The Air can multitask lol. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
It's hilarious how people will grab on to something, anything, no matter how ridiculous it is, and pass that on as fact. For someone else to grab onto. And on, and on, and on.
The Air can multitask lol. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
So you're basically just here to whine about a product you have no intentions on buying.I did buy an HP Pavillion Aero 13, 16/512, less than $750, lighter than the MacBook Air. So yeah. 😆
There is not a publicly traded company on the planet that is going to tell a customer that their lowest cost tier product may not be as good as their higher cost tier product. Your refusal to understand and accept that is naive.
It is the internet version of the telephone game also. One things leads to another to another and before you know it, Apple promised us M2 Ultra abilities in this Air.It's hilarious how people will grab on to something, anything, no matter how ridiculous it is, and pass that on as fact. For someone else to grab onto. And on, and on, and on.
Unless you want the nicer screen, bigger screen, magsafe charging and new body style. Then it really boils down to personal choice.Why would you recommend a base model M2 Air over the base model M1 Air? Seems like a waste of $200.
M1 Air + 512 GB SSD or 16 GB RAM for the same price as the M2. Way better value.
Life has always been about tradeoffs.Why is there always a catch to an apple product I really want? This is a deal breaker for me.
Why is there always a catch to an apple product I really want? This is a deal breaker for me.
Is it material if the rest of the SOC improvements result in better overall performance for users in this category? Meaning, the actual target audience for an Air?Maybe I should've assumed it would be significantly worse or even just as good?
No one is suing Apple for deceptive marketing practices here (yet). It's just a reasonable assumption that a newer model would be at least as good as the previous model in all material aspects. I'd say the performance of the SSD is a "material aspect".
I guess the judge would have to make that ruling.
If you are poor, then buying a brand new laptop shouldn't be a priority. Lower priced products perform less than higher priced products from same company. Nothings changed in hundreds of years, so no it's not getting screwed.Lol cause screw them poor people right? What is wrong with you
Don’t buy a transparent case then. And just wipe the case.After a while, visible dust gets on the Mac.
What is surprising me is how many people here are defending Apple. This was a bad decision at best and some shady/dodgy activity at worst.
Can’t you upgrade them to 8gb and put in an SSD? These are crappy HP’a you’re taking about, SSD upgrade alone with cloned HDD onto it is a fantastic upgrade for older PCs and notebooksWhere I work they gave me a 600€ budget to buy 2 laptops, years ago, best I could find were two plastic HP laptops, i3 CPU, 500GB spinning hard drive and 4GB of RAM, they were atrocious from the beginning, but they found them an improvement since they had been using Pentium laptops before; now, they come to me and ask "Can't you make them faster?", they take 10 minutes to boot, like two to three minutes to launch Word or Excel, it's a torture, I told my boss I refuse to use them and the only way to have them run faster is either a lightweight Linux distro or a new computer.
Different architecture and implementation. Plus it is not significantly faster looking at real benchmarks, plus the high failure rate. There's a reason all ssd manufacturers higher storage tiers run faster than their lower ones. Unified memory architecture can't just use off the shelf modules from an m.2 ssd.It adds insult to injury
when you’re already overpaying for hardware
and then Apple makes you cough up the cost of a high-end 2tb SSD ($300)
just so you can have a faster 512gb of storage.
You can get a faster 512gb SSD for $40 on Amazon.
$40
vs $300
I can separate things with line breaks too!!
It’s an Apple laptop, not a bargain bin clearance Lenovo.
And make sure to contact support constantly to make them pay.I have a beefy NAS plus plenty of cloud storage so I don’t need much SSD space… or so I thought. I got a shipping notification for my 16/256 M2 today, after the embargo on this news was lifted. Thanks a lot Apple.
I’ve ordered a 16/512 and will be returning the first. So now Apple is eating the round trip shipping costs plus incidentals for their malfeasance. I’m debating ordering another, opening it and returning it just to stick it to them.
Everything I mentioned, except the RAM limit being higher, applies to the base model as well.We’re talking about the Base model m2 vs base model m1.
If system responsiveness suffers on the base m2 model (as the system consumes more ram and needs to switch to slower ssd swap memory vs m1) , to me, worse responsiveness negates everything else that’s new on the base m2 model.
Stuff like this only hurts your fellow customers. Us. You do realize that companies pass cost onto us, yes? And they change generous return policies because of abuse, yes?I have a beefy NAS plus plenty of cloud storage so I don’t need much SSD space… or so I thought. I got a shipping notification for my 16/256 M2 today, after the embargo on this news was lifted. Thanks a lot Apple.
I’ve ordered a 16/512 and will be returning the first. So now Apple is eating the round trip shipping costs plus incidentals for their malfeasance. I’m debating ordering another, opening it and returning it just to stick it to them.
Now I am confused. SLC>MLC>TLC>QLC is the rank of writing endurance for flash technology. and 256GB or so size would be expensive for MLC, let alone SLC. I'd guess Apple uses TLC either for 128GB or for 256GB.Well, one IC chip can have 128GB, 256GB, 512GB or 1TB from what apple is using. So a 2x128GB configuration vs a 1x256GB configuration have the same wear leveling performance, since both have 256GB of space to play around distributing the write cells.
It’s not material if people don’t care. And that’s perfectly fine.Is it material if the rest of the SOC improvements result in better overall performance for users in this category? Meaning, the actual target audience for an Air?
Well, yes, judging from their thickness I think they are user upgradable, but I won't do it for free in my own free time (because that's what they expect), it's not like they're friends or family.Can’t you upgrade them to 8gb and put in an SSD? These are crappy HP’a you’re taking about, SSD upgrade alone with cloned HDD onto it is a fantastic upgrade for older PCs and notebooks
Given that The ssd in the base m1 is faster than the ssd in the base m2, when both base systems need to use swap memory, the base m1 will perform better from a responsiveness standpoint.Everything I mentioned, except the RAM limit being higher, applies to the base model as well.
That's the thing, how much does it affect system responsiveness when using the base model Air like a base model Air, as opposed to using it like a 14" MBP.
I agree its an issue, but how much the user will notice it depends on what they are doing on a base computer.Given that The ssd in the base m1 is faster than the ssd in the base m2, when both base systems need to use swap memory, the base m1 will perform better from a responsiveness standpoint point.
My expectation would be for m2 to be no worse than the base m1. But if there’s a performance regression due to Apple’s choice of a slower ssd, that’s a problem.