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Notsureifsrs, getting nominated for an Oscar only happens to Great movies.

Nope. Hasn't been that way for years. Just last year they went from 5 to 10 nominees. Why? Was it because there are so many great movies every year? No, it was because producers want to label there movie as a nominee so it will make more money.
 
Just because it was nominated for an oscar doesn't make it a good movie. There is a lot of politics involved in getting a nomination. Also it looked great and sounded great. The art direction was great. There was a lot of good in that film. But the script sucked, so it was all a waste of time.

I write software used to make movies (including this one, and Titanic, which I also enjoyed MOST of), so even if the script wasn't Citizen Kane or Chinatown I enjoy watching the fruits of my labor on the big screen. So I don't consider it a waste of time.

Now I'll refer you back to that "opinions are like you know what..." comment.
 
Nope. Hasn't been that way for years. Just last year they went from 5 to 10 nominees. Why? Was it because there are so many great movies every year? No, it was because producers want to label there movie as a nominee so it will make more money.

Actually, they switched to 10 so they can get more viewers. And all 10 movies are great films.
 
I write software used to make movies (including this one, and Titanic, which I also enjoyed MOST of), so even if the script wasn't Citizen Kane or Chinatown I enjoy watching the fruits of my labor on the big screen. So I don't consider it a waste of time.

Now I'll refer you back to that "opinions are like you know what..." comment.

I understand what you are saying. I've worked on the worst film I've ever seen. As long as the checks clear, I'd do the sequel. And I'd do the best dam job I could, and be proud of it at the end of the day. I still think the movie would be a steaming pile though.

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Actually, they switched to 10 so they can get more viewers. And all 10 movies are great films.

Well, thats wrong. Also, that is one of the reasons I don't watch it anymore. Although, I might consider watching if Ricky Gervais hosted. He was great at the golden globes.
 
This is hollywood, you have to read between the lines. Nobody ever says what the really mean. The real reason for the extra nominees is to make more money selling DVDs and international box office receipts.

That's what you think, but you don't have proof for that. Name a movie that's not good that was nominated for best picture then.
 
I write software used to make movies (including this one, and Titanic, which I also enjoyed MOST of), so even if the script wasn't Citizen Kane or Chinatown I enjoy watching the fruits of my labor on the big screen. So I don't consider it a waste of time.

Now I'll refer you back to that "opinions are like you know what..." comment.

You sir...have my fantasy job. I'm fairly jealous :D
 
*sigh* http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/avatar/

92% of people liked it, regular people like us. No one who works for hollywood, just regular people. You never see that happen to a bad movie.

99% of the time I agree with Rotten Tomatoes. On this I can't. Also, most of the people I talk to, who liked the movie, will still agree that the script was bad, cliché, whatever, but they still like the movie because it was so beautiful. This baffles me. Anyway, there is no accounting for taste.
 
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99% of the time I agree with Rotten Tomatoes. On this I can't. Also, most of the people I talk to, who liked the movie, will still agree that the script was bad, cliché, whatever, but the still like the movie because it was so beautiful. This baffles me.

Then, that sir is your opinion. :rolleyes:
 
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What's with the Lion King bashing? It ripped off some '60s cartoon hardly anyone has seen?

First of all, Avatar wasn't just a ripoff, it was a poorly executed one (story wise). The climax of the movie involves the main bad guy jumping out of an airplane in his mech suit which for some reason was armed with a sheathed supersized mech dagger, just so they could battle to the death. It's nonsense. Fern Gully is a much better telling of this story.

Now, the comparisons made between The Lion King and Kimba the White Lion are mainly visual. Some shots are the same, the characters and main animals are similar, the names are similar, but not so much is said about the plot. Disney has even said the story of Lion King was based around Hamlet. Do you feel it's a Hamlet, ripoff, though? Of course not, because of how it was executed.
 
First of all, Avatar wasn't just a ripoff, it was a poorly executed one (story wise). The climax of the movie involves the main bad guy jumping out of an airplane in his mech suit which for some reason was armed with a sheathed supersized mech dagger, just so they could battle to the death. It's nonsense. Fern Gully is a much better telling of this story.

That's your opinion, I prefer Avatar to Fern Gully, my opinion though.

Now, the comparisons made between The Lion King and Kimba the White Lion are mainly visual. Some shots are the same, the characters and main animals are similar, the names are similar, but not so much is said about the plot. Disney has even said the story of Lion King was based around Hamlet. Do you feel it's a Hamlet, ripoff, though? Of course not, because of how it was executed.

There's no coincidence that Lion King is a rip off of Kimba the White Lion.

