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Backlight bleeding

Maybe a fix

Flexing out spots worked for me a bit.
I went into Dark room. Flexed it until I loosened it up a bit removing some bleed. The one bleed most ppl have is just to the right of the home key. It's still there but almost completely gone. I didn't kill any pixels either....sheesh! It's already got internal parts pressing against it causing the bleed.

Also if you walk into a dark room the screen will still be on bright. If you switch sleep (top) button off then on it will be dimmer in the dark room and you will notice the bleed isn't so bad.

Side note. Apple stoe has replacements that are out of box for this problem if it's bad. I couldn't get a straight answer if they were refurbs or not. Just that the packaging wasn't there as we already got the box first time around Lol
I'm sticking with mine. Watching Netflix I can't see it.
The black screen will never be truly black so a little more fade on the edge is nothing.

To those that have it bad I apologize for seeming it's nothing but I swear mine did just look bad and I flexed/massaged it around the spots. That is if you have a half circle spot try massaging on the sides of it that are dark and flexing it so the light spot has more curve in the back. Then take a look.
It's just the internal parts pressing against it.
 
interwebs said:
Your analogy to camera sensors is a red herring. Backlight bleed is not a technological limitation; it is an aberration from design and function. It is intrinsic to the function of the gain mechanism used for raising the sensitivity of a photosensor that noise goes up. It is not intrinsic to the function of an LCD that it has backlight bleed, and it is thus aberrant. Your use of the phrase "perfect LCD" would be unintelligible if it were not the case that it propositionally referenced the notion of aberrance. If you as a consumer have a different tolerance for defect, that's your business. Where you find the moral authority to criticize others for their preference in this respect remains a mystery.

Aside from that, the bleed may be due to an assembly error, not a manufacturing defect in the LCDs themselves. If that were the case, I am highly skeptical that a genuine "limit of technology" exists with respect to proper assembly.
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No, the analogies are right on the money, whether you decide to accept it is your business. Bottom line is, if you don't like how Apple produces their products, then don't buy them. The other choice is that you continue to wander around a forum like this, stomping your feet and jeering about how it's just not fair and that you should be able to get a perfect LCD if you want one for the price that Apple is charging. Maybe you should run off to the LG and Samsung sites. Or call Foxconn and let them have it with respect to their assembly methods. Or better yet, exchange a few hundred times and log a few thousand hours in a dark closet looking for light bleed.

At the end of the day, Apple will continue to sell millions of iPads in their current state, with the majority of consumers perfectly happy and content, and you'll gain a few clicks for Macrumors and never be able to enjoy the device. Good luck with that.
 
jedivulcan said:
The screen is a lot warmer compared to my much cooler iPhone 4's display.
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Of the six or so iPad's I've had, the ones with the really warm screens had the least bleed, but they were also the least bright by comparison and... well... yellow.

There are at least three different iPad display suppliers, and each one provides a display with a color tone that's different from the others. At one time, we had three iPad's in our house, and each one was different. One had a very warm screen, one had a nice neutral tone, and another that was clearly in the middle. They were all black 64GB Verizon units, so the only way to physically tell them apart was to compare screens.
 
cmvsm said:
Its more like most everyone accepts the fact that this is how it is with LCD technology, and perfection is not in the equation. The viewpoint is not limited to iPads and plasma tv's have been put out to pasture, despite the LCD 'flaw'.
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You're not recognizing that there are tolerable limits to backlight bleeding. Yes, all LCDs display a certain level of it. But some of the examples that have been posted here are absolutely unacceptable.

However, also acknowledging that some of the posters here are being extremely picky and making a big deal out of nothing, IMHO. BUT then again, it's their hard-earned money spent. If they want to go through the hell of swapping out their iPads 6-7 times just to find a "perfect" screen, it's their prerogative, and as long as Apple is accommodating them, then so be it.
 
There seems to a wide range of screen quality.
The first ipad2 There was a significant number of spot lights along the borders while watching movies.
When I say this thread I chose to return it. The genius didn't ask any questions. He simply took it out back and came out with a replacement.
So either apple knows there is a problem or they have relaxed their return policies tremendously.
Spending $850 I want perfect, and yes if it takes testing it in a dark room.
 
cmvsm said:
No, the analogies are right on the money, whether you decide to accept it is your business. Bottom line is, if you don't like how Apple produces their products, then don't buy them.
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That's not a substantive argument. You essentially just said "no, I'm right, and I don't even have to bother justifying my argument because it's manifestly true." Give me a break. I already provided you a detailed explanation of why the analogy doesn't hold. It is intrinsic to gain that noise, too, will rise in amplitude. No such thing applies to the bright spots people are getting on their screens.

People aren't referring to the generic edge bleed that is in LCDs; they're referring to the peculiar large, bright spots and regions that are not present in every LCD (or even close; this is first time I'd ever had a product with this problem).

