The ol' Georgia Peach's antics wouldn't go over in today's game. But what do I know? I still think Pete deserves to be in the HOF.Cube54 said:I vote we all sharpin' up our Ty Cobb Spikes and watch Detroit stomp on the bases as they run to victory
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maybe the tigers pitchers should start ironing their bills as well?http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60369&stc=1&d=1161486820
maybe the tigers pitchers should start ironing their bills as well?
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I think the dweeby, Little League looking legs did most the work.MacsomJRR said:maybe the tigers pitchers should start ironing their bills as well?
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Maybe the Tigers just aren't all they're cracked up to be. They were the wildcard team in the AL, and if you look at the regular season statistics, they're not supposed to be in the world series any more than the Cardinals are. At first, I thought the Cards were going to get owned by the Tigers, I was expecting a repeat of our performance against the Red Sox 2 years ago. But tonight, we did the ass kicking and I truly believe we have a shot. Hell, we beat the Mets, and they had the best record this season.
It'd serve FOX, Sports Illustrated and a majority of sports writers and baseball know-it-alls right if the Cards went back to St. Louis at 2-0. Entertaining the thought is pleasant enough.MacNut said:
Still early on, but I'd call tonight a must win for Detroit. If they can't get it done with the ol' man Rogers on the mound vs. an ex-Tiger Weaver at home, it will make for a pretty deep hole to climb out of for Detroit.
The problem tho is from a viewers standpoint not anywhere near Detroit or St Louis that there isn't any drama. Last night was considered a blowout and if nothing big happens tonight viewer ship on the east and west coasts will be nonexistent.
True, in TV language, the biggest marketing regions for Series teams would be East and West Coast, but there's still plenty of enthusiasm for a Detroit/STL Series from the heartland viewers and baseball fans, in general. It's been 38 years since these two teams have squared off in the WS. '34 was STL, '68 went to Detroit, so they're 1-1 coming in to this Series. There's enough successful baseball history with both franchises to merit an audience.
The Series welcomes back Detroit after a 22 year drought. STL hasn't won it all in 24 years, so I think the majority of MLB fans who don't reside in CA, NY or MA enjoy the change, and will find a way to make it interesting enough.
The Series welcomes back Detroit after a 22 year drought. STL hasn't won it all in 24 years, so I think the majority of MLB fans who don't reside in CA, NY or MA enjoy the change, and will find a way to make it interesting enough.
People will watch if there's interest in the game. If you think about it there hasn't really been much excitement. Tigers/Yankees was good the first few games. A's/Twins had no juice at all. Tigers/A's was a one sided sweep. Mets/Dogders was the same. Padres/St Louis didn't have much either. The only series that picked up in the middle was Mets/Cards. If tonight isn't a close game I don't see much interest being shown for the rest of the series. On paper this should be a great series but the teams have to show up and make it exciting.
I kinda thought this series would get more interest than most....you have the 2 teams with the worst regular season records that made it to the playoffs battling it out in the world series. Neither the Cardinals or Detroit should even have gotten this far if you look at regular season stats. But performance by both teams has been nothing short of amazing, and if that doesn't get people interested, than I don't know what will.
Here-say can be misleading. The facts are, the 1968 Series STL vs. Tigers drew a 57 Share on NBC with a 22.8 Rating. The 2001 Series NYY vs. Arizona drew a 25 Share on FOX with a 15.7 Rating. The 2000 Subway Series NYY vs. NYM was a TV Ratings disaster at 12.4 Rating. So much for big ratings and NYC.MacNut said:
In 1968 how many channels were there? There was no cable or sports networks. Also if you look at the ratings pre 1994 you will see that they are a lot higher then after the strike. The fact is that the casual fan wants to see big named teams and players they know. Nobody would watch a Devil Rays/Rockies World series, not to say that it would happen but there is no mass appeal.
Fox TV Faces Second Year of Low World Series Ratings (Update1)
By Leon Lazaroff
Oct. 20 (Bloomberg) -- News Corp.'s Fox Television faces a second year of record low ratings for baseball's World Series championship after last night's victory by the St. Louis Cardinals set up a contest with the Detroit Tigers.
The matchup may be a repeat of last year when games between the Chicago White Sox and Houston Astros produced the lowest ratings ever for the World Series, said Brad Adgate, research director at Horizon Media Inc. Neither Detroit nor St. Louis is in the top 10 U.S. markets, and neither is likely to capture national attention, he said.
