This should be the last time we see this. Jony Ive was still working for Apple when these changes were made.
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This should be the last time we see this. Jony Ive was still working for Apple when these changes were made.
I expect user replaceable ram, ssd, battery and ports (2 x USB-A, 2 x USB-C, HDMI, SD card, ethernet) and good thermal performance.
If Apple genuinely cares about the environment, this is the minimum they would do.
If Apple genuinely cares about the environment, this is the minimum they would do.
I don't care about ultrathin or "ultrabooks".
I see 274 laptop models with RAM slots, M.2, and hard drive already released in 2019.
Sounds like we have a lobbyist for Apple here... Consumers SHOULD have the right to repair and upgrade products they purchase: hard drive, battery, screen, keyboard etc.. Not only do these changes restrict consumers from performing repairs/upgrades to their devices it also limits the usable lifespan of the Mac. Computers shouldn't be treated as they are disposable, especially when you spend over a thousand on one. Am I an elitist for not wanting to spend a few thousand on a new mac versus spending a few hundred on some repairs or upgrades? Shame on me, but hey why stop with computers and smartphones, you should stop by your local auto shop and start your elitist rant to everyone there, since they apparently should just buy a new car instead of repairing or servicing their current vehicle. Cheap Elitist Snobs
Really depends what you want your computer for.
some users do need super ultra-thin because they're on the road a lot. My CEO for example, doesn't need power or performance. But is constantly on the road and the lighter the better.
My work laptop? Is a monsterous 6 core, 64gb, 1tb NVME SSD behemoth with fully replacable modules for every function (lenovo P52)
it's all about who and what the role is.
Specifically soldering in parts only makes them cost less and force the user to throw out and repurchase when needs grow. Soldering in parts that are known to fail, like SSDs and batteries, only benefit the manufacturer if they can get away with it. There is NO reliability improvement if good connectors are used.
Vintage starts at > 5 years mark and clock only starts only after the product has been superseded (or discontinued ).
"...Vintage products are those that have not been manufactured for more than 5 and less than 7 years ago. Apple has discontinued hardware service for vintage products with the following exceptions: "
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624
Vintage is more often about Apple not guaranteeing that there will be parts available. 3rd parties aren't going to be able to do much better as Mac get into the Obsolete zone. 3rd parties may rely on a boneyard of parts but they probably also can't promise that they will have something. ( most 3rd parties still trying to cover at that stage are so small that they won't attract the much in civil suits and the repair agreements (where they have competent lawyers) are going to have substantive 'escape' clauses in them. [ Apple will 'quit' on repair that may be possible, if not immediately practical, but they also spend many 10's of millions on lawyers every year just on covering the supposedly 'limited' area that they do engage on. ]
The 'annoying customer' is only after the warranty period. If it keeps breaking and want 'free' fixes then they may wave off 'free' repairs.
Beyond that, tying such an expensive computer down to such a small SSD is frustrating.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/12...mini-t2-chip-security-repair-replacement-tool
Apple confirms its T2 security chip blocks some third-party repairs of new Macs - The Verge
Tying an expensive machine down to such a small SSD is very limiting. These machines are so non serviceable to the point they will have shorter lifespans than the generations before. Not great for the environment.
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The T2 chip would prevent most people from changing the SSD in any case.
Apple calls it security while many users believe that it's there to prevent user servicing.
That is true.. What a shame.
The repairbility is not just for end user you dope it’s for apple and repair shop as well, what happens when your warranty runs out, apple can’t just replace the ssd or the ram they have to swap everything out and u end up with a $1k plus repair bill
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There are plenty of 3rd party repair shop that can do the soldering and part replacement, take a look at Louis Rossman channel on YouTube
well compared to my personal laptop it's monstrous
But having 4 SODIM slots, 2 NVME drive bays, 3 USB-A, 2 Thunderbolt/USB-C, SD card, Mini-DP and HDMI is a massive bonus with the MX150 GeForce GPU.it's one hell of a computer though. I do a lot of VM building and testing on it before migrating to our production server. I would prefer a 13" device myself, But for work, the power and flexibility of the P52 is unmatched by anything Apple currently has in their lineup.
Not to mention all of that cost the company $1200 CAD. the CHEAPEST Mac Pro 15" STARTS at $3000. Similarly loaded (can't get 64gb on the mac pro) is $4000+
This is exactly the point, instead of giving us 20 models of Mac laptops that are basically the same, provide one model that is larger, heavier, more expensive, and with replaceable parts. In essence a laptop that is a portable workstation and does not have to be thrown away as soon as it runs out of warranty.
Well two scenarios here.
A family member of mine has a 2011 MacBook Pro which is considered obsolete or vintage by Apple. Apple wouldn't replace the dead battery on the laptop. Luckily because the battery is replaceable, I could order in a third party part and replace it.
In 6 years time, If it was one of these laptops with the glued in battery, this wouldn't be possible.
It's also nice to upgrade your primary work machine when Apple don't for 6 to 10 years.
Low repair-ability and zero upgrade-ability in the name of lightness and thinness.
Gotta love these modern Mac laptops
Ignoring the keyboard, high last ability and reliability too
Some years ago I was looking for a quad core 13" laptop and the only one I could find was mySN.
Exactly. Plenty of laptops get second lives as well, when they are refurbished and sold on 2nd and third times. That is just not going to be possible with these models.
The T2 chip would prevent most people from changing the SSD in any case
Apple calls it security while many users believe that it's there to prevent user servicing.
Security for Apple, not the user
No, the blade would simply be a board full of dumb NAND chips as the T2 is the SSD controller for the MacBook Pro.
well compared to my personal laptop it's monstrous
it's one hell of a computer though. I do a lot of VM building and testing on it before migrating to our production server. I would prefer a 13" device myself, But for work, the power and flexibility of the P52 is unmatched by anything Apple currently has in their lineup.
Not to mention all of that cost the company $1200 CAD. the CHEAPEST Mac Pro 15" STARTS at $3000. Similarly loaded (can't get 64gb on the mac pro) is $4000+
P Series are awesome machines, sir.
I'm actually a fan of soldered components for mobile devices. Desktops, no thanks.
However, I completely agree that base storage in a Pro model like this should be at least doubled, and storage upgrades are still too expensive. I'm actually fine with the Air still sporting 128GB though, especially since iCloud 2TB storage tier works extremely well if you don't need super speed, and is a decent value especially in context of family sharing (in my opinion).
It's really dumb that the 12" Macbook started at 256GB years ago but the Pro is still 128GB. Like, what??
However, I completely agree that base storage in a Pro model like this should be at least doubled, and storage upgrades are still too expensive. I'm actually fine with the Air still sporting 128GB though, especially since iCloud 2TB storage tier works extremely well if you don't need super speed, and is a decent value especially in context of family sharing (in my opinion).
It's really dumb that the 12" Macbook started at 256GB years ago but the Pro is still 128GB. Like, what??
I disagree. This is the manifestation of Jobs' vision. SJ advocated "closed" Macs going back to the original Macintosh from 1984.
Plus, legend has it SJ went to the Mac team, threw down an iPad, and asked the Mac team why they couldn't make something similar.
What a crap, surface book offers Face ID and touch display, haha
People wake up, and one of the best keyboards in town
People wake up, and one of the best keyboards in town