The other choice is that you continue to wander around a forum like this, stomping your feet and jeering about how it's just not fair and that you should be able to get a perfect LCD if you want one for the price that Apple is charging. Maybe you should run off to the LG and Samsung sites. Or call Foxconn and let them have it with respect to their assembly methods. Or better yet, exchange a few hundred times and log a few thousand hours in a dark closet looking for light bleed.

At the end of the day, Apple will continue to sell millions of iPads in their current state, with the majority of consumers perfectly happy and content, and you'll gain a few clicks for Macrumors and never be able to enjoy the device. Good luck with that.
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So, double down with the fallacies and employ a strawman too? People here aren't petulant children throwing temper tantrums in an Apple Store and crying about life not being fair. They know that there is variability in how much bleed is in each unit, casting that against a backdrop of their own preferences, and acting accordingly. Again, it's unclear to me why you believe you have the moral authority to criticize others on this point, but nothing you have offered up so far has resembled a justification. Instead, it's simply a verbose equivalent of "you guys are unreasonable jerks so there."
 
bruinsrme said:
There seems to a wide range of screen quality.
The first ipad2 There was a significant number of spot lights along the borders while watching movies.
When I say this thread I chose to return it. The genius didn't ask any questions. He simply took it out back and came out with a replacement.
So either apple knows there is a problem or they have relaxed their return policies tremendously.
Spending $850 I want perfect, and yes if it takes testing it in a dark room.
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I think Apple must be aware of the problem. When my iPad arrived with significant bleed, I was advised by Apple to take it to the Apple store for exchange even though it was engraved. I didn't have any problem at the store and when I asked "what if this one has the same problem?" I was told, "Don't worry, it won't". He was right, because it didn't. I think this store has set aside iPads that they know don't have the bleed for exchange. It was in a brown box. IMO
 
sandylp said:
I think Apple must be aware of the problem. When my iPad arrived with significant bleed, I was advised by Apple to take it to the Apple store for exchange even though it was engraved. I didn't have any problem at the store and when I asked "what if this one has the same problem?" I was told, "Don't worry, it won't". He was right, because it didn't. I think this store has set aside iPads that they know don't have the bleed for exchange. It was in a brown box. IMO
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My only confusion on the brown box issue is this; if iPads coming out of brown boxes do not exhibit bleed (or do to a very small extent) then Apple must have a grasp on how to eliminate the issue. If that is the case why not ship all iPads with this "revision"? I guess some will say they want to ship all of their remaining flawed product first and then will phase the "fixed" models in after that. With enough cash reserves to buy out every other major mobile phone manufacturer in existence, recalling these defective units wouldn't even put a nick in their bottom line.
 
I got my replacement iPad 2, two weeks ago and the screen is perfect. No backlight bleed at all. Luckily Target had the same 64GB 3G model in stock at another store and held it for me. Although the first one had the bleed issue it wasn't that bad. It had to be replaced due to connectivity issues only.
 
DLXFV - Things Must Be Getting Better!

Well, I took the plunge on Friday and finally bought my wife's iPad. Mine will be next. Hers is a 64GB-ATT-White. Mine will be the same, only Black. I can only hope mine is as good as hers! There is NO visible light bleed, let alone blobs or flashlights! Don't see any dead pixels either. Ditto for dust under the screen, yellow spots, or dented aluminum. Colors are deep and vibrant. Can't tell for sure where on the color temp scale it fits, since I have nothing to compare it with right now. But it looks fine, bright, evenly lit, etc. I think it might be neutral-to-warm. It's definately not cool or cold. But it is not dull at all! So we absolutely have a keeper here!

The serial number starts with DLXFV. That V signifies it as being made in the 24th week of the year---last week. They must've made it last Sunday or Monday and it got to a Delaware Best Buy where I bought it on Friday. Whew! That's good news too; the things are finally moving now. Tim Cook's "mother of all backlogs" may FINALLY be coming to an end, along with improved assembly techniques. A win-win all around; may it be true!

Now I go look for mine. :)
 
DeeGee48 said:
Well, I took the plunge on Friday and finally bought my wife's iPad. Mine will be next. Hers is a 64GB-ATT-White. Mine will be the same, only Black. I can only hope mine is as good as hers! There is NO visible light bleed, let alone blobs or flashlights! Don't see any dead pixels either. Ditto for dust under the screen, yellow spots, or dented aluminum. Colors are deep and vibrant. Can't tell for sure where on the color temp scale it fits, since I have nothing to compare it with right now. But it looks fine, bright, evenly lit, etc. I think it might be neutral-to-warm. It's definately not cool or cold. But it is not dull at all! So we absolutely have a keeper here!

The serial number starts with DLXFV. That V signifies it as being made in the 24th week of the year---last week. They must've made it last Sunday or Monday and it got to a Delaware Best Buy where I bought it on Friday. Whew! That's good news too; the things are finally moving now. Tim Cook's "mother of all backlogs" may FINALLY be coming to an end, along with improved assembly techniques. A win-win all around; may it be true!

