me:
"one doesn't exclude the other, its not an either or, apple face competition from older gen, and android phones, to write off competition from android is blind ignorance."
Abazigal:
"The impact of competition from android is also being vastly over-exaggerated here."
he claim i exaggerated android competition, meanwhile all i said its both old iphone refuse to upgrade and more competition from android.
i wouldn't know how they are selling, i don't buy them, but based on numbers of phone shipped index, apple dropping from 2nd to 3rd doesn't sound too good, ofcourse you and others could simply cherry pick info on what works for you and what doesn't. so i'm not a convent to convert anyone
edit" iphone 11 still use the same intel radio chip as last gen, the same radio chip that made me drop coverage at my office, receiving important email literally 4 hours later. missed text message, suffice to say i got a good unofficial reprement because of the poor coverage from my previous intel iphone. the problem only started when i went from my verizon iphone x to Xr, suffice to say almost 2 weeks later i returned it and got my x back.