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They dropped the headphone jack... why not the charger? Next up, the clock on the lock screen :) (edit: you own a watch, or should, so you have no need to look at your phone for the time any more)
 
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I’m starting to second guess AirPods. Worked great for some time. Then in the last 2 weeks they don’t connect to my phone. I’ve had tons of issues. I’ve reset and re-paired them multiple times.
 
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I thought US federal law *mandates* the inclusion of a hands-free piece with all handsets sold in the country. I could have sworn I read this many years ago, but now I'm having a hard time finding where I read that.
The Pixel ships without headphones. Likely other Android phones as well.

Honestly, that would be a really weird law. What would a law like that intend to accomplish other than ensuring lots of cheap headphones are made?
 
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I’m starting to second guess AirPods. Worked great for some time. Then in the last 2 weeks they don’t connect to my phone. I’ve had tons of issues. I’ve reset and re-paired them multiple times.

Oddly enough, I’m experiencing this same thing the last two weeks (gen 2 w/ wireless case). I figured it’s because I was using them a lot more often for calls lately. But interesting it’s not just me the last two weeks.
 
That's nothing compared to the cutbacks on the iPhone 13!

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Honestly, not including all these accessories in the box and having them as optional extras sounds like a win to me. Most people have chargers and headphones already, filling every box with e-waste is not a responsible move.

I get that people will perceive it as Apple trying to double-dip on sales, but if they price things just right and explain that the cost hasn't actually gone up, they could frame it as a win (i.e. only pay for what you need, if you have a charger and earphones then you can save $20 or whatever they cost).

Except Apple being Apple, the accessories are rarely particularly cheap. Even the little headphone jack dongle costs 10 euros and that is a flimsy piece of crap.

Current iPhone 11 Pro is 1179€ for 64 GB model in my country. They could market that the iPhone 12 Pro phone is now say "starting from 1120€" and then as you choose options you start to get things like "+ Apple Pro Charger 39€", "+ Apple Lightning Cable 20€" and "+ Apple headphone adapter 10€" and then you are back at the original price and left feeling you have are forced to buy all these things just to use your phone normally.

At least personally I either give my old phone to either a relative, my girlfriend or sell it on the used market, including box and accessory bundle.
 
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There are plenty of companies that don't include the USB charge brick. They will for sure include a cable (hopefully USB-C to USB-C?Lightning? like they do with the AirPods Pro). I can see them completely removing the charge brick and the EarPods. It'll save a ton of space in packaging which will make it cheaper for them to ship from China.

Let's just hope they make the charge bricks cheap, like $10 so people aren't forced to by the generic crap out there.
 
Except Apple being Apple, the accessories are rarely particularly cheap. Even the little headphone jack dongle costs 10 euros and that is a flimsy piece of crap.

Current iPhone 11 Pro is 1179€ for 64 GB model in my country. They could market that the iPhone 12 Pro phone is now say "starting from 1120€" and then as you choose options you start to get things like "+ Apple Pro Charger 39€", "+ Apple Lightning Cable 20€" and "+ Apple headphone adapter 10€" and then you are back at the original price and left feeling you have are forced to buy all these things just to use your phone normally.

At least personally I either give my old phone to either a relative, my girlfriend or sell it on the used market, including box and accessory bundle.

I don't follow your logic. Going with your pricing, you're apparently happy to pay €1189 for a bundle, but paying €1189 in smaller increments (1120+39+20+10) is somehow unacceptable to you?

In the solution I'm proposing, you could still buy the full bundle for the same price, you'd just have the option to not to buy whatever extras you don't need.
 
Including airpods with Pro models would be so weird. Most likely they would bundle the low end ones, but if you are spending $1200 on a phone, chances are you will spend the extra money to get the higher end headphones.

i'm sorry, did you mean earpods? if so, what's weird about that - they've always done that. if you meant to say airpods, your comment is based on an assumption about who will buy what, no?..
 
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Maybe it can ship with the AirPower Mini that some leakers were talking about.
 
Honestly, not including all these accessories in the box and having them as optional extras sounds like a win to me. Most people have chargers and headphones already, filling every box with e-waste is not a responsible move.

