I think he probably meant that the Zune has a 20% market share of all music players priced at $249.
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I think he probably meant that the Zune has a 20% market share of all music players priced at $249.
he's terrified. "microsoft sells millions of phones and apple sells none." apple isn't even in the market yet. try to think of a better defensive come back ballmer.
What I am really wondering is why this guy doesn't seem to be self confident at all. At least I get this impression from Ballmer how he is reacting on the questions. I think this is a little bit strange because he is leading the biggest Software company in the world and he could be much more self confident about himself and the company he is working for.
Depends on who uses it. Considering that a lot of people that post in this forum seem to be willing to buy an iPhone just because of its Apple logo, no matter whether important features are lacking (replacable battery, for example) or not, I guess the iPhone is definitely a phone that's smarter than some of its users... at least I haven't met any Windows Mobile users that bought their phone for the sole reason that it shows a Microsoft logo on startup...
Hard to be credible complaining about a $500 phone when you're wearing such an overpriced shirt.
This is how Apple survives the business world mediocrity that Microsoft represents and feeds on.
Microsoft is used because it's the safest choice. It's not the best, but it doesn't have to be because the fear-driven operatives in most businesses will stick with it.
Microsoft sucks from the teat of business ignorance and cowardice, and it's a feast.
Apple since the Macintosh has always represented boldness. They drag the market kicking and screaming into areas it's not yet ready for too pricey, too new, too niche.
They don't give business the products it wants, and they don't deliver the products their user base demands.
Apple will give you the product you need at a price that makes them enough money. Then we will complain because it's not what we asked for and it costs too much. Then we will buy it (because we do need it) and love it and wonder how it could ever have not been thus.
This is the Macintosh Way, and it's why the iPhone is ****ing genius no matter the price.
Businesses don't need to buy the iPhone. It's not for them anyway. They'll do what they usually do and choose something safe and cheap and well known that's less functional, ugly, non-intuitive and will need to be replaced in a year. Because no one ever gets fired for being boring and doing what everyone else is doing. The herd protects them.
We will buy it because we take risks to get our hands on greatness. We leave the safety of the group, we ignore caution and strive for better stuff.
We don't settle for boring, ugly, sloppy interfaces and throwaway commodity technology.
We will buy the iPhone. Because it's more than just another phone, and we know it, and we need that.
Microsoft is used because it's the safest choice. It's not the best, but it doesn't have to be because the fear-driven operatives in most businesses will stick with it.
Microsoft sucks from the teat of business ignorance and cowardice, and it's a feast.
Apple since the Macintosh has always represented boldness. They drag the market kicking and screaming into areas it's not yet ready for too pricey, too new, too niche.
They don't give business the products it wants, and they don't deliver the products their user base demands.
Apple will give you the product you need at a price that makes them enough money. Then we will complain because it's not what we asked for and it costs too much. Then we will buy it (because we do need it) and love it and wonder how it could ever have not been thus.
This is the Macintosh Way, and it's why the iPhone is ****ing genius no matter the price.
Businesses don't need to buy the iPhone. It's not for them anyway. They'll do what they usually do and choose something safe and cheap and well known that's less functional, ugly, non-intuitive and will need to be replaced in a year. Because no one ever gets fired for being boring and doing what everyone else is doing. The herd protects them.
We will buy it because we take risks to get our hands on greatness. We leave the safety of the group, we ignore caution and strive for better stuff.
We don't settle for boring, ugly, sloppy interfaces and throwaway commodity technology.
We will buy the iPhone. Because it's more than just another phone, and we know it, and we need that.
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This guy is such a tit. I worked in the snowboard industry, as a product designer.
I was privy to some crazy demographic info, and as I worked in a Intl capacity it is very eye opening. Blew my mind kind of.
Apple is slowly laying a foundation of being a lifestyle product that will have people migrating generationally into their hardware, and software. As Apple goes more toward a digital convergence (Wait- kind of like what Gates said a couple years ago at CES???! But never produced). Jobs beat him too it, with the 'iTV' module showed in 06.
This generation that is sopping up iPods etc... will also make it to the workplace. And just like me I was afforded a choice. I have money. I had expenditure budgets for computers. I also have a free mind, and everytime I end up Mac.
Apple might never own the world of spreadsheets... but that is why I have to cough up money to spend on ****** M$ Office, which does work very well. You could just see how hard he hates Apple... funny stuff.
With respect to the Zune comments... 20-25% of the >$249 market... has anyone substantiated that claim? I've personally yet to see someone carrying around a Zune, although I don't live in the largest Metropolis in the universe...
Absolutely untrue. Nobody is willing to pay $249 or more for a Zune. On Amazon, its price is hidden until you specifically request it - according to Amazon that's what companies do when they don't want to make it obvious that their product can't be sold at full price.
He's probably mad that no apps will be made by 3rd party developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers...
Ah Jesus, I don't expect to stumble across comedy gold in a fairly dour thread like this.
Bwahahahaha!
No, it's what companies do when they don't want anyone advertising a price lower than the "MAP" (minimum advertised price), which is usually very close to MSRP. Apple does this too.
$500 is not expensive, but airtime is.
Why do people keep saying the iPhone is expensive? $500 is not a big deal. The "Big Deal" is when you sign a two year contract to pay $50 a month. That contract costs you $1,200. I think people with these kinds of phone already pay more than $50/month.
Cingular is getting far more cash out of the iPhone than Apple.
Why do people keep saying the iPhone is expensive? $500 is not a big deal. The "Big Deal" is when you sign a two year contract to pay $50 a month. That contract costs you $1,200. I think people with these kinds of phone already pay more than $50/month.
Cingular is getting far more cash out of the iPhone than Apple.
Ah Jesus, I don't expect to stumble across comedy gold in a fairly dour thread like this.
Bwahahahaha!
Shouldn't you be buying some boring, ugly Dells for something?
http://macnewsworld.com/story/A0Pueh663FlKC6/LGs-New-Prada-Phone---Not-an-iPhone.xhtml
LG's new phone, priced at 600 euros (US$777), is scheduled to go on sale in late February in Britain, France, Germany and Italy. Then it will be sold in Asia. No mention was made of plans for a United States rollout.
I also read today that the iphone have at least a 50% profit on them and that they should lower the price AFTER they first come out.
So I wouldn't rush out and be the first one to buy one. It said they might be able to lower the price to just under $300.00
Wow, just like his shoutin' presentation video, he's sweating like a pig. Except this time the camera guy realized this and kept it a continuous face shot.
He's scared, you can sense it.
He talks about how the iPhone is overpriced, than goes to say how the Zune is priced at the higher end of the market, but they expect it to do well. Smart.
I also love the way he constantly overuses the word 'innovation'.
He's scared, you can sense it.
He talks about how the iPhone is overpriced, than goes to say how the Zune is priced at the higher end of the market, but they expect it to do well. Smart.
I also love the way he constantly overuses the word 'innovation'.
hmm is the iphone gonna fail?? when was there ever this much hype about a cell phone(/computer/ipod) o and i already know about 10 people who are going to get one