Ballmer laughs at iPhone

My conclusion after reading this post.

Many people completely disregard the valid points this freak of nature desploys. Some of you focused so much on the fact that he was spewing negative slurs towards the iPhone, that i am starting to believe apples future consist of having a bunch of immature individuals that lack the ability to
put fact and like in a separate dpt.

Fact-the iPhone lacks many important features.
Like-no matter what people will LIKE the iPhone because is cool completely disregarding its abilitys.

O.k have you been looking pass how cool this phone is?

Have you been reading the all the missing features this phone will have and for the price their asking for?

the lack of 3rd party support is not major to you?

charge 600 bucks + for a phone that have a camera but no video recording feature? My slvr have this feature for christ sake.

If they are going to claim all in one why not actually make it that.

Make me buy a phone where if i pay premium i want all the features that are on the market. If you are going to claimn "the only device you need" make it to where it is the only device i need-photos,music & videos are a nice but really is it tha timportant on a phone? whatever happened t other cell phone features? why dont they reinvent features instead of claiming innovation and is a complete knockoff of another product.

To the extent that I can discern whatever it is you mean, I disagree with you.

My impression has been that the majority of MR users responded to the claims that Ballmer made. For example, some responded to his claim that the iPhone is, or will be, the most expensive phone on the market. Others responded to his claim that it will not appeal to business customers because it lacks a keyboard. Others responded to his claims about Zune’s market share.

This all seems like a fair and mature discussion to me.

What’s strange is that, as best I can recall, Ballmer did not remind us that the iPhone lacks important features, which you suggest is a fact. And it seems like almost nobody responded, or attempted to refute, that point, probably because it wasn’t made. In any case, it seems MR regulars would know just as much as anyone about the limitations of the iPhone, which they’ve discussed in post after post.

I’m also not sure what you mean when you say “because is cool completely disregarding its abilitys.” If you intended to criticize MR users I think you meant to say because you think the iPhone is cool you disregard its lack of features or functionality. But even if you’d said that it wouldn’t seem true. The majority of posts that I’ve read on MR are of those who are simultaneously aware of its coolness, who know as well as anyone else about its limitations, and who are assessing whether they would like to have one, all things considered, for the price.

I also don’t think it’s fair to point to a single feature that your SLVR has that the iPhone won't. I’m sure there is functionality that the iPhone will have that your SLVR doesn’t.

I’m also not sure that Apple (whom you call they) said that it’s all in one. My impression from their marketing was that it’s three devices in one: a widescreen iPod, a revolutionary phone, and a breakthrough Internet device.

I also feel that you don’t get it when you demand that Apple give you a phone with all of the features on the market. Do you really feel it's possible, from a hardware standpoint, to make such a device? And who is it that defines what all of these features are? And why would you want all of them in one device if it made the device overly complicated? And would such a device actually make any sense in terms of something that’s being sold? If there are no other devices that have the functionality the iPhone will have as we know of it now, why should Apple go further to make one that has everything? What if everything, in their estimates, means too much cost in production for not enough demand? Sounds like something a profit making enterprise would not want to make.

I’ve generally had no interest in criticizing other’s for the esthetics of their posts. I’ve assumed that my posts are no better than any one else’s in that way. After all, MR seems like a rather casual discussion, like we were all just talking to each other in person. But your posts repeatedly possess an overall level of shabbiness that is greater than those of most other users. It’s as if you couldn’t be bothered to check anything you say for spelling and grammar.

Without being anymore punctilious and inflammatory than I already have, here are a few examples: fragment “My conclusion after reading this post.”; spelling “tha timportant” “christ sake” “claimn” “desploys” “abilitys” “O.k” “price their asking for” “t other cell phone” “why dont they reinvent”; capitalization “the lack of 3rd party” “if i pay premium i want” “only device i need” “whatever happened.” You get the idea and I haven’t begun hightling the points at which your saying things differently would have made it easier for anyone reading them to know what it is you wanted them to know.
 
I hate to say this but I personally want the MS Windows Mobile Smartphone device myself much more than the iPhone. And many ppl outside of the IT Office - end users/consumers - outside of the US as well.