Both Simba and Hamlet are on a quest to avenge their fathers and take back their kingdoms. Both had their uncle kill their father and assume power. Both were visited by the ghosts of their fathers to inspire them to take revenge.

Don't get me wrong, I love Lion King, one of my favorite movies, but it's not original.
 
That's your opinion, I prefer Avatar to Fern Gully, my opinion though.



There's no coincidence that Lion King is a rip off of Kimba the White Lion.

Both Simba and Hamlet are on a quest to avenge their fathers and take back their kingdoms. Both had their uncle kill their father and assume power. Both were visited by the ghosts of their fathers to inspire them to take revenge.

Don't get me wrong, I love Lion King, one of my favorite movies, but it's not original.

You just made my point. The story of Lion King is based on Hamlet, while the look of Lion King is based on Kimba. The story is more important, which is why the similarities to Kimba don't really matter. The similarities to Hamlet indeed show that it's the same story, but no one considers that a ripoff because it was a well-told version of the story. It comes down to execution.
 
Yikes everyone is still arguing.

Avatar was an excellent movie in my opinion.

Avatar had a fairly original plot in my opinion. (I don't recall people growing genetic representations of alien life and linking in to them so they can walk around as them in any other movie.)

Sure it has a similar overall plot to Ferngully, Pocahontas, Dances with Wolves, and many other stories before it but seriously pretty much ANY movie has similarities to other movies which have similarities to stories written long ago. Ever hear of "Hero's Journey"? That phrase right there encompasses many movies and almost all games out there. They all follow a similar plot but are made unique through character interactions and story twists.

Avatar was a major technical achievement for film. (Not an opinion).

Avatar was nominated for best picture (not an opinion, and also shows many others liked the movie).

Avatar was created to entertain, and did entertain many people (again, not an opinion, I don't know a single person in real life who didn't like that movie).

I'm not sure why people are on here acting like its the worst movie they've ever seen. If its so bad why click a link on Macrumors that says "Avatar" in the title?
 
Lame that you have to repurchase it, I wish studios would stop screwing over customers like that, but I guess they do kind of exist to make money.

That's right. It is totally wrong morally to FORCE people to buy a product!!! I heard on F$% News that you would get thrown in jail if you don't buy this!! I don't understand why they let terrorists walk around free but people who don't buy Avatar have to go to prison!!!!! /satire
 
Yikes everyone is still arguing.

Avatar was an excellent movie in my opinion.

Avatar had a fairly original plot in my opinion. (I don't recall people growing genetic representations of alien life and linking in to them so they can walk around as them in any other movie.)

Sure it has a similar overall plot to Ferngully, Pocahontas, Dances with Wolves, and many other stories before it but seriously pretty much ANY movie has similarities to other movies which have similarities to stories written long ago. Ever hear of "Hero's Journey"? That phrase right there encompasses many movies and almost all games out there. They all follow a similar plot but are made unique through character interactions and story twists.

Avatar was a major technical achievement for film. (Not an opinion).

Avatar was nominated for best picture (not an opinion, and also shows many others liked the movie).

Avatar was created to entertain, and did entertain many people (again, not an opinion, I don't know a single person in real life who didn't like that movie).

I'm not sure why people are on here acting like its the worst movie they've ever seen. If its so bad why click a link on Macrumors that says "Avatar" in the title?

I agree 100% with you.
 
92% of people liked it, regular people like us. No one who works for hollywood, just regular people. You never see that happen to a bad movie.

Yes, and 87% liked Rise of the Planet of the Apes....the general viewing public doesn't have particularly discriminating taste. The number of people who like a movie like Avatar or Transformers often has little to do with the quality of the movie. To those solidly in the middle of the bell curve, high tech, 3D, action, etc. equates with "good". If you enjoy it, have fun! But don't confuse that with being good cinema.
 
I actually saw Cameron bowling with his kids at the lanes by my house, and it took all my self control to keep from walking over and punching him in the face for wasting 12 years of his life and 3 hours of mine on this horrable, horrable film.:mad:

I understand what you are saying. I've worked on the worst film I've ever seen. As long as the checks clear, I'd do the sequel. And I'd do the best dam job I could, and be proud of it at the end of the day. I still think the movie would be a steaming pile though.
So If I ever watch said movie and then later recognize you on the street some how you won't take offense if I punch you in the face? ;)


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The Green Screen Xray is a nifty trick indeed.

Also I can't resist throwing my 2 cents on the "it was a good film or not debate". The film never would have made the 2.78 billion in box office, not even close if it was one fraction as bad as some of these film snobs describe it as. I love the idea that a teensy tiny set of individuals that loathe the movie always find a way find a way to suggest that everyone else in the world has no clue what a good film is. You guys crack me up.
 
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