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While nifty to have, that 3D Touch component takes up a ton of space. I wonder how many people will change their tunes if Apple were to replace the 3D Touch motor with more battery?

Exactly! 3D Touch Taptic Engine component is precisely why the battery capacity dropped from 1810mAh on the iPhone 6 to 1715mAh on the 6s. Because lower battery capacity is what Apple customers were all asking for!

As an aside, I just picked up a $150 Xiaomi Redmi 5 plus. Wow this thing has a 4000 mAh battery and can go 2 full days without charging. Incredible value for money.
 
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Exactly! 3D Touch Taptic Engine component is precisely why the battery capacity dropped from 1810mAh on the iPhone 6 to 1715mAh on the 6s. Because lower battery capacity is what Apple customers were all asking for!

As an aside, I just picked up a $150 Xiaomi Redmi 5 plus. Wow this thing has a 4000 mAh battery and can go 2 full days without charging. Incredible value for money.

The new Samsung also has 4000 mAh. I have to carry my iPhones in battery cases, because I actually use the phones!
 
The new Samsung also has 4000 mAh. I have to carry my iPhones in battery cases, because I actually use the phones!
Yeah but Redmi Note 5 is a midrange phone so it should have decently better battery life than the Note 9.

I was at a music festival last month and I noticed something funny. A lot of girls had their iphone in one of their back pockets and a battery pack in the other.
 
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3d touch is the best thing with iphones, use it several times every time i ise the phone. Mega fail if they remove it, worse than removing headphone jack
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I’m shocked how many people use it. I never bothered and no one I know uses it either. Maybe it’s the fact it was very limited in its first implementation and I kind of gave up on it.

Maybe I’ll have to try it again.

You can move the cursor when writing text with 3d touch. Try it once and you never want be without it. So easy to go back if you for example made a typo that you want to correct
 
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You can move the cursor when writing text with 3d touch. Try it once and you never want be without it. So easy to go back if you for example made a typo that you want to correct
I confess this benefit had me a little confused as my wife's SE didn't have 3D touch. So I watched a YouTube demo.

If I am typing with my Lenovo P2 and notice an error such as misspelled word, I just touch the word with a long press and it is selected. I can then just type over with the correct spelling. Then I continue typing. All very quick.
Edit: and effortless :)
 
First failed feature introduced by TC. Now, the stack will pop one after the other after few years of pushing.
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While I’m a frequent user of 3dtouch myself, what you’ve just presented is a ribbon-wrapped example of the sunk-cost fallacy.

If people aren’t using it or it’s not a compelling feature, there’s not much point in Apple spending even more money to put it in even more phones. Learn when to talk away.

That said, I hope they don’t bin it, I find it very useful and have the muscle memory for it.

Apple probably has all the records of all users across geography on usages of various features in iPhones.

They have data, how many (in % of course) are using a feature and functionality and how frequently and how useful they feel!

If Apple removes this feature they probably do it based on some of these.

But typical Apple does not remove such prominent functionality without getting into controversies (Touch ID for example)
 
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For all those saying long-press is just as good — yeah, and a secondary (right) mouse click could be done with a Control-click. Isn't it nice to have options?
 
Apple will not remove 3D Touch. First you spend years developing the technology and the software. Then you keep on adding it to many more devices than the Apple Watch (macbook, Magic Trackpad, iPhone). Then you slowly with updates add more features. To then out of nowhere remove it. Well spent money and time
Hmm, sounds like TouchID. Wait...
 
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3D touch is extremely underutilized. I feel like its Firewire in the age of USB 1.

I use it intuitively especially to lookup link before clicking them or moving cursor around.
 
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You actually described perfectly the life cycle of every tech ever released.

You usually replace it with something else in those cases. Or if the tech is a major fail (not something Apple usually does). Does not apply to 3D Touch.

Hmm, sounds like TouchID. Wait...

As I mention above. Apple replaced one biometric security with another. They didn’t remove Touch ID and left everyone with passcode as the only option.
 
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Fixed that for you ;)
it is not intuitive. you have to guess where and when you have 3d touch controls.
apple must know this. apple hates everything that you need to learn to do. everything must be intuitive.
nobody uses it because you never know when and where it is available.
 
it is not intuitive. you have to guess where and when you have 3d touch controls.
apple must know this. apple hates everything that you need to learn to do. everything must be intuitive.
nobody uses it because you never know when and where it is available.

Most apps use it the same way apple has implemented it. So when you realize you have a device with 3D Touch you pretty much 'get' the logic. I don't think the solution as some people have suggested with some sort of indicator is the way to go. There is no indicator on a computer where to right click, you just now after you've used it for a while.
 
it is not intuitive. you have to guess where and when you have 3d touch controls.
apple must know this. apple hates everything that you need to learn to do. everything must be intuitive.
nobody uses it because you never know when and where it is available.

No you just can’t use it, going by the comments here is proof enough you are wrong. All you have to do is press hard on an icon to see what it does. It’s not difficult.
 
No you just can’t use it, going by the comments here is proof enough you are wrong. All you have to do is press hard on an icon to see what it does. It’s not difficult.
Pressing on an icon to "see what it does" , doesn't come across as a polished high end OS :)
That's what people used to do with a pirated version of Cubase.
 
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Would be so pissed if they ex’d the the 3D touch on the keyboard to move the cursor around. And delayed Airpods? Seriously?
 
.....because you learned it.

Before knowing it was a function, you would never guess it exists.

The same exact principle applies to 3D Touch.
Like any feature. Explained in the manual. I was imagining the op being responsible for the Force Touch section of the iPhone manual. "Just press things and see if snything happens" :)
 
Would be so pissed if they ex’d the the 3D touch on the keyboard to move the cursor around. And delayed Airpods? Seriously?
Force Touch is clearly a clever utility. With a virtual instrument giving pressure sensitive control of modulation etc. However I must be misunderstanding Force Touch to move the cursor to edit text errors etc. Can't try it out on my wife's SE obviously. A YouTube video seemed to show that one presses firmly on the keyboard. This then means one can move the cursor by moving one's finger on the screen like on a trackpad to position the cursor appropriately.
Why not just touch the screen directly at the point one wants the cursor positioned? This instance seems like a solution looking for a problem to solve.
 
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