> WM PPC-PE/SMartphone devices are picking up great traction in Europe with providers like Vodafone, Orange, o2 etc. Not because of Microsoft themselves but because of their smarphone saviour HTC! They've even stole some market share from Symbian - even with SE's UIQ3 based devices & Nokia's S60.

I still think the iPhone is incredible and I KNEW it would resemble a prototype for Synaptics MANY MANY months ago - I posted it here on Macrumors first I believe. Wondering if technology patents will have issues between the two though.

I DO think that Office 2008 will have a HUGE cash cow impact for MS BOTH on Windows XP/Vista & Mac OS X. If you haven't used it yet, you'll be amazed by far the best Office Suite ever.

Vista ... nah they'll be a loss for another 2 years unless Mac Intel product users begin purchasing licenses.
 
I DO think that Office 2008 will have a HUGE cash cow impact for MS BOTH on Windows XP/Vista & Mac OS X. If you haven't used it yet, you'll be amazed by far the best Office Suite ever.

Vista ... nah they'll be a loss for another 2 years unless Mac Intel product users begin purchasing licenses.

I've read plenty of articles which reckon Microsoft will have big problems selling Office and Vista in the volumes they want.

Office could do 99% of what 99% of people wanted a few versions ago. My copy of Office 2000 still does everything I want and more, never seen anything else to make upgrading worth the money - though I switched to Open Office some time ago. Add the two together (lack of must have features and Open Office) and sales are never going to be what they were for previous versions.

Vista will have similar problems - XP is very stable and again does pretty much everything you want. So why upgrade? This is especially the case for the big corporate users, most of whom are unlikely to upgrade any time soon.

Obviously they will still sell lots of copies of both, but its getting harder and harder for them all the time.
 
wowowow. Does this guy truly believe the words that comes out of his mouth? 20-25% market share with the Zune?! Can someone please tell me if anyone they know or seen own one of these things? I'm not trying to be an Apple fanatic but I, seriously, haven't seen or know of anyone that has one.

I went to Autosport International show last week (worlds biggest motorsport show) and there was a stand there by Stuff which is one of the biggest "gadget" mags in the UK. They have 3x PS3s for you to play with and loads of gadgets on display.

I went over and noticed a brown zune in the case, took one look and smiled. The misses took one look and went "it looks like a piece of sh*t!" at which point the three fellas behind the counter burst out laughing and they started showing, "who wants a zune, £2.50???? Buy anything and we'll give you a Zune!"

Obviously I wasn't the only one that knew about this because a LOT of people started laughing as well :D
 
hes so stupid. he was in a meating and he cept shouting microsoft. hes sad 2 operations on his vocal cords. i will be laughting when M$ is bankrupt and he dosent have a job. haha
 
I went over and noticed a brown zune in the case, took one look and smiled. The misses took one look and went "it looks like a piece of sh*t!" at which point the three fellas behind the counter burst out laughing and they started showing, "who wants a zune, £2.50???? Buy anything and we'll give you a Zune!"

:D Priceless!!
 
I don't see it that way at all. This is a product that surely will be strongly marketed to media types and tecchy types associated with the business of fashion, design, music, film, TV, web etc. Much better marketing potential there — must-have accessories in Vanity Fair etc.

I totally agree, and I would extend the appeal of the iPhone further to those who don't think twice about spending say $250 for a pair of jeans. People who appreciate aesthestics and style will find the iPhone appealing.

I think they should up the price of the iPhone say $750 and $850 respectively. The cellphone is the new designer watch! It is the new fashion and status symbol.

Why would you want to market the iPhone to middle age businessmen with receding hairlines and who wears tapered khakis pants with belt that desparately tries to support their expanding waistline?:D

Cinch
 
I laugh whenever I hear that man say the words "ninety nine dollars"...

"what's the expression, let's see how the competition goes" last time i checked, that's not exactly a common expression
 
A removable battery like 95% of cellphone in the market have and 3G(more important to a business user or a person who uses the net alot).

I never remove the battery from my phone, but i like to know that i can. 3G is a must really, in the UK i get pretty much full 3G coverage almost everywhere i go. I video call my friends in Birmingham, my girlfriend in Bath.

It needs a camera on the front and a better * camera on the back.

I havnet tried the 2Mp camera on the iPhone but my 3.2MP on my K800i is the best camera i have seen on any of my friends phones.

