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Australian Regulators Targeting Apple Over '4G' Marketing Claims on New iPad
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People are still renting blu-ray discs and wondering why they don't play in their DVD player.
Welcome to America
Hahaha true dat!
Heard of bluray? And we're the idiots, down under.
This comparison is exactly the same as cars that can do 200mph, something which is legal on certain tracks in Australia. If your HD TV had no HD inputs (such as HDMI), I could see how you might want to consider a lawsuit.
Personally I think the idiots exist in USA, after all, the rest of the world is expected to dumb down mobile marketing terms because the Americans couldn't handle terms such as 3.5/75. What, is a decimal scary?
I hope, Apple solves this issue with upcoming iPhone
I am so happy, I hope EU will do the same with Apple herein Europe. Why Apple didn't considered rest of the world for 4G when they are selling the new iPad as 4G outside US. Why the heck they think everyone travels to US and thus have good reason for calling it iPad 4G because it does work in US. They should make one more version with retina display and 3G with a bit cheaper price or include all the bands in 4G module or could use iPad WiFi + limited 4G
I am so happy, I hope EU will do the same with Apple herein Europe. Why Apple didn't considered rest of the world for 4G when they are selling the new iPad as 4G outside US. Why the heck they think everyone travels to US and thus have good reason for calling it iPad 4G because it does work in US. They should make one more version with retina display and 3G with a bit cheaper price or include all the bands in 4G module or could use iPad WiFi + limited 4G
This. The 4G concept means nothing at this point.
If the term is patented, then the patent owner could go after anyone for calling a technology 4G, but I don't see there ever being a 5G, so I couldn't honestly care less what marketing calls it. I would imagine LTE is the future, so that will probably replace the 'G' designation.
thats why they removed the 4G logo in the specs on the european ipad sites. thanks god. now there is just a wi-fi-logo.
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Congratulations to CorporateFelon for taking the time to correctly read the ad in question. The iPad does, in fact, "connect to fast networks around the world" even if it does not in Australia.
Congratulations to CorporateFelon for taking the time to correctly read the ad in question. The iPad does, in fact, "connect to fast networks around the world" even if it does not in Australia.
Telstra's LTE 4G network is the 1800Mhz one i referred to in that post - the ipad 3 IS NOT COMPATIBLE with it I've edited my original post to make this more clear.
The ITU defines HSPA+ as 4G, and the new iPad clearly supports HSPA+ in Australia. It would be one thing if Apple were marketing this down under as an "LTE" device, but I don't see the problem with selling it as a "4G" device.
Duh!
Duh! I don't expect to have ANY reception where I live. That is reality. The Aussie government is just gold digging for fines to prop up their regime's budget. You also can't use the MP3 feature if you're deaf. You can't use the visuals of the display if you're blind. Duh.
Duh! I don't expect to have ANY reception where I live. That is reality. The Aussie government is just gold digging for fines to prop up their regime's budget. You also can't use the MP3 feature if you're deaf. You can't use the visuals of the display if you're blind. Duh.
Well, i´in Germany and despite my network speed not increasing the display on the iPhone has changed from 3G to 4G by itself recently. the same is happening for people in the US and other parts of Europe, so yeah..
Don't advertise it as 4G capable if 4G is not available in that country. Simply put 4G is only currently available for iPad in the US and Canada and should be advertised as such. Otherwise this is just false advertising and now amount of small print can make up for that.
No sorry.
If you advertise a car that can go 200 ... and there are country's where you are allowed to drive 200, and there are the ones where you can drive 120...
De manufacturier keeps advertising it as 200... because he don't know AND SHOULD NOT JUDGE about where you are going to use the product.
The device can do what it says in the specs.. .Where, how, when and why you are using it, does not matter....
I bet there is an disclaimer which says you need an 4g compatible provider...
Ugh. Consumers should take some responsibility about their purchases and perhaps do some research before handing over their credit cards on a whim, then worrying about how to pay their mortgage, and then trying to return unnecessarily purchased products to pay bills.
They should also stop listening to the advice of the complaining dude on the radio, the IT guy at work (who knows nothing) and their neighbors.
If the sales person didn't explain re: 4/3G there are misrepresentation laws where they are entitled to a refund.
If ACCC wins, we will NEVER get an Apple product on the initial launch day again!!
(which is the important thing here!)
They should also stop listening to the advice of the complaining dude on the radio, the IT guy at work (who knows nothing) and their neighbors.
If the sales person didn't explain re: 4/3G there are misrepresentation laws where they are entitled to a refund.
If ACCC wins, we will NEVER get an Apple product on the initial launch day again!!
(which is the important thing here!)
That's exactly what misleading advertising means. This statement would be fine if the aforementioned World included Australia.
No, the car is a bad analogy because, as I stated earlier, you can legally do 200 MPH on a track (and I bet pretty much every country has a race track that's open to the public - or at least people with enough money to buy a car capable of 200). There's nowhere in Australia where the iPad can use LTE.
There is a better way. Consumers tell their governments to create special bodies that watch for liers like Apple and put them on notice. This is way better than having each consumer to learn what 4G and million other standards mean and then verify it for each product out there.
Did you actualy read the article?
No one is suing anyone.
Lawyers are not involved in any way shape or form.
You seem to want to have a rant about litigious societies and apple being singled out for unfair treatment.
But that is NOT what this is.
One more time - NO ONE IS GETTING SUED
This is the regulatory body asking apple to change their marketing only.
Can I just point out that Apple clearly believes that HSPA+ does not fall under the 4G umbrella. They clearly accept that 4G access is not available outside of AT&T and Verizon (and the three Canadian carriers) on all their iPad pages worldwide...
By their own definition, Apple accepts that 4G access is not available to those purchasing an iPad which is 'WiFi + 4G' in Australia.
So to all those yakking on about how the large HSPA+ networks in Australia technically mean that Apple does off 4G -- you're wrong.
Apple should not being marketing this product as 4G, then taking that entire element back in their fine print. By their own admission, 4G is not supported in Australia, so therefore saying loud and clear that it is is misleading and deceptive.
Go for it ACCC.
By their own definition, Apple accepts that 4G access is not available to those purchasing an iPad which is 'WiFi + 4G' in Australia.
So to all those yakking on about how the large HSPA+ networks in Australia technically mean that Apple does off 4G -- you're wrong.
Apple should not being marketing this product as 4G, then taking that entire element back in their fine print. By their own admission, 4G is not supported in Australia, so therefore saying loud and clear that it is is misleading and deceptive.
Go for it ACCC.