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Alt/Option is used for a lot of keyboard shortcuts, and in many apps, holding it down will alter the behavior of a button or something in the UI, cf. iTunes. (If anything, it would be better to ask about Control, but that's still needed for some Unixy and now Windows apps...not to mention that's an additional modifier for keyboard shorcuts.)

And brackets are used because, in addition to being standard on US keyboards, square brackets are often required in typing, and curly braces...well, besides math (which they are pretty much useless for at that size anyway), you need them for programming in many languages? :D I do wonder who decided those would be a good idea...

I understand why they're needed...but the alt/option key...2 names for one key is annoying. But I completely understand. I'm just a curmudgeon.
 
Backlit keyboard is actually a deciding factor for me. I've already kind of warmed up to the fact that the screens are glass, now I must know about the keyboard.
 
I called 4 separate sales reps and they all told me the 2.0 had the backlit keyboard. I got so flustered that one of them spoke to her supervisor and told me it did indeed have it. She said if I didn't receive one with the backlit keyboard to call them and they would "make it right" for me.

It shipped this evening.

Same deal here, I've also ordered a 2.0 tonight...

and I want the backlit keyboard so I wonder if/hope they will do something, I'd love to get the 2.4ghz model
 
I called 4 separate sales reps and they all told me the 2.0 had the backlit keyboard. I got so flustered that one of them spoke to her supervisor and told me it did indeed have it. She said if I didn't receive one with the backlit keyboard to call them and they would "make it right" for me.

It shipped this evening.

Yeah they will let you return it without paying a restocking fee and you can pay the $300 difference. Do you really think you should be entitled to something more? It's not like you paid for something and didnt receive it.
 
$300 nets you want? A bump in HDD space, a faster processor, and the backlit keyboard? Damn that is some expensive ass back lighting
 
Hi guys!

To add to all this last night I ordered a 2.0 macbook and it stated on the website "Illuminated Keyboard" and I even have it in my order receipt. Today I noticed online it didn't and so I called apple and the guy I spoke to told me that the new macbook pro's do have it but it just says "Keyboard" because it is a standard feature and assured me mine would ship with a lighted keyboard.

I hope hes right :D
 
Hi guys!

To add to all this last night I ordered a 2.0 macbook and it stated on the website "Illuminated Keyboard" and I even have it in my order receipt. Today I noticed online it didn't and so I called apple and the guy I spoke to told me that the new macbook pro's do have it but it just says "Keyboard" because it is a standard feature and assured me mine would ship with a lighted keyboard.

I hope hes right :D

Wouldnt count on it...if you really want the backlight - cancel that order and order the 2.4, which is the model that comes with it.

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It's not a mystery. It's not backlit.
You are correct. If you look at one of the pictures posted by the OP, you can see that the F5 AND F6 keys do NOT have the brightness for the backlit keyboard = no backlit keyboard...

The F5 and F6 keys on a 2.4 GHz Macbook have those function keys, you can check the unboxing photo's on Engadget.
 
Hello!

Here in Sweden you can't get a 2.0 GHz MacBook with the backlit keyboard.. Only with the 2.4 GHz Model I think.

When I put the 2.0 GHz and the 2.4 GHz in the cart you can only see that the 2.4 GHz model has backlit keyboard..
 
Deal breaker. It should be a minor options upgrade, but it isn't. Apple's going to lose a bunch of customers over this.

It's a deal breaker for a fraction of their customers who are so picky that they want a keyboard that lights up. I have never, ever felt the need to have my keys light up as the light from the screen is more than enough to illuminate them even in a totally dark room.

If you guys want to spend almost £200 extra just to get the glowing keys then you must have a lot more money to burn than I do.
 
Deal breaker. It should be a minor options upgrade, but it isn't. Apple's going to lose a bunch of customers over this.

Seriously? Keyboard lights? Deal breaker? That's... kinda crazy. Especially considering that no one was even talking about this feature at all prior to the MacBook announcements. Be happy with the other new features instead.
 
Seriously? Keyboard lights? Deal breaker? That's... kinda crazy. Especially considering that no one was even talking about this feature at all prior to the MacBook announcements. Be happy with the other new features instead.

