Ballmer laughs at iPhone

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Blurg, Jan 18, 2007.

  1. Blurg Guest

    May 3, 2005
  2. pknz macrumors 68020


    Mar 22, 2005
  3. GFLPraxis macrumors 604


    Mar 17, 2004
    What a complete moron. He's scared.

    "Most expensive phone on the market ever"? ...I can name ones on the market right now that cost more. HP has a PocketPC phone w/Cingular 2 year contract with a 3" touch screen, 802.11b, Bluetooth, etc, and 64 MB of storage. $579. Doesn't even compare to the $499 iPhone. And there's a $599 one too.

    On top of that, the question was, what was your first reaction when Steve Jobs showed the iPhone? Ballmer starts making up that he laughed at the price. Guess what, Ballmer? Stevie didn't announce the price till the end of the show. He probably peed his pants before Steve got to the price.
  4. Abstract macrumors Penryn


    Dec 27, 2002
    Location Location Location
    Pfffft, Ballmer had to change his underpants like the rest of us. Then he phoned HQ and told Redmond to "start [their] photocopiers."

    And yes, I can name some phones that are in the same league in terms of price. Too bad they're not in the same league in terms of crack-a-lackin' cool.
  5. Counterfit macrumors G3


    Aug 20, 2003
    sitting on your shoulder
    Steve Ballmer (MS CEO) can't say anything good about any company other than Microsoft. Contrast him to Phil Schiller (Apple's head of marketing) who speaks only of Apple (and only with praise of course, he's the head of marketing).
    One has class, even if you know he stretches things sometimes.
    The other jumps around on a stage screaming, and starts having convulsions in support of programmers.
  6. bozigle macrumors regular

    true, true... direct competitors such as Nokia provided plenty of cool stuff such as video and video editing build in the phone... N-Serie. they do provide mp3/phone or internet/phone... and they are definitly in the same price range.
    Now talking about the market share i don't think those high end phone make a huge part in the total volume sale.
    I think the worst part of this fight is that those companies have to fight against a product that is only to be public in 5 months (10/11 for Europe).

    MS don't have to worry too much about that iPhone, they won't be in the same league... in Finland we don't even find those MS phone around...


    note: MS phone are availabe here...but you really have to look to find them... wonder why
  7. Sirin macrumors member


    Mar 17, 2006
    Ballmer laughs at iPhone

    "It doesn't appeal to business customers because it doesn't have a keyboard, which makes it not a very good email machine."

    "Right now, we're selling millions and millions and millions of phones a year, Apple is selling zero phones a year."
  8. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus


    Jan 9, 2004
    Grand Rapids, MI, USA
    I wouldn't completely dismiss most of what he says. Realistically, his point is going to be a valid challenge for Apple, at least in the sense that they're selling a device that's in a traditionally "large business / IT managed" price point stratosphere, and that market *is* very conservative. I think Apple's gambit is that their feature set is going to be strong enough and easy enough to use that consumers will buy this phone at this price. But that's a question that has to be market tested. And MS has a valid point in that they have had substantial success with WM5 on phones.

    With respect to the Zune comments... 20-25% of the >$249 market... has anyone substantiated that claim? I've personally yet to see someone carrying around a Zune, although I don't live in the largest Metropolis in the universe... :(
  9. MacBoobsPro macrumors 603


    Jan 10, 2006
    Why is Steve Ballmer always hyper?

    My bet is hes not getting it at home.
  10. bartelby macrumors Core


    Jun 16, 2004
    It's the M$ loyalty drugs he's given...
  11. SMM macrumors 65816


    Sep 22, 2006
    Tiger Mountain - WA State
    Steve has to laugh - he does not have any more hair to pull out.
  12. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

    Jul 4, 2004

    I don't see it that way at all. This is a product that surely will be strongly marketed to media types and tecchy types associated with the business of fashion, design, music, film, TV, web etc. Much better marketing potential there — must-have accessories in Vanity Fair etc.
  13. MacBoobsPro macrumors 603


    Jan 10, 2006
    Yeh I dont see the PC Guy with an iPhone. Its going to be more creative peeps.
  14. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus


    Jan 9, 2004
    Grand Rapids, MI, USA
    I'm sorry, BV... when I said big business... what I had in my mind was Fortune 100 types of companies. That's my perspective issue, since I've never worked in larger "creative" companies. :eek: You're certainly right about the types of businesses you're thinking of, I think. What I meant is that Walmart, GE, Ford, VW, etc, who adopted things like the BlackBerry and Treo in droves, may be a little bit conservative in adopting something like the Apple product.