Now I go look for mine. :)
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There's a couple in that week that were bad. I would be curious to know what luck you have on the second one. :)
 
DLXFV - Things Must Be Getting Better!

sandylp said:
There's a couple in that week that were bad. I would be curious to know what luck you have on the second one. :)
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ME TOO, you can bet on that! I certainly will be posting the results here, so keep watching this space. Might be a week or two; still trying to get 'the case thing' sorted out. My wife got the STM Skinny, which I really like for it's minimalism and perfect functionality. Very nice, so maybe. But I've also been looking at the Switcheasy Canvas .... just can't decide yet (even with all the online reviews!) The STM is available around here so you can go see it first, but the Canvas MUST be ordered online. No sampling. Aarrgghh! :mad:
 
DeeGee48 said:
ME TOO, you can bet on that! I certainly will be posting the results here, so keep watching this space. Might be a week or two; still trying to get 'the case thing' sorted out. My wife got the STM Skinny, which I really like for it's minimalism and perfect functionality. Very nice, so maybe. But I've also been looking at the Switcheasy Canvas .... just can't decide yet (even with all the online reviews!) The STM is available around here so you can go see it first, but the Canvas MUST be ordered online. No sampling. Aarrgghh! :mad:
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Get the Skinny. I, along with a lot of people here at MR recommend that case. I accidentally dropped my iPad on cement with the case on it and both the Skinny and iPad 2 is 100% spotless and in perfect condition.
 
DLXFV - Things Must Be Getting Better!

Yumunum said:
Get the Skinny. ... I accidentally dropped my iPad on cement with the case on it
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Good Lord! You dropped it on CEMENT?? I have no intention of repeating that test, but your 'results' are good to know! Any details? From how high, how did it land, etc? I've been leaning towards it since seeing hers; I like the, well, 'skinnyness'! :D
 
DeeGee48 said:
Good Lord! You dropped it on CEMENT?? I have no intention of repeating that test, but your 'results' are good to know! Any details? From how high, how did it land, etc? I've been leaning towards it since seeing hers; I like the, well, 'skinnyness'! :D
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About 4 feet off the ground, the iPad hit the ground starting with it's top right corner. I was pretty surprised it didn't break or bend in any way, especially considering it hit a corner vs. landing on it's back or front.
 
DLXFV - Things Must Be Getting Better!

Yumunum said:
About 4 feet off the ground, the iPad hit the ground starting with it's top right corner. I was pretty surprised it didn't break or bend in any way, especially considering it hit a corner vs. landing on it's back or front.
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WOW! That's absolutely incredible. Thanks for the info and the lesson. AND DON'T DO IT AGAIN!!! :)
 
Yumunum said:
Get the Skinny. I, along with a lot of people here at MR recommend that case. I accidentally dropped my iPad on cement with the case on it and both the Skinny and iPad 2 is 100% spotless and in perfect condition.
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Can you link me to this case?
 
I just got an iPad 2 today, while backlight bleeding was present (which I frankly had already accepted as an inevitability), it wasn't as noticeable as this dead/bright pixel. :(
 

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Roessnakhan said:
I just got an iPad 2 today, while backlight bleeding was present (which I frankly had already accepted as an inevitability), it wasn't as noticeable as this dead/bright pixel. :(
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What's the serial number (first five), so user512 can post it on the chart?
 
My iPad 2 has light bleed but I want a cool tint screen instead of the replacement yellow warm ones. Is there any chance they can give me a cool screen with no light bleed?
 
has there been an official statement about the light bleed from Apple?
i just been to my local apple store yesterday and they said that they will replace my ipad2 but it is only one time as it is their policy. if the next one has light bleed, they won't replace it anymore.
:(
 
Statement?!

iJays: has there been an official statement about the light bleed from Apple? /QUOTE]

NO! And there won't be. Most consumers know nothing of it. Only us 'forum feeders'. They're not going to 'out themselves'.
 
DeeGee48 said:
iJays: has there been an official statement about the light bleed from Apple? /QUOTE]

NO! And there won't be. Most consumers know nothing of it. Only us 'forum feeders'. They're not going to 'out themselves'.
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I pity the average consumers. I don't used to go to forums until my iMac 3rd gen broke down. It broke literally just a couple of months after the extended Applecare expired. I went to bring it to the my local apple store and they said that I will need to pay for the repair myself because the applecare has expired and the recall deadline for the known fault (capacitor bulging) has already passed. I have registered the iMac with them with the extended applecare and I didn't get any emails for the recall. After that, I always make sure I am up-to-date with any known issues with my apple products.

I think if Apple can get away with it, they will. They almost got away with the antenna issue with the iPhone4 until the Consumer Agency in the US made their report.

Apple is turning to be like Microsoft.
 
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