I wouldn't mind if it was a $100 option for just the backlit keyboard. It was something that I wished my 12" had, and now I think my 12" was cheaper than the new low-end MacBook when I bought it.
 
okay, i dont think i have ever been mean on a forum but some of you people are pissing me off. those of you saying no, it definitely is a mistake there is no backlit on the entry-level. YES THERE IS. It has been confirmed, the site is not messed up. yesterday there was cofusion between the reps but if you talked to them anytime past 9 last night you would know that it does indeed have it. say what you know. and yes, i have spoken with them, multiple reps actually.
besides, if that is a deal breaker for you then your crazy, imo.
 
Deal breaker. It should be a minor options upgrade, but it isn't. Apple's going to lose a bunch of customers over this.

I doubt "bunch" is the correct word here. If backlit keys are THAT important to you (where you rather not have a computer versus having one) than I am sure you will cough up the extra $300 for the 2.4. It is just not worth it IMHO.
 
okay, i dont think i have ever been mean on a forum but some of you people are pissing me off. those of you saying no, it definitely is a mistake there is no backlit on the entry-level. YES THERE IS. It has been confirmed, the site is not messed up. yesterday there was cofusion between the reps but if you talked to them anytime past 9 last night you would know that it does indeed have it. say what you know. and yes, i have spoken with them, multiple reps actually.

Ok... so then why did they change the Apple Store to say that the entry-level MacBooks DO NOT have the backlit keyboard? That wouldn't make much sense. Why change something that was already correct?
 
okay, i dont think i have ever been mean on a forum but some of you people are pissing me off. those of you saying no, it definitely is a mistake there is no backlit on the entry-level. YES THERE IS. It has been confirmed, the site is not messed up. yesterday there was cofusion between the reps but if you talked to them anytime past 9 last night you would know that it does indeed have it. say what you know. and yes, i have spoken with them, multiple reps actually.
besides, if that is a deal breaker for you then your crazy, imo.

But the site was corrected this morning. See for yourself. It's a bummer and they should address this properly.
 
okay, i dont think i have ever been mean on a forum but some of you people are pissing me off. those of you saying no, it definitely is a mistake there is no backlit on the entry-level. YES THERE IS. It has been confirmed, the site is not messed up. yesterday there was cofusion between the reps but if you talked to them anytime past 9 last night you would know that it does indeed have it. say what you know. and yes, i have spoken with them, multiple reps actually.
besides, if that is a deal breaker for you then your crazy, imo.

How has it been confirmed that the 2.0 HAS a backlit keyboard? Bc some apple rep told you? It has already been said that on the Engadget pics, the 2.0 MB doesnt have the keyboard light marks on the F5 and F6 keys.
 
I doubt "bunch" is the correct word here. If backlit keys are THAT important to you (where you rather not have a computer versus having one) than I am sure you will cough up the extra $300 for the 2.4. It is just not worth it IMHO.

I'm hoping that they'll make it a minor $100 upgrade later on. It's a cool feature that I really want, but not for $300. So I'll keep my WhiteBook until it dies.
 
I'm hoping that they'll make it a minor $100 upgrade later on. It's a cool feature that I really want, but not for $300. So I'll keep my WhiteBook until it dies.

I doubt they will, Apple is smart...if you rather have the backlit keys you will jump for the 2.4 (which you also get a faster processor and larger HD). Again not worth it IMHO, the .4 will not make a huge difference and 160 GB is more than enough for me.
 
okay, i dont think i have ever been mean on a forum but some of you people are pissing me off. those of you saying no, it definitely is a mistake there is no backlit on the entry-level. YES THERE IS. It has been confirmed, the site is not messed up. yesterday there was cofusion between the reps but if you talked to them anytime past 9 last night you would know that it does indeed have it. say what you know. and yes, i have spoken with them, multiple reps actually.
besides, if that is a deal breaker for you then your crazy, imo.

How bout you people saying that 2.0 does have it, YOU GUYS ARE PISSING ME OFF :eek:

lol. well not really but i'm getting extremely annoyed.

There is picture proof in the other thread, the one where a MR member posted pics of Apple staff replacing MacBooks on the floor, and he clearly took a picture of a 2.0GHz model, and you can tell that it does NOT have backlit keys by the keyboard... F5 and F6 do not have the backlight dimmer function.

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Hi all,

I HAVE the base Aluminium MacBook in the UK and it does NOT have keypad backlight. This was also confirmed on the UK website.

Unless it changes from country to country, the base model is not backlit.
 
Hi all,

I HAVE the base Aluminium MacBook in the UK and it does NOT have keypad backlight. This was also confirmed on the UK website.

Unless it changes from country to country, the base model is not backlit.

Thank you..
 
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