Fox, in the final year of a six-year $2.5 billion contract to broadcast baseball, may be able to salvage some ratings gains if the best-of-seven series extends beyond five games, Adgate said. Networks prefer a longer series because they can charge more for commercials, especially in the sixth or seventh game when interest is highest. Fox received an average $375,000 for a 30-second commercial last year, 7 percent higher than last year.
``Fox has to hope that this series goes to seven because on the face of it, this match-up doesn't bode well for them, said Adgate. ``The St. Louis fans are great, the problem is they aren't spread around the country.''
St. Louis beat the New York Mets to advance to the World Series against Detroit, which beat the Oakland A's. Detroit is the nation's 11th largest media market and St Louis is No. 21, according to Nielsen Media Research. New York is the largest.
`Number of Games'
Fox Sports President Ed Goren said he's most concerned that Major League Baseball's championship is a long one.
``The dream match up is not about the teams but the number of games,'' Goren said in an interview before St. Louis won. ``The key is a long running competitive series.'' The World Series victor needs four games to win.
``This year, Fox is saddled with two teams without a national or international following,'' Ganis said. ``The Super Bowl is strong regardless of which teams are in it.''
Even with Chicago, the country's third largest market, in last year's World Series, viewers were 30 percent fewer than in 2004 when the Boston Red Sox beat St. Louis, according to Nielsen. This year's contest, Adgate said, lacks a dramatic theme.
Last year's World Series attracted an average 11.1 percent of the 110.2 million U.S. households with televisions, said Nielsen.
Prior to the 2005 championship, the lowest ever ratings for the World Series was an 11.9 Nielsen measurement for the Anaheim Angels victory over the San Francisco Giants in 2002.
In July, Major League Baseball extended the contract through 2013.
By Leon Lazaroff
Oct. 20 (Bloomberg) -- News Corp.'s Fox Television faces a second year of record low ratings for baseball's World Series championship after last night's victory by the St. Louis Cardinals set up a contest with the Detroit Tigers.
The matchup may be a repeat of last year when games between the Chicago White Sox and Houston Astros produced the lowest ratings ever for the World Series, said Brad Adgate, research director at Horizon Media Inc. Neither Detroit nor St. Louis is in the top 10 U.S. markets, and neither is likely to capture national attention, he said.
Fox, in the final year of a six-year $2.5 billion contract to broadcast baseball, may be able to salvage some ratings gains if the best-of-seven series extends beyond five games, Adgate said. Networks prefer a longer series because they can charge more for commercials, especially in the sixth or seventh game when interest is highest. Fox received an average $375,000 for a 30-second commercial last year, 7 percent higher than last year.
``Fox has to hope that this series goes to seven because on the face of it, this match-up doesn't bode well for them, said Adgate. ``The St. Louis fans are great, the problem is they aren't spread around the country.''
St. Louis beat the New York Mets to advance to the World Series against Detroit, which beat the Oakland A's. Detroit is the nation's 11th largest media market and St Louis is No. 21, according to Nielsen Media Research. New York is the largest.
`Number of Games'
Fox Sports President Ed Goren said he's most concerned that Major League Baseball's championship is a long one.
``The dream match up is not about the teams but the number of games,'' Goren said in an interview before St. Louis won. ``The key is a long running competitive series.'' The World Series victor needs four games to win.
``This year, Fox is saddled with two teams without a national or international following,'' Ganis said. ``The Super Bowl is strong regardless of which teams are in it.''
Even with Chicago, the country's third largest market, in last year's World Series, viewers were 30 percent fewer than in 2004 when the Boston Red Sox beat St. Louis, according to Nielsen. This year's contest, Adgate said, lacks a dramatic theme.
Last year's World Series attracted an average 11.1 percent of the 110.2 million U.S. households with televisions, said Nielsen.
Prior to the 2005 championship, the lowest ever ratings for the World Series was an 11.9 Nielsen measurement for the Anaheim Angels victory over the San Francisco Giants in 2002.
In July, Major League Baseball extended the contract through 2013.
This line is the only interesting, hopeful one. Maybe it's FOX coverage. Maybe they need to get out of the way and find something else to make for boring coverage. I wonder what the radio and real time computer ratings show for Series listeners?MacNut said:
McCarver and Buck? Yuk. Plus their recent firing racist commentator Lyons. Their poor coverage and commentary have to figure in on poor viewing ratings.
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Maybe they would have more success getting people to watch if they didn't insist on hiring such irritatingly dull play-by-play announcers. I don't know how Joe Buck managed to maintain the same, detached monotone from the first pitch of game one to the last out of game seven of the NLCS. Sounding so consistently bored takes real talent, I guess.