    But in the entertainment / art industries, most definitely....
  15. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

    Jul 4, 2004

    This is how Apple punches above its weight in terms of marketing to the consumer; creating desirable products that will essentially carve out product placements by virtue of who's using them. No fools them. After all, they're clearly going for the home and leisure space. Expect this device to turn up in hundreds of lifestyle supplements, not pushed through the specialist technical press.
  16. Musubi macrumors member


    Oct 27, 2006
    U.S. / 東京 日本
    Now he does... :D

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  17. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus


    Jan 9, 2004
    Grand Rapids, MI, USA
    Oh, I think so too. I think Apple will do very well with this. And I'm already lusting after one... :eek:
  18. boss1 macrumors 6502a


    Jan 8, 2007
    Dismissing most of what was said. He's with MS both physically and financially. His opinions mean as much as the the used car salesman touting the performance of a 1989 V4 lemon in the lot.

    I find it ridiculous how a lot of individuals and news sites with reviews of the iPhone have already made up their minds that typing on the iPhone QWERTY keyboard is far worst than those phones with tactile keyboards; and they haven't even touched the phone!

    I do notice however that seems to be the targeting point of every major competitor that has commented on the iPhone; the keyboard. It seems most of them have picked their technical and marketing battleground so to speak (the iPhone keyboard).

    I hope Apple puts additional attention and resources into making sure the keyboard works remarkably well for this reason.
  19. Chundles macrumors G4


    Jul 4, 2005
    Good. I'm really glad he's laughing at the iPhone.

    Things he's also dismissed:

    - The iPod/iTunes
    - Google
    - Open Source Software

    Getting a pattern here? :D

    The man's a bloody class-less gorilla with no real clue.
  20. Swarmlord macrumors 6502a


    Sep 18, 2006
    Oh, so you've seen the "monkey boy" video from a few years back with him bounding all over the stage screaming too! Lol.

    I guess he won't mind us chuckling a bit when Vista and Office sales aren't exactly the cash cows he think they will be. Where I live the statewide medical center, the university system and both major insurance companies here have an official "wait and see" attitude towards both products after the new Internet Exploder release screwed up our SAP and Internet based applications.
  21. clevin macrumors G3


    Aug 6, 2006
    why would he be scared? M$ doesn't make smartphone, does it?

    as your $579 HP PDA-phone? I didn't see them on cingular's website, actually, the most expensive smartphone i found at is $399? do u have a link?

    finally, first impression really doesn't matter when come to make a payment.

    edit, oh yeah, I found ur $579 HP smartphone on hp's website, altho it has build-in GPS and play WMV, i would think they will lower the price soon. thats the beauty of competition.
  22. scan macrumors 6502

    Oct 24, 2005
    wowowow. Does this guy truly believe the words that comes out of his mouth? 20-25% market share with the Zune?! Can someone please tell me if anyone they know or seen own one of these things? I'm not trying to be an Apple fanatic but I, seriously, haven't seen or know of anyone that has one.
  23. clevin macrumors G3


    Aug 6, 2006
    are we again switching topic to zune?
  24. AvSRoCkCO1067 macrumors 65816


    Sep 6, 2005
    It looks like, for the last quarter, Zune had 10.2% share of the HARD DRIVE market - not of the OVERALL market, and ONLY during this quarter (so this statistic doesn't include iPods sold before October...)
  25. uNext macrumors 6502

    Aug 21, 2006
    My conclusion after reading this post.

    Many people completely disregard the valid points this freak of nature desploys. Some of you focused so much on the fact that he was spewing negative slurs towards the iPhone, that i am starting to believe apples future consist of having a bunch of immature individuals that lack the ability to
    put fact and like in a separate dpt.

    Fact-the iPhone lacks many important features.
    Like-no matter what people will LIKE the iPhone because is cool completely disregarding its abilitys.

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