One Major feature that has made me not buy a phone is the lack of a Torch function, use it all the time.
 
steve balmer gets pwn3d

How did this guy get to be a CEO? "Not a very good email machine." I guess he's used one so he knows all about it :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5oGaZIKYvo&embed=1
he is really is crazy. check out these youtube links.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW8tf2_SQAs
this is pretty funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q42D_qVLUA
also this is a good story of what happened between microsoft and apple.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im589uTchKs&mode=related&search=
steve balmer dance remix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_AP3SGMxxM&NR
vista crapping out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y_Jp6PxsSQ
trust me, there all awesome.
 
hes so stupid. he was in a meating and he cept shouting microsoft. hes sad 2 operations on his vocal cords. i will be laughting when M$ is bankrupt and he dosent have a job. haha

Unfortunately, too late for that. The guy could quit tomorrow and live like a king without working another day in his life. He's there for his ego and for the control, not for the money.
 
Ballmer's only trying to get revenger at when we all laughed at his Zune.

We'll all laugh again when the Zune phone comes out. :D
 
A couple of days before the Iphone 5s is shown, I'm sorry but I must bump this 6 year topic.

Right now, I currently like android better (Although the ipad/iphones designs are still better, but ios is aging at this point). With that said, I owned the 3g, 4, and 4s.

So, how correct was Ballmer?

1. Businesses won't buy the iphone because it doesn't have a keyboard.
2. The iphone is not a very good email machine.
3. Ballmer would rather have their 50-60% market share.
4. Iphone won't gain any real market share.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U
 
A couple of days before the Iphone 5s is shown, I'm sorry but I must bump this 6 year topic.

Right now, I currently like android better (Although the ipad/iphones designs are still better, but ios is aging at this point). With that said, I owned the 3g, 4, and 4s.

So, how correct was Ballmer?

1. Businesses won't buy the iphone because it doesn't have a keyboard.
2. The iphone is not a very good email machine.
3. Ballmer would rather have their 50-60% market share.
4. Iphone won't gain any real market share.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U

1. The iPhone 5S will not be shown in a few days.
2. Please don't bump really old threads!
 
I read 50% of this thread without looking at the date. That was about the time I said, what the hell are these people talking about?!?
 
A couple of days before the Iphone 5s is shown, I'm sorry but I must bump this 6 year topic.

Right now, I currently like android better (Although the ipad/iphones designs are still better, but ios is aging at this point). With that said, I owned the 3g, 4, and 4s.

So, how correct was Ballmer?

1. Businesses won't buy the iphone because it doesn't have a keyboard.
2. The iphone is not a very good email machine.
3. Ballmer would rather have their 50-60% market share.
4. Iphone won't gain any real market share.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U

1) Wrong. Most popular phones for business.
2) Wrong.
3) Sucks for him because he has <1% of the market
4) So, so wrong.
 
A couple of days before the Iphone 5s is shown, I'm sorry but I must bump this 6 year topic.

Right now, I currently like android better (Although the ipad/iphones designs are still better, but ios is aging at this point). With that said, I owned the 3g, 4, and 4s.

So, how correct was Ballmer?

1. Businesses won't buy the iphone because it doesn't have a keyboard.
2. The iphone is not a very good email machine.
3. Ballmer would rather have their 50-60% market share.
4. Iphone won't gain any real market share.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U

Haha the one week I attempted to use android it was by far the most useless email system for someone like me who is always on top of emails and messages

Didn't even get emails right away, tons of times they were delayed

Never had that issue with iPhone
 
but I must bump this 6 year topic.


Why must you?

What else is the CEO of a competitor is gonna say?


1. Old, 5 years news.

2. Is anyone surprised Ballmer would say that? The competitors say a lot of things. Are you going to resuscitate every iPhone-killer thread?

COMEON, GIVE US SOMETHING FRESH.
 
Haha the one week I attempted to use android it was by far the most useless email system for someone like me who is always on top of emails and messages

Didn't even get emails right away, tons of times they were delayed

Never had that issue with iPhone

Really? Who do you use as your email provider. I find emails updating virtually in tandem on android, iOS, and windows phone. But all I use for email is my gmail account.

I do find, on basically all platforms, that the built in email apps all leave (different) things to be desired. Luckily we have the ability to download better. :)
 
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