Exactly! This is why I don't understand why Apple won't incorporate some kind of rest day feature into the watch. Sometimes I feel like these challenges push you way beyond healthy and reasonable limits. Sometimes it's good to push beyond your comfort zone, but these challenges sometimes make you constantly do that which isn't good. And they continue to get harder and harder to reach. I just don't get why Apple completely ignore the importance of rest.
Because your an athlete. The rest of the population will just abuse the rest days feature!
Is it better to run 4 miles a day or 28 miles one day and nothing the rest of the week?
 
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