I get that people will perceive it as Apple trying to double-dip on sales, but if they price things just right and explain that the cost hasn't actually gone up, they could frame it as a win (i.e. only pay for what you need, if you have a charger and earphones then you can save $20 or whatever they cost).

heck.

when I buy one just ask me if want a charger. One time free w purchase. Default to no.
 
This is highly doubtful but does raise an interesting question... When the port is finally (inevitably) removed, will the phone ship with a wireless charger?
 
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heck.

when I buy one just ask me if want a charger. One time free w purchase. Default to no.
I’d be good with that.
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This is highly doubtful but does raise an interesting question... When the port is finally (inevitably) removed, will the phone ship with a wireless charger?
Won’t happen any time soon. On the one hand apple is switching to higher wattage chargers to enable faster charging. If they drop a wired port, then you revert to very very slow charging. The two concepts work in opposite directions.
 
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The Pixel ships without headphones. Likely other Android phones as well.

Honestly, that would be a really weird law. What would a law like that intend to accomplish other than ensuring lots of cheap headphones are made?
I remember reading about a similar law but I can’t remember if it was a certain US state or another country. The law of course was to keep people from holding the phone up to the ear while driving since hands free is the law in some places.
 


Apple is widely expected to release four new iPhone 12 models later this year, and ahead of time, analysts at British bank Barclays have outlined their expectations for the devices based on discussions with multiple Apple suppliers.

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In a research note obtained by MacRumors, the Barclays analysts said that iPhone 12 models will not come with EarPods in the box, in line with a prediction shared by Ming-Chi Kuo last month. Oddly enough, the analysts also heard that iPhone 12 models might not ship with a power adapter of any kind, leaving only a USB-C to Lightning cable in the box.

While there would certainly be environmental benefits to Apple not including a power adapter with the hundreds of millions of iPhones it sells each year, such a move would obviously be inconvenient for customers without a spare USB-C charger. Apple's basic 5W power adapter can be purchased separately for $19, while the 18W power adapter included with iPhone 11 Pro models can be purchased for $29.

Earlier this week, the anonymous Twitter user Mr. White shared photos of a 20W power adapter that he suggested will be included with iPhone 12 models, which clearly contradicts with what Barclays analysts are hearing.

Barclays estimates that mass production of iPhone 12 models is four to six weeks behind schedule compared to a usual year. The analysts believe that Apple will still announce the new lineup in September, but at least some models might not be available to order until October or November, as was the case with the iPhone X and iPhone XR in recent years.

The analysts expect the two higher-end iPhone 12 Pro models to feature a triple-lens camera system with a LiDAR Scanner, first introduced on the iPad Pro. This would pave the way for new augmented reality experiences.

Barclays also said that it has heard about a potential iPad Pro refresh later this year, but it has no further details right now.

Last, the analysts expect third-generation AirPods to launch in early 2021.

Barclays analysts have a mixed track record in relation to Apple rumors. Their accurate predictions have included True Tone coming to the iPhone 8 and iPhone X, the removal of the headphone jack adapter with iPhone XS and iPhone XR models, and the removal of 3D Touch on all iPhone 11 models, while they were incorrect about the iPhone XS possibly having a smaller notch and the base iPhone 11 having 4x4 MIMO.

Article Link: Barclays on iPhone 12 Lineup: No EarPods in Box and Possibly Not Even a Charger, LiDAR Scanner on Pro Models

*** AirPods Pro ship with no charger *** just saying
 
I remember reading about a similar law but I can’t remember if it was a certain US state or another country. The law of course was to keep people from holding the phone up to the ear while driving since hands free is the law in some places.
There are certainly laws against holding phones while driving, and they are at the state level. No federal law requiring that phones ship with the means to avoid that, though. And, in fact, wearing earphones while driving is against the law in many states.
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*** AirPods Pro ship with no charger *** just saying
Because they are designed to work with iphones, which come with a charger that works with AirPods Pro.
 
i'm sorry, did you mean earpods? if so, what's weird about that - they've always done that. if you meant to say airpods, your comment is based on an assumption about who will buy what, no?..

I meant AirPods. For the past year we have had reports that Apple will switch to bundling AirPods with iPhones. Removing EarPods would make sense if they planned to do that. The issue is that Apple sells multiple tiers of AirPods and it's unlikely that the unit they will bundle will align with the unit